# My S13 Winterizing Build **URL:** \ **Category:** SON240sx Automotive\ **Created:** [October 10, 2008, 8:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-s13-winterizing-build/119092 "2008-10-10T20:20:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![logik23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/logik23/32/5548_2.png) [@logik23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/logik23)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2008, 8:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-s13-winterizing-build/119092/1 "2008-10-10T20:20:18Z")
Ok, this winter will kick some ass! I have a looooong list of shit to do: -Fix small amount of rust left -Change all fuel and brake lines -Install KA-T!!! -Install rear Z32 brakes -Put in non-HICAS subframe -Have alot of shit powder coated under the car This is what I have so far: GTi-R T28 China Manifold Megan Flex Downpipe China Turbo Elbow 550cc Injectors Blitz LM Intake Walbro 255lph Fuel Pump Precision FMIC Random Piping Bits HKS SQV BOV Crazy Painted Valve Cover For 5000whp China Test Pipe Dart Izumi Exhaust And maybe more, who the hell knows… So what is this valve cover you ask? What if I told you it was sparkly blue, pink and zebra print? You would say I was gay and lame? I would think so to, but it’s quite the opposite. ![http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v731/logik23/Jeep036.jpg](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v731/logik23/Jeep036.jpg) ![http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v731/logik23/Jeep039.jpg](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v731/logik23/Jeep039.jpg) ![http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v731/logik23/Jeep040.jpg](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v731/logik23/Jeep040.jpg) ![http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v731/logik23/Jeep038.jpg](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v731/logik23/Jeep038.jpg) I know, it’s awesome. Anyways, I will update this thread when I start tearing into the car in the very near future… ---
**Author:** ![sidewayz240](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e99b99/32.png) [@sidewayz240](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sidewayz240)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2008, 8:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-s13-winterizing-build/119092/2 "2008-10-10T20:58:42Z")
Right on, keep us posted on the progress. Power goal? PSI? The guy that did your valve cover does sick work, I was contemplating buying one of his other ones. ---
**Author:** ![logik23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/logik23/32/5548_2.png) [@logik23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/logik23)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2008, 9:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-s13-winterizing-build/119092/3 "2008-10-10T21:14:44Z")
Well the styles are sick, but the quality of work is so-so. There’s a lot of paint drip and he didn’t tape off properly, but whatevr, won’t be seen that much. I’m looking for 1 bar on the turbo, so maybe like 250-300whp, I guess. It’s my first turbo so ganna see what happens, I’ll probably blow something big in little time. lol ---
**Author:** ![Specialedition](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/specialedition/32/5714_2.png) [@Specialedition](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Specialedition)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2008, 10:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-s13-winterizing-build/119092/4 "2008-10-10T22:55:47Z")
the paint job is kinda what i have on my car, looks nice ---
**Author:** ![Martino](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/martino/32/5674_2.png) [@Martino](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Martino)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2008, 11:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-s13-winterizing-build/119092/5 "2008-10-10T23:46:44Z")
What kind of management are you using on the ka-t? Do not use only an SAFCII, and make sure you get a wideband. Also…the megan flew downpipe will hit the floor of your car…I guarentee it. Its made for an SR (kinda) and it can only be used on the KA if there’s some sort of adapter. Both Me and Ramesh (Silvia\_Drift) had this problem on our KA-T’s ---
**Author:** ![Gatecrasher3](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gatecrasher3/32/5617_2.png) [@Gatecrasher3](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gatecrasher3)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2008, 7:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-s13-winterizing-build/119092/6 "2008-10-11T07:26:14Z")
haha, if someone told me they were getting zebra on their valve cover i would have thought…wow gay. but that actually looks awesome. ---
**Author:** ![cailesj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c68b51/32.png) [@cailesj](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cailesj)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2008, 7:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-s13-winterizing-build/119092/7 "2008-10-11T07:51:49Z")
that valve cover is simply sick, haha i love the zebra print, i may have to steal that or lepord print for hte full valve cover lmao ---
**Author:** ![logik23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/logik23/32/5548_2.png) [@logik23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/logik23)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2008, 9:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-s13-winterizing-build/119092/8 "2008-10-11T09:23:54Z")
What kind of adapter are you talking about? As for management, I’m not getting any AFC. I’m not sure on what to do tho, I was thinking some kind of tune like Enthalpy or something of the sort that can be done locally on a dyno. I’m ganna get a wideband to when I decide on the gauges I want and where to put them cause I want everything to be flush mounted and stock looking. By the way, if anyone copies my valve cover, I’m going to go key your car. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![duckJAI](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/duckjai/32/5553_2.png) [@duckJAI](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/duckJAI)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2008, 10:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-s13-winterizing-build/119092/9 "2008-10-11T10:45:05Z")
my megan downpipe fit alright. I even put it up myself but I do admit, it was a REALLY tight fit. You have to make sure you bolt it from the elbow and then bolt it to your exhaust with the entire exhaust off the hangers. I tried it others way and I could never get the bolts to line up. Had to do it this way even on the SR. Megan fitment sucks ass. The elbow was also a megan one… ---
**Author:** ![Martino](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/martino/32/5674_2.png) [@Martino](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Martino)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2008, 11:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-s13-winterizing-build/119092/10 "2008-10-11T11:16:12Z")
Yea getting a tuned ecu is the one of the best routes. Samson, it fit better because you have an S14, the fitment for an S13 SUCKS BALLSSS. Mine was hitting the floor, and it was so tight i had a exhaust leak because the bolts wouldnt tighten up enough. ---
**Author:** ![logik23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/logik23/32/5548_2.png) [@logik23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/logik23)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2008, 11:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-s13-winterizing-build/119092/11 "2008-10-11T11:23:15Z")
I’ll get an exhaust shop to make an adapter or something then, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![Martino](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/martino/32/5674_2.png) [@Martino](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Martino)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2008, 11:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-s13-winterizing-build/119092/12 "2008-10-11T11:23:58Z")
Yea i was going to do that…than everything went downhill, so I didn’t lol ---
**Author:** ![logik23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/logik23/32/5548_2.png) [@logik23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/logik23)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2008, 11:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-s13-winterizing-build/119092/13 "2008-10-11T11:38:02Z")
lol ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2008, 1:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-s13-winterizing-build/119092/14 "2008-10-11T13:20:12Z")
just a mail order ECU wont cut it either IMHO… you need more control… maybe ECU + SAFC… i did that on an SR for a while and it was fast… didnt last too too long though. my megan dp with flex pipe rubbed on SR S13… i just went back to straight DP… if you mount it right you wont have any issues… you’ll be cracking elbows before you crack manifolds. ---
**Author:** ![duckJAI](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/duckjai/32/5553_2.png) [@duckJAI](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/duckJAI)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2008, 1:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-s13-winterizing-build/119092/15 "2008-10-11T13:22:17Z")
replacing elbows are a bitch too tho. ---
**Author:** ![Pants](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pants/32/5590_2.png) [@Pants](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pants)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2008, 2:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-s13-winterizing-build/119092/16 "2008-10-11T14:14:15Z")
it that valve cover from that dude off zilvia ---
**Author:** ![AhmadG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ahmadg/32/5577_2.png) [@AhmadG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AhmadG)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2008, 4:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-s13-winterizing-build/119092/17 "2008-10-11T16:21:13Z")
I’m in the same boat as you, but I have a topmount T3 manifold, and a rebuilt Garrett T3 42/48. I have a Redline Tuned ECU (EFI specialist) for 370cc injectors and stock MAF. I’ve been reading [ka-t.org](http://ka-t.org), and Jason from Emance seems to have good tunes for a good price. ---
**Author:** ![Silvia\_Drift](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/silvia_drift/32/5271_2.png) [@Silvia\_Drift](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Silvia_Drift)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2008, 5:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-s13-winterizing-build/119092/18 "2008-10-11T17:52:49Z")
Emance is shit. Jason just ripped off tunes from JWT, Efi Specialist, Enthalapy etc. Still, all of these tuned ECUs are still garbage like Bing said. They are tuned to be excessively “safe” which can be detrimental in the long run. Even though many cars can run the same setup, they are never exactly the same. Most people with tuned ECUs still have to get some kind of piggyback in order to fine tune the ECU for their setup. If you have cash, go with AEM EMS. If not, read up on the Calum RT ECU and try and learn how to tune it yourself. Its a relatively low cost tuning solution where you can you Nissan Datascan and Consult to monitor the engine. Tunerpro RT is a free piece of software that you can use to create tunes. Many people also purchase Nistune software to use with the Calum RT ECU. Megasquirt and Bikirom are also options but these are far too complex for me. If you want to go with a piggyback, from my research, the best one available is the AEM F/IC. Don’t waste time with a SAFC or even Emanage. The SAFC is complete garbage. The way it works is that it “tricks” the ECU to change the fuel map but adjusting the MAFS voltage. While this sounds like its fine, the timing map gets all screwed up and the tune is not very accurate. The SAFC has no timing adjustment. The Emanage is just way too expensive to get all the features you need such as timing adjustment. Its not as easy to use as the SAFC either, and it uses the same MAFS voltage method for fuel control. Timing control is also not very accurate and doesn’t seem to work all the time. The AEM F/IC is like a baby EMS. The F/IC adjusts fuel by increasing and decreasing injector pulse, so timing is not affected. The timing control is just like EMS where you can adjust the timing map. It even has a built in MAP sensor. A lot of people are running off the factory MAFS when in negative pressure (vacuum) and then switches to the MAP sensor when in positive pressure (boost) for a more accurate tune. Hope this helps. Take all this information with a grain of salt and do your own research. This is all stuff I have read (I am still trying to make up my mind on what unit to buy). I am personally still using a SAFC and a factory ECU lol. And please feel free to correct me if I said something incorrect. ---
**Author:** ![logik23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/logik23/32/5548_2.png) [@logik23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/logik23)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2008, 12:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-s13-winterizing-build/119092/19 "2008-10-12T00:18:35Z")
What I would like is an ECU tune like Enthalpy, but done on a dyno so it’s right for my car. I don;t know if that’s possible around here, or else I’d go with the baby AEM. The EMS would be sick, but out of my budget for this year, maybe next year. Yeah, the valve cover is from the guy on Zilvia. ---
**Author:** ![lopez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a9adbd/32.png) [@lopez](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/lopez)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2008, 2:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-s13-winterizing-build/119092/20 "2008-10-13T02:29:01Z")
mad original. [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-s13-winterizing-build/119092.md?page=2)