# my poormans type r install **URL:** \ **Category:** Builds\ **Created:** [September 21, 2006, 9:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-poormans-type-r-install/17841 "2006-09-21T21:41:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![ripperbone](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ripperbone/32/7395_2.png) [@ripperbone](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ripperbone)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2006, 12:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-poormans-type-r-install/17841/21 "2006-09-22T12:02:52Z")
ok the b16 head and type R head are the same except the type r head has better valves and springs, valves are the same size. it does flow better than a gsr head, . yes i have work done to the head. it has been P&P and milled, and does have type R valves and springs, type R cams. i need a type R manifold & TB to get the better flow, but that will come in time. I dont have any dyno numbers yet, I have to wire up the knock sensor, I dont have a plug and am getting one asap, since I used a civic harness its not wired for knock. it took 6 hours to drop the old motor and pull the tranny and install the new swap. and it took that long cause we used hand tools, I broke my airgun in the process of the swap ---
**Author:** ![Estorvito](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/estorvito/32/7234_2.png) [@Estorvito](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Estorvito)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2006, 12:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-poormans-type-r-install/17841/22 "2006-09-22T12:05:09Z")
> [@ripperbone](#): > > ok the b16 head and type R head are the same except the type r head has better valves and springs, valves are the same size. it does flow better than a gsr head, . yes i have work done to the head. it has been P&P and milled, and does have type R valves and springs, type R cams. i need a type R manifold & TB to get the better flow, but that will come in time. I dont have any dyno numbers yet, I have to wire up the knock sensor, I dont have a plug and am getting one asap, since I used a civic harness its not wired for knock. what do you need Ken?.. The KNock sensor itself.? I have one if you need it. Call me. ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2006, 12:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-poormans-type-r-install/17841/23 "2006-09-22T12:16:23Z")
> [@ripperbone](#): > > I dont have a plug and am getting one asap, since I used a civic harness its not wired for knock. thanks for clarifying the flow sounds awesome ---
**Author:** ![Slopoke](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slopoke/32/7248_2.png) [@Slopoke](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Slopoke)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2006, 1:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-poormans-type-r-install/17841/24 "2006-09-22T13:46:39Z")
nice very nice, hope to see it at mighty before seasons up, going to nyirp on the 29th? maybe we can get a run in? ---
**Author:** ![Estorvito](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/estorvito/32/7234_2.png) [@Estorvito](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Estorvito)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2006, 1:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-poormans-type-r-install/17841/25 "2006-09-22T13:53:09Z")
> [@Slopoke](#): > > nice very nice, hope to see it at mighty before seasons up, going to nyirp on the 29th? maybe we can get a run in? he dont live in Buffalo. Hes from Colorado. lmao… Thats cool though. 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Daddie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/daddie/32/7621_2.png) [@Daddie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Daddie)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2006, 2:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-poormans-type-r-install/17841/26 "2006-09-22T14:57:35Z")
Wait - do you think you’ll be ok NA with the 9.1:1 pistons and Type R cams? ugh, i see shitty driveability… ---
**Author:** ![ripperbone](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ripperbone/32/7395_2.png) [@ripperbone](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ripperbone)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2006, 4:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-poormans-type-r-install/17841/27 "2006-09-22T16:33:24Z")
i should be ok, I did the 9.1:1 pistons for boost and when that time comes I am pulling the type r cams. I heard they suck for boost. i wanted to see how good the cams are and what all the hype is, i have only driven it around the block and it threw the check engine for knock sensor. so now it is sitting. I am waiting on a buddy to show up with a plug. I dont want to drive it to much in limp mode. so I rather it sit and wait, should have it done sometime this weekend. and if driveablity sucks I am pulling cams out and putting back in b16 cams. ---
**Author:** ![Zer0DazE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zer0daze/32/7624_2.png) [@Zer0DazE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zer0DazE)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2006, 5:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-poormans-type-r-install/17841/28 "2006-09-22T17:41:13Z")
people that tell you over lap is bad for boosted engines are idiots. toda and i have both posted on here, and UBRF showing how well it does work. if you dont believe us, pop over to evans tunings site and see what he has to say about it. ---
**Author:** ![dirtye30](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dirtye30/32/7333_2.png) [@dirtye30](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dirtye30)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2006, 12:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-poormans-type-r-install/17841/29 "2006-09-23T12:28:39Z")
am i the only idiot that came in here looking for a crappy install of a subwoofer? ---
**Author:** ![Estorvito](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/estorvito/32/7234_2.png) [@Estorvito](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Estorvito)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2006, 2:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-poormans-type-r-install/17841/30 "2006-09-23T14:30:09Z")
> [@dirtye30](#): > > am i the only idiot that came in here looking for a crappy install of a subwoofer? Lmao… You suck… jk. ---
**Author:** ![ripperbone](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ripperbone/32/7395_2.png) [@ripperbone](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ripperbone)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2006, 1:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-poormans-type-r-install/17841/31 "2006-09-24T01:43:29Z")
> [@dirtye30](#): > > am i the only idiot that came in here looking for a crappy install of a subwoofer? lol I dont do crappy installs of subwoofers ---
**Author:** ![blk\_hatch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/839c29/32.png) [@blk\_hatch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/blk_hatch)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2006, 2:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-poormans-type-r-install/17841/32 "2006-09-27T14:17:03Z")
zer0daze is totally right… a longtime popular notion with FI honda’s was that more cam was real bad… then full race and jeff evans took a very popular setup and made something like 50 wheel hp by a simple cam change and tuning using a stage three all motor cam equivalent vs. a stock type r cam, then i believe they tried skunk2’s “turbo cams”… now full race makes their own turbo cam that is very agressive in specs when compared to what was thought to be the best turbo cams on the market. and with the right tuning of course (ala jeff evans) anyone dig up that thread? i don’t know if im 100% accurate i read it a long time ago but it was fucking sweet…plus the car that motor is in is insane. he daily’s a 700++ whp civic coupe that is beat looking… it redefines sleeper. plus on a side note jeff evans gf drives a hatch with a built K-series turbo… she’s got to be so hott. ---
**Author:** ![ripperbone](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ripperbone/32/7395_2.png) [@ripperbone](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ripperbone)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2006, 6:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-poormans-type-r-install/17841/33 "2006-10-03T18:25:00Z")
damn i have to check that out, sounds like a beast [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-poormans-type-r-install/17841.md?page=1)