# NA horsepower

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/na-horsepower/144386>\
**Category:** Canada Nissan Automotive\
**Created:** [September 23, 2006, 5:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/na-horsepower/144386 "2006-09-23T17:44:11Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
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**Author:** ![Ingredients-240](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/59ef9b/32.png) [@Ingredients-240](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ingredients-240)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2006, 9:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/na-horsepower/144386/21 "2006-09-25T21:47:25Z")

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> [@Fallen](#):
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> and you know what… i’m starting to think this not too hard…

Its not about being hard, is about money…most guys looking for 200hp NA are on a budget, usually can’t afford to swap or go turbo or are lacking the skills to do so…you will need an advanced ems like sds or aem, so thats 1000-2000 right there…its not just I/H/E like most only dream it was…pistions, rods too if you wanna rev the KA, valvetrain, cams, p&p, lightweight pully’s/flywheel/driveshaft, etc…posibly ITB’s and a coil on plug ignition…basicaly its going to cost the same as a 400+hp turbo setup on a KA with only minimal difference in reliability…more power to ya if ya do, but for your average joe its not worth it…be fun for auto x though!

Adam

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**Author:** ![jdms13rhd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f05b48/32.png) [@jdms13rhd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jdms13rhd)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2006, 10:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/na-horsepower/144386/22 "2006-09-25T22:52:30Z")

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SR2.2 for non turbo

The kits are much much cheaper than the turbo kits. They are light pistons and crank and rods. Revs to 10 grand and can make up to 250hp

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**Author:** ![Nis240](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a9a28c/32.png) [@Nis240](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nis240)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2006, 6:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/na-horsepower/144386/23 "2006-09-26T06:59:29Z")

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> [@Ingredients-240](#):
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> [quote=Fallen]and you know what… i’m starting to think this not too hard…

Its not about being hard, is about money…most guys looking for 200hp NA are on a budget, usually can’t afford to swap or go turbo or are lacking the skills to do so…you will need an advanced ems like sds or aem, so thats 1000-2000 right there…its not just I/H/E like most only dream it was…pistions, rods too if you wanna rev the KA, valvetrain, cams, p&p, lightweight pully’s/flywheel/driveshaft, etc…posibly ITB’s and a coil on plug ignition…basicaly its going to cost the same as a 400+hp turbo setup on a KA with only minimal difference in reliability…more power to ya if ya do, but for your average joe its not worth it…be fun for auto x though!

Adam[/quote]  
Coil on plug ignition??? Most people get rid of that due to the fact the coil packs get heat soaked and crap out and are not stong enough. If you want to upgrade you get LS1 Coils…Which have spark plug wires.

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**Author:** ![mikesim](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mikesim/32/5561_2.png) [@mikesim](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/mikesim)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2006, 4:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/na-horsepower/144386/24 "2006-09-26T16:11:18Z")

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i think you’d be better off looking on the SE-R forums about the SQR23DE setup. it takes an NA QR and uses SR crank and custom pistons and rods. the result is something phenomenal. the guy who engineered it is looking for 250-270whp NA! the turbo version already made 393 HP.

before you go off and think that’s FWD, there are RWD QR’s in trucks, and there’s probably a bellhousing adaptor that’ll work with the KA transmission.

vid of the SQR23DET [http://videos.streetfire.net/player.aspx?fileid=329439E6-582E-40D3-BD49-83ED37758193](http://videos.streetfire.net/player.aspx?fileid=329439E6-582E-40D3-BD49-83ED37758193)

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**Author:** ![drader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9dc877/32.png) [@drader](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drader)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2006, 4:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/na-horsepower/144386/25 "2006-09-26T16:45:00Z")

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> [@beatshack](#):
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> hmm ok, so are you really concerned if its technically “N/A” (regarding the nitrous) or do you just want a faster car without going turbo?

Sorry but I am never ever going to use nitrous.

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**Author:** ![Variable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/cab0a1/32.png) [@Variable](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Variable)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2006, 8:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/na-horsepower/144386/26 "2006-09-26T20:08:39Z")

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Good call, bottles are for babies. If your car can’t make honest power whats the point.

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**Author:** ![canadianskyline](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/41988e/32.png) [@canadianskyline](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/canadianskyline)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2006, 10:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/na-horsepower/144386/27 "2006-09-26T22:15:36Z")

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I say if you want NA power out of an import just buy a V8 and pop it in… :lol:

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**Author:** ![mini\_me1209](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@mini\_me1209](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/mini_me1209)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2006, 12:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/na-horsepower/144386/28 "2006-09-27T00:33:37Z")

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bite the bullet drader!! build a ka-t monster!!!

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**Author:** ![drader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9dc877/32.png) [@drader](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drader)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2006, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/na-horsepower/144386/29 "2006-09-27T16:58:46Z")

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I have considered this before, but I have heard a bunch of people blowing up their motors, so I dunnnnno. :?

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**Author:** ![RS13](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/46a35a/32.png) [@RS13](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RS13)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2006, 5:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/na-horsepower/144386/30 "2006-09-27T17:07:56Z")

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> [@drader](#):
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> I have considered this before, but I have heard a bunch of people blowing up their motors, so I dunnnnno. :?

it is all in the tune.

People want to build one for cheap. Of course it is not going to last or be great if your super cheap.

BUT it you do it right it can be awsome.

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**Author:** ![Nis240](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a9a28c/32.png) [@Nis240](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nis240)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2006, 6:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/na-horsepower/144386/31 "2006-09-27T18:01:19Z")

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> [@RS13](#):
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> [quote=drader]I have considered this before, but I have heard a bunch of people blowing up their motors, so I dunnnnno. :?

it is all in the tune.

People want to build one for cheap. Of course it is not going to last or be great if your super cheap.

BUT it you do it right it can be awsome.[/quote]  
Haraaaah For 20 PSI on a stock block. :E

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