# My other soft spot : the 4AGE

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-other-soft-spot-the-4age/8842>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [March 3, 2006, 9:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-other-soft-spot-the-4age/8842 "2006-03-03T09:52:24Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 18\
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**Author:** ![Daddie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/daddie/32/7621_2.png) [@Daddie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Daddie)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2006, 9:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-other-soft-spot-the-4age/8842/1 "2006-03-03T09:52:24Z")

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> 12:1 Weisecos bored .040 over on a 4AGE Toyota Motor  
> 5 angle valve job  
> Toda Cams  
> Toda Camshafts  
> Weber Side Drafts tuned for 170hp  
> HKS HG  
> DSG oil pan  
> Toda Cam gears  
> Toda valve springs…
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> New everything, pumps, gaskets, hot tanked (of course)  
> Group A replica (for LHD) headers

Mmmmmmmm :headbang:

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**Author:** ![Daddie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/daddie/32/7621_2.png) [@Daddie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Daddie)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2006, 9:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-other-soft-spot-the-4age/8842/2 "2006-03-03T09:53:57Z")

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More pics :

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**Author:** ![focusinprogress](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/focusinprogress/32/7227_2.png) [@focusinprogress](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/focusinprogress)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2006, 9:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-other-soft-spot-the-4age/8842/3 "2006-03-03T09:55:01Z")

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thats pretty hot. only 170hp though??

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**Author:** ![TrueBlue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/trueblue/32/7245_2.png) [@TrueBlue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TrueBlue)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2006, 10:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-other-soft-spot-the-4age/8842/4 "2006-03-03T10:11:00Z")

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side draft carbs and exhaust wraps + exposed cam gears = nice! good looking mill.

why does he mention toda cams and toda camshafts? cam sprockets?

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**Author:** ![raven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9fc348/32.png) [@raven](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/raven)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2006, 11:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-other-soft-spot-the-4age/8842/5 "2006-03-03T11:04:29Z")

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Only 4 valves per cylinder?

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**Author:** ![MiniSRT4](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/minisrt4/32/7225_2.png) [@MiniSRT4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MiniSRT4)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2006, 11:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-other-soft-spot-the-4age/8842/6 "2006-03-03T11:46:49Z")

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> [@raven](#):
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> Only 4 valves per cylinder?

ummmm…how many is it supposed to have :gotme:

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**Author:** ![DrDoS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ccd318/32.png) [@DrDoS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DrDoS)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2006, 12:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-other-soft-spot-the-4age/8842/7 "2006-03-03T12:27:02Z")

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> [@MiniSRT4](#):
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> ummmm…how many is it supposed to have :gotme:

1. i belive one of them have 5 i forgot which one tough.

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**Author:** ![Daddie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/daddie/32/7621_2.png) [@Daddie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Daddie)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2006, 12:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-other-soft-spot-the-4age/8842/8 "2006-03-03T12:43:54Z")

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> [@DrDoS](#):
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> 1. i belive one of them have 5 i forgot which one tough.

Not the 4AGE.

16v 1.6L

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**Author:** ![raven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9fc348/32.png) [@raven](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/raven)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2006, 12:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-other-soft-spot-the-4age/8842/9 "2006-03-03T12:48:49Z")

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![http://www.billzilla.org/4AG-5-valve.jpg](http://www.billzilla.org/4AG-5-valve.jpg)

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**Author:** ![raven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9fc348/32.png) [@raven](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/raven)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2006, 12:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-other-soft-spot-the-4age/8842/10 "2006-03-03T12:50:35Z")

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Why not 😃

![http://img.pconline.com.cn/images/images/upload/autobbs/2005/5/15/1/3/223/93/113/33/1116143972641885.jpg](http://img.pconline.com.cn/images/images/upload/autobbs/2005/5/15/1/3/223/93/113/33/1116143972641885.jpg)

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**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2006, 12:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-other-soft-spot-the-4age/8842/11 "2006-03-03T12:52:52Z")

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thats alot of money to put into a 170hp motor, when a k20a would have been just as good stock… have to see a dyno and compare area/torqure curves…

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**Author:** ![raven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9fc348/32.png) [@raven](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/raven)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2006, 12:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-other-soft-spot-the-4age/8842/12 "2006-03-03T12:55:41Z")

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These motors came out way before K anything. . . I think these were out from early eighties to the late 90’s with peaking out at 170ps (167hp?) For 1.6L its nice, but peaky. Of course a K is better with continuously variating doohickies 😛

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**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2006, 12:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-other-soft-spot-the-4age/8842/13 "2006-03-03T12:58:52Z")

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> [@raven](#):
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> These motors came out way before K anything. . . I think these were out from early eighties to the late 90’s with peaking out at 170ps (167hp?) For 1.6L its nice, but peaky. Of course a K is better with continuously variating doohickies 😛

yeah, i dig that, for a purist, or possibly for specific race series, i guess that justifies a buildup of this motor, but it seems like a waste to build up antiquated technology… but, that’s just me. I don’t have the classic car blood in me…

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**Author:** ![Coldaccord](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/coldaccord/32/7272_2.png) [@Coldaccord](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Coldaccord)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2006, 2:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-other-soft-spot-the-4age/8842/14 "2006-03-03T14:21:06Z")

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put it in the panda!

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**Author:** ![Supraman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/supraman/32/7307_2.png) [@Supraman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Supraman)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2006, 3:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-other-soft-spot-the-4age/8842/15 "2006-03-03T15:39:31Z")

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whos motor and whats it going in?

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**Author:** ![91MR2](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/91mr2/32/7217_2.png) [@91MR2](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/91MR2)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2006, 5:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-other-soft-spot-the-4age/8842/16 "2006-03-03T17:06:44Z")

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Such a fantastic motor there. Man, I miss the old first gens…

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**Author:** ![amspimpwagon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/amspimpwagon/32/7339_2.png) [@amspimpwagon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/amspimpwagon)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2006, 5:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-other-soft-spot-the-4age/8842/17 "2006-03-03T17:29:02Z")

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Whos motor, whats it going in

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**Author:** ![Supraman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/supraman/32/7307_2.png) [@Supraman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Supraman)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2006, 11:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-other-soft-spot-the-4age/8842/18 "2006-03-03T23:02:54Z")

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> [@91MR2](#):
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> Such a fantastic motor there. Man, I miss the old first gens…

i miss my old car ☹

if i can find another one around pref 89s/c i am buying it.
