# my cable vs. dish/direct/etc thread. **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [January 28, 2009, 11:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-cable-vs-dish-direct-etc-thread/62053 "2009-01-28T11:23:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![jabbu](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jabbu/32/7446_2.png) [@jabbu](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jabbu)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 9:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-cable-vs-dish-direct-etc-thread/62053/21 "2009-01-29T21:29:43Z")
Keep in mind customer service and service call fees/. ---
**Author:** ![Justin](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/justin/32/7459_2.png) [@Justin](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Justin)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 8:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-cable-vs-dish-direct-etc-thread/62053/22 "2009-01-30T20:11:13Z")
> [@theblue](#): > > funny you say that… all of my requirements are met with timewarner for under $60/mo. (my total TW bill is $114 w/ taxes and roadrunner incl.) and the HD image is good… after everything it looks like I’m forced to stay with them… I don’t want to pay more just to get more things that I don’t care about. TW HD is garbage, and they have so few HD channels it’s a joke. ---
**Author:** ![PureXTC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/purextc/32/5223_2.png) [@PureXTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PureXTC)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2009, 12:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-cable-vs-dish-direct-etc-thread/62053/23 "2009-01-31T00:02:33Z")
I have all of that plus road runner and cable in 2 rooms for $100. You should be able to swing that. ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2009, 6:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-cable-vs-dish-direct-etc-thread/62053/24 "2009-01-31T06:21:43Z")
> [@Justin](#): > > TW HD is garbage, and they have so few HD channels it’s a joke. no it’s not… and they have all the major channels… I don’t really care about “MTV reality station 5” and all the others that fluff up the numbers for others ---
**Author:** ![somedude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@somedude](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/somedude)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2009, 8:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-cable-vs-dish-direct-etc-thread/62053/25 "2009-01-31T08:22:00Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > Source? Dish has added a bunch of HD stuff and their lineup is pretty similar to DirecTV now. Each has some HD the other doesn’t, the ones I’d like Dish to get that DirecTV has would be Spike, FX and Speed. Quality wise I can’t see a difference between my neighbors DirecTV and my Dish Network, though both look much better than Time Warner. > > As far as HD DVR hardware goes Dish \> \*. I was all ready to jump to Fios until I saw how their DVR was compared to Dish. I’d rank them Dish \> DirecTV \> Fios \> \* \> Time Warner. Honestly, TW should be sued for even using the name DVR on that pile of shit hardware and pile of shit user interface they call a DVR. Force them to call it DVR-lite or DVR-shit or something. when choosing between dish and DTV the packages are comparable for the most part, basically just choose which programing package fits your needs best. Both dish and DTV’s HD does look better than TW. And the dish DVR is a bit better from what I hear than the DTV but hopefully that will change soon with the launch of our tivo units next month. edit: I work for DTV so if anyone decides to go with them shoot me a PM and I will pull your appointment forward. ---
**Author:** ![jabbu](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jabbu/32/7446_2.png) [@jabbu](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jabbu)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2009, 9:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-cable-vs-dish-direct-etc-thread/62053/26 "2009-01-31T09:16:46Z")
> [@Justin](#): > > TW HD is garbage, and they have so few HD channels it’s a joke. Their HD is more compressed, but you really only see that on certain fast scenes. I didn’t realize 60 was “few” ---
**Author:** ![Justin](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/justin/32/7459_2.png) [@Justin](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Justin)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2009, 12:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-cable-vs-dish-direct-etc-thread/62053/27 "2009-01-31T12:20:04Z")
> [@jabbu](#): > > Their HD is more compressed, but you really only see that on certain fast scenes. > > I didn’t realize 60 was “few” Compared to 170 for the same price? DirecTV has better quality and more station for the same price. ---
**Author:** ![jabbu](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jabbu/32/7446_2.png) [@jabbu](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jabbu)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2009, 12:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-cable-vs-dish-direct-etc-thread/62053/28 "2009-01-31T12:52:07Z")
Would it be the same price? I prefer stations i actually watch, which isn’t 60 and isn’t near 170… Also i don’t go for overall # or overall monthly rates… The big picture is service, quality and total cost yearly, which may include service calls. Also I like to speak to a person within the US and speaking to someone in cheektowaga is a huge bonus. ---
**Author:** ![Carbonfiberhooded](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/carbonfiberhooded/32/7608_2.png) [@Carbonfiberhooded](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carbonfiberhooded)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2009, 9:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-cable-vs-dish-direct-etc-thread/62053/29 "2009-01-31T21:13:52Z")
With Dish, you call Intertech which is in Lockport, so your point is what exactly??? And back before I worked for Dish, I had TW. I have never had so many problems with tv and internet especially. The US call centers would always blame it on a router I didn’t have. Then when they did send a tech, the guy replaced a splitter and left. It took them two days to get a guy back out. The second guy actually fixed the problem and was there for more then 10 minutes. It was the POS modem TW gave me. And one other thing, with Dish or DTV you get new receivers, not some used and reused modem or receiver that was just retrieved from someone’s house the day before. And yes this does happen. I work with many former Comtec and 5 West techs that say that its a everyday thing to reuse equipment. It doesn’t get tested, if its dusty they wipe it off and give you a new remote. Thats some service right there!!! ---
**Author:** ![evane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6bbea6/32.png) [@evane](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/evane)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2009, 9:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-cable-vs-dish-direct-etc-thread/62053/30 "2009-01-31T21:37:08Z")
> [@Carbonfiberhooded](#): > > With Dish, you call Intertech which is in Lockport, so your point is what exactly??? > > And back before I worked for Dish, I had TW. I have never had so many problems with tv and internet especially. The US call centers would always blame it on a router I didn’t have. Then when they did send a tech, the guy replaced a splitter and left. > > It took them two days to get a guy back out. The second guy actually fixed the problem and was there for more then 10 minutes. It was the POS modem TW gave me. > > And one other thing, with Dish or DTV you get new receivers, not some used and reused modem or receiver that was just retrieved from someone’s house the day before. And yes this does happen. I work with many former Comtec and 5 West techs that say that its a everyday thing to reuse equipment. > > It doesn’t get tested, if its dusty they wipe it off and give you a new remote. Thats some service right there!!! Amen… and they do freaking shit install work. I say Dish Network ftw mostly because I think there DVR hardware just owns… the VIP722K looks to just be more goodness [http://www.dishuser.org/722k.php](http://www.dishuser.org/722k.php) ---
**Author:** ![somedude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@somedude](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/somedude)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2009, 10:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-cable-vs-dish-direct-etc-thread/62053/31 "2009-01-31T22:03:52Z")
> [@Carbonfiberhooded](#): > > With Dish, you call Intertech which is in Lockport, so your point is what exactly??? > > And back before I worked for Dish, I had TW. I have never had so many problems with tv and internet especially. The US call centers would always blame it on a router I didn’t have. Then when they did send a tech, the guy replaced a splitter and left. > > It took them two days to get a guy back out. The second guy actually fixed the problem and was there for more then 10 minutes. It was the POS modem TW gave me. > > And one other thing, with Dish or DTV you get new receivers, not some used and reused modem or receiver that was just retrieved from someone’s house the day before. And yes this does happen. I work with many former Comtec and 5 West techs that say that its a everyday thing to reuse equipment. > > It doesn’t get tested, if its dusty they wipe it off and give you a new remote. Thats some service right there!!! that is not entirely accurate. DTV refurbishes some of their recievers. MOST of the equipment is new but some of it does go back to get bench tested in CA then shipped back to us to install. It doesn’t go straight from one house to another though like TW does. ---
**Author:** ![jabbu](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jabbu/32/7446_2.png) [@jabbu](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jabbu)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2009, 4:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-cable-vs-dish-direct-etc-thread/62053/32 "2009-02-01T04:25:17Z")
> [@Carbonfiberhooded](#): > > With Dish, you call Intertech which is in Lockport, so your point is what exactly??? Ok, and he has DTV, thats my point… Contractors do get mainly used equipment to do installs. The equipment does get tested. So TW sent a tech out twice for free and the problem was fixed. Doesn’t sound that bad to me. ---
**Author:** ![Carbonfiberhooded](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/carbonfiberhooded/32/7608_2.png) [@Carbonfiberhooded](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carbonfiberhooded)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2009, 7:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-cable-vs-dish-direct-etc-thread/62053/33 "2009-02-01T07:31:54Z")
> [@evane](#): > > Amen… and they do freaking shit install work. > > I say Dish Network ftw mostly because I think there DVR hardware just owns… the VIP722K looks to just be more goodness [http://www.dishuser.org/722k.php](http://www.dishuser.org/722k.php) Blah, just a cheaper version of the 722. It doesn’t come with an OTA tuner unless you order it seperate. The receiver you should be looking forward to is the 922. Built in slingbox!! ---
**Author:** ![evane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6bbea6/32.png) [@evane](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/evane)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2009, 6:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-cable-vs-dish-direct-etc-thread/62053/34 "2009-02-01T18:01:51Z")
> [@Carbonfiberhooded](#): > > Blah, just a cheaper version of the 722. It doesn’t come with an OTA tuner unless you order it seperate. > > The receiver you should be looking forward to is the 922. Built in slingbox!! I was just ogling the 2 ota tuners with the add on and being able to use all 4 at once. Honestly if DirectTV could fix that major pitfall of the hr22 with the am21 I would have probably went with DirectTV being there DVR software seems to have advanced although the DirectTivo HD coming out soon makes the game really interesting. ---
**Author:** ![Adictd2b00st](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/adictd2b00st/32/7625_2.png) [@Adictd2b00st](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Adictd2b00st)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2009, 6:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-cable-vs-dish-direct-etc-thread/62053/35 "2009-02-01T18:12:51Z")
> [@jabbu](#): > > Keep in mind customer service and service call fees/. i hear this alot, how many times have you ever had to actually get someone to come out and look at something? we’ve never had someone out here other than the initial setup, ever. sounds like a marketing ploy really ---
**Author:** ![evane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6bbea6/32.png) [@evane](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/evane)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2009, 8:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-cable-vs-dish-direct-etc-thread/62053/36 "2009-02-01T20:20:01Z")
> [@evane](#): > > I was just ogling the 2 ota tuners with the add on and being able to use all 4 at once. Honestly if DirectTV could fix that major pitfall of the hr22 with the am21 I would have probably went with DirectTV being there DVR software seems to have advanced although the DirectTivo HD coming out soon makes the game really interesting. Just looked up the VIP 922 and hot damn that looks sweet. ---
**Author:** ![Justin](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/justin/32/7459_2.png) [@Justin](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Justin)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2009, 8:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-cable-vs-dish-direct-etc-thread/62053/37 "2009-02-02T08:02:37Z")
> [@jabbu](#): > > Contractors do get mainly used equipment to do installs. The equipment does get tested… TW dose not test almost any of the equipment. The contractors very often take it out of one house and install it in the next without any testing at all. Just a new remote. I had friends that worked there and some co-workers that used to work there. They all say the same thing. ---
**Author:** ![Carbonfiberhooded](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/carbonfiberhooded/32/7608_2.png) [@Carbonfiberhooded](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carbonfiberhooded)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2009, 8:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-cable-vs-dish-direct-etc-thread/62053/38 "2009-02-02T08:41:41Z")
> [@Justin](#): > > TW dose not test almost any of the equipment. The contractors very often take it out of one house and install it in the next without any testing at all. Just a new remote. I had friends that worked there and some co-workers that used to work there. They all say the same thing. Exactly my point. New customers get old, recycled equipment. That isn’t right. ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2009, 8:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-cable-vs-dish-direct-etc-thread/62053/39 "2009-02-02T08:43:46Z")
as a consumer I almost prefer used equipment… it’s been more tested than anything new out of a box. ---
**Author:** ![jabbu](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jabbu/32/7446_2.png) [@jabbu](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jabbu)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2009, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-cable-vs-dish-direct-etc-thread/62053/40 "2009-02-02T11:29:33Z")
> [@Justin](#): > > TW dose not test almost any of the equipment. The contractors very often take it out of one house and install it in the next without any testing at all. Just a new remote. I had friends that worked there and some co-workers that used to work there. They all say the same thing. Uhm no… Equipment removed from an account has to be inventoried before it can be put into a different account. That requires it to be scanned in at a computer. There are ways around this, however it is not policy and if your “friends” were doing this they were part of the reason TW reissues used “bad” equipment. Most HD stuff is new, a lot of the regular digital boxes are used, actually i have yet to see a new regular digital in a loooooong time. When service calls are free, who cares if the box is used. One call should resolve any “bad” box, and hopefully the tech tags the bad box so it is properly handled and not put back into the field. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-cable-vs-dish-direct-etc-thread/62053.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-cable-vs-dish-direct-etc-thread/62053.md?page=3)