# N/A Power !!!KA24

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/n-a-power-ka24/84013>\
**Category:** SON240sx Automotive\
**Created:** [March 3, 2005, 8:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/n-a-power-ka24/84013 "2005-03-03T08:07:30Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![AppleSauce](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/applesauce/32/5521_2.png) [@AppleSauce](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AppleSauce)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2005, 9:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/n-a-power-ka24/84013/81 "2005-03-07T21:44:39Z")

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> [@lucky DFR](#):
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> call point zero in waterloo ask to talk to eric, and then try to get rob’s phone number…you know rob, fastest all motor crx in canada…
> 
> yeah…they don’t know there stuff…  
> but hey, you giys know everything…i forgot.

Fastest crx in canada??? If you’re talking about the person I’m thinking of you may want to put some more restrictions on that. Like fastests all motor crx with orange rims in canada.

Last I checked John at ETD owned the fastest all motor crx in Canada. Looks like this??

 ![http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v251/joe_user/P1010014.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/7/e/7e6a0b46885f2de4e7f80a12c82b0cf3fc5fc70d.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Hector](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/43a26b/32.png) [@Hector](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hector)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2005, 10:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/n-a-power-ka24/84013/82 "2005-03-07T22:09:12Z")

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> [@AppleSauce](#):
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> What people are saying is the original car posted is bogus, stock intake manifold, 250 horsepower with 240 torque?? the torque is way to high, and you’ll never do it with that intake maniflod.
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> I am then saying matt isn’t going to make the power he thinks he is, because he isn’t going to be spending $8000+
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> I have no clue who hector is, or if he even has his own car. I know very well what kind of power NA hondas can make, but unfortunatly that doesn’t mean any car can do it.

hello ed , i have no car, i am a camel rider, i didnt know we were tlking about cars,

i never worked on this car [http://www.allmotorsohc.com/gallery/](http://www.allmotorsohc.com/gallery/)

in fact when i worked at a race shop for three years i was sleeping, acutally im sorry im not freinds with the owners of the fastest imports in canada,

ed im on my fourth 240sx in order i have had 89 240sx, 87 supra turbo, 1990 240sx, 1993 240sx, and i currently own a 92 240sx,

i worked at evans race products for three years , worked at subaru for a year when i was still in high school, also i am a certified welder, oh yes and i have 3 years of automotive apprenticeship under my belt. but i dont know a single thing about cars , and i dont have one,

and i currently run a transportation and logistics company, as well as take care of my fathers furniture store seeing as he is ill

now u know who i am, all my information is verifiable, i also know all about u ED,

but once again u have made idle comments with nothing to prove what ur saying is right , all ur doing is riding hte coat tales of poeple here with valid informaition ED please please stop being a dork and say something valid,

u seem to have posts that are quite reminicant to something i would expect of a pre-teen. Is this the reason u sound so child like ? Is it cuz ur still a virgin? R u taking out ur lack of sexual activities on the poeple here that try to make progress?  
Its ok little guy ull grow fur soon. and one day ull save enough money to buy a hooker so u can pop ur cherry

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**Author:** ![Hector](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/43a26b/32.png) [@Hector](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hector)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2005, 10:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/n-a-power-ka24/84013/83 "2005-03-07T22:11:53Z")

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> [@AppleSauce](#):
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> [quote=lucky DFR]call point zero in waterloo ask to talk to eric, and then try to get rob’s phone number…you know rob, fastest all motor crx in canada…
> 
> yeah…they don’t know there stuff…  
> but hey, you giys know everything…i forgot.

Fastest crx in canada??? If you’re talking about the person I’m thinking of you may want to put some more restrictions on that. Like fastests all motor crx with orange rims in canada.

Last I checked John at ETD owned the fastest all motor crx in Canada. Looks like this??

 ![http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v251/joe_user/P1010014.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/7/e/7e6a0b46885f2de4e7f80a12c82b0cf3fc5fc70d.jpeg)[/quote]

what i belive matty meant was fastest all motor street crx,

actually ed u need to check again cuz i belive bruno gabriel is owns the fastest all motor crx in canada, actually last event i was at bruno was the fastest all motor crx in canada, actually that was the last event of the year i belive ,

its kinda nice now that john is driving now , the kid they had before couldnt even shift or drive a manual car , johns crx is quick, but not the fastest as far as i know, theyve been doing alot better since they were able to figure out the timing issues they were having with tuning the individual coils , its gotta be nice to have full sponsorship.

i dunno though, i dont know john form etd, or bruno gabriel, or rob schneider, or scott makay, nope not me i dont know them oh wait yes i do

edit: yur right i just check it out and etd holds the fastest time for a all motor crx

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**Author:** ![Hector](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/43a26b/32.png) [@Hector](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hector)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2005, 10:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/n-a-power-ka24/84013/84 "2005-03-07T22:33:55Z")

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> [@ADAM](#):
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> what I really wanted to do once is build a NOS motor…built up with dual stage NOS… all computer controlled… a 300 shot+
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> that would be cool…
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> that would be like dropping a HUGE hammer… ohh yeah
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> low revs… STUPID peak cylinder pressures…he he

sounds like a plan, lets do it , i like naaaaaaawwwz, but will my floor pan hold up? will i blow the welds on the intake, im not sure about this one, it sounds like a recipe for green flames :lol:

Hey ed now this is the part where u come in and tell me that ur magical donkey from lolly pop lane in magical fairy land told u it cant be done right ? :mrgreen:

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**Author:** ![ADAM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4af34b/32.png) [@ADAM](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ADAM)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2005, 7:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/n-a-power-ka24/84013/85 "2005-03-08T07:45:05Z")

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hehe we would have to REALLY weld the floor pans down…and always activate the NOS at the right time…cause it may be …“too soon too soon”

🙂

i loved my 75 shot on my 240sx …more fun than the turbo in many ways

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**Author:** ![TekVicious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d9b06d/32.png) [@TekVicious](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TekVicious)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2005, 11:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/n-a-power-ka24/84013/86 "2005-03-10T23:02:44Z")

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3=your gonna try to suck min375CFM+ of air THROUGH BIKE ENGINE THROTTLE BODIES?

Yes. Not a real issue even.-TEK

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not a real issue…buddy you have no idea about fluid flows at all…  
There is no point in me even arguing with you in regards to this.

Andrew.

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Yes Andrew, I said it. I have a solid grasp on this concept. I’m not going to try and convince anyone here that I am an all motor genius or anything. I’m interested in knowing how a single xxmm throttle body and all it’s associated intake crap is going to outflow 4 x52mm throttle bodies(Gixxer 1000).  
Please explain as I am baffled by your claim that I don’t know what I’m talking about. Enlighten me!  
Which one of the intake runners on any stock OR custom intake is likely to outflow a 52mm throttle body, as each runner gets to have one?  
ANSWER MEE ZEES!

:roll:

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**Author:** ![boMex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@boMex](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boMex)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2005, 6:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/n-a-power-ka24/84013/87 "2005-03-11T06:35:51Z")

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> [@TekVicious](#):
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> WHo the hell wants a 250hp N/A 4 cylinder street car.

![http://beyondgravitycarclub.tripod.com/S2000%20pic2.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/c/e/ceb45de2530146e6b685b75a99e121c1d00e1259.jpeg)  
I dunno, S2000 drivers? :lol:

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**Author:** ![boMex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@boMex](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boMex)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2005, 6:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/n-a-power-ka24/84013/88 "2005-03-11T06:48:50Z")

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Since ADAM has ponied up some money, I think I’ll join in. $100 to the first SON member to break 200whp on the dyno with a KA24DE or E motor.  
-No power adders, this is pure NA  
-No race gas, this puppy should be able to be driven anywhere so the dyno run will be 91 octane with a fillup witnesses by me or big ADAM.  
-No dump pipe, some form of resonator/muffler must be present.  
-Dyno run must be made sometime in 2005  
-No “correction” factored into the dyno for high ambient air temps etc.  
-Dyno pull made in third gear  
-ADAM H witnesses the dyno run

Anyhoo, thats what is needed for my $100 ADAM can add anything if he thinks of it. Good luck guys

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**Author:** ![s13Junkyard](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/s13junkyard/32/5502_2.png) [@s13Junkyard](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/s13Junkyard)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2005, 7:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/n-a-power-ka24/84013/89 "2005-03-11T07:03:28Z")

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calling out ADAM J

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**Author:** ![ADAM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4af34b/32.png) [@ADAM](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ADAM)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2005, 7:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/n-a-power-ka24/84013/90 "2005-03-11T07:36:29Z")

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sounds good to me… my $100 stands

tek… so lets continue the thought process… so since the bike air intake system is ok then…then i assume you could use a bike exhaust system on our car as well…if not why? if you think the amount of intake is the same there should be no issues using a bike exhaust as the output …no?

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**Author:** ![Uniac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/34f0e0/32.png) [@Uniac](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Uniac)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2005, 8:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/n-a-power-ka24/84013/91 "2005-03-11T08:57:02Z")

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> [@ADAM](#):
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> sounds good to me… my $100 stands
> 
> tek… so lets continue the thought process… so since the bike air intake system is ok then…then i assume you could use a bike exhaust system on our car as well…if not why? if you think the amount of intake is the same there should be no issues using a bike exhaust as the output …no?

from what i remember, they used to use bike mufflers on the 240z’s back in the day…but i may have mis-heard what lavern said.

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**Author:** ![TM1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tm1/32/5517_2.png) [@TM1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TM1)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2005, 9:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/n-a-power-ka24/84013/92 "2005-03-11T09:07:35Z")

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> [@lucky DFR](#):
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> [quote=ADAM]sounds good to me… my $100 stands
> 
> tek… so lets continue the thought process… so since the bike air intake system is ok then…then i assume you could use a bike exhaust system on our car as well…if not why? if you think the amount of intake is the same there should be no issues using a bike exhaust as the output …no?

from what i remember, they used to use bike mufflers on the 240z’s back in the day…but i may have mis-heard what lavern said.[/quote]

Correct…

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**Author:** ![TekVicious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d9b06d/32.png) [@TekVicious](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TekVicious)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2005, 5:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/n-a-power-ka24/84013/93 "2005-03-11T17:56:51Z")

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Well, the intake lengths(and exhaust) will have to change according to your tuning requirements, such as ign. curve, cam, etc.  
My contention was that 45-50+mm TBs that are on liter bikes are more than adequate to flow for our streetcars. You’d likely want a larger set for a 240 such as a Busa or ZX12 set.

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