# NAS- Hip Hop is Dead **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [December 7, 2006, 6:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nas-hip-hop-is-dead/21296 "2006-12-07T06:21:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Rx3](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rx3/32/7194_2.png) [@Rx3](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Rx3)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2006, 12:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nas-hip-hop-is-dead/21296/41 "2006-12-12T00:02:51Z")
I just bought the NAS album, and honestly it is very good start to finish. Lyrically he is still on point, and the majority of his songs have a point to them, something that can’t be said for 90% of the other hip hop artists out there. Another thing, people need to stop comparing everything Nas does to Illmatic. Illmatic was Illmatic, and yes it was good. The rest of the stuff is different. Nas has evolved way past Illmatic, and I’m glad he changes it up. I’d probably hate him if everything sounded like Illmatic. ---
**Author:** ![JaysGreenLX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jaysgreenlx/32/7321_2.png) [@JaysGreenLX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JaysGreenLX)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2006, 5:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nas-hip-hop-is-dead/21296/42 "2006-12-12T05:31:49Z")
^ I’ve been listening here and there. I haven’t made it through the whole CD yet, but I am enjoying what I hear so far. ---
**Author:** ![Johnnylude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/2acd7d/32.png) [@Johnnylude](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Johnnylude)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2006, 5:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nas-hip-hop-is-dead/21296/43 "2006-12-12T05:46:48Z")
> [@DarkkstaR](#): > > Nas’s career is extremely hit or miss to be one of the best in my eyes. > > Whoever mentioned Jay-Z up there, stop buying into hype, pretty please? > > Fucking Weezy is better then Jay these days. Haha… weezy?.. its a shame Gille Da Kid ghost writes for him and Baby… ---
**Author:** ![Bsp\_TC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bsp_tc/32/4998_2.png) [@Bsp\_TC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bsp_TC)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2006, 8:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nas-hip-hop-is-dead/21296/44 "2006-12-12T08:56:12Z")
> [@Rx3](#): > > I just bought the NAS album, and honestly it is very good start to finish. Lyrically he is still on point, and the majority of his songs have a point to them, something that can’t be said for 90% of the other hip hop artists out there. > > Another thing, people need to stop comparing everything Nas does to Illmatic. Illmatic was Illmatic, and yes it was good. The rest of the stuff is different. Nas has evolved way past Illmatic, and I’m glad he changes it up. I’d probably hate him if everything sounded like Illmatic. where did you buy it from??? ---
**Author:** ![Rx3](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rx3/32/7194_2.png) [@Rx3](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Rx3)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2006, 1:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nas-hip-hop-is-dead/21296/45 "2006-12-12T13:37:42Z")
Pre-ordered it from Amazon just before I posted, after listening to the leak at work: > **[Nas - Hip Hop Is Dead - Amazon.com Music](https://www.amazon.com/Hip-Hop-Dead-Nas/dp/B000JVSZIY/sr=8-1/qid=1165959104/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/102-2043945-1880960?ie=UTF8&s=music)** > > One of the greatest MCs to ever pick up a microphone, Nas has watched as his beloved hip-hop has gone from its innocent days of B-boy battles and lyrical sport to today's fake-posturing and commercial ... ---
**Author:** ![djdstar](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/djdstar/32/7617_2.png) [@djdstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/djdstar)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2006, 2:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nas-hip-hop-is-dead/21296/46 "2006-12-12T14:15:44Z")
> [@Johnnylude](#): > > Haha… weezy?.. its a shame Gille Da Kid ghost writes for him and Baby… Better then biting… _[http://youtube.com/watch?v=1EK\_VI0krV8](http://youtube.com/watch?v=1EK_VI0krV8)_ ---
**Author:** ![Rx3](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rx3/32/7194_2.png) [@Rx3](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Rx3)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2006, 2:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nas-hip-hop-is-dead/21296/47 "2006-12-12T14:43:02Z")
> [@DarkkstaR](#): > > Better then biting… > > _[http://youtube.com/watch?v=1EK\_VI0krV8](http://youtube.com/watch?v=1EK_VI0krV8)_ I dunno about that. Half the clips were hooks, and since when have hip hop artists not used other’s lines as hooks? That’s just a little battle propaganda. If you look at the total body of work, those instances are minor at best. You could go around to a lot of artists and make 10 minute clips of “biting” . Hip hop was built to some extent on taking something that exists and putting a spin on it, whether it be sampling, hooks, etc. Hell people bite Jay-Z too, look at T.I., Cassidy, the list goes on. Jay ain’t the only one biting Slick Rick and Biggie, that’s for sure. ---
**Author:** ![djdstar](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/djdstar/32/7617_2.png) [@djdstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/djdstar)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2006, 6:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nas-hip-hop-is-dead/21296/48 "2006-12-12T18:33:13Z")
well regardless, I’m not going to get into Cam vs. Jay. I feel like Weezy is better then Jay, and I think Jay’s an overrated has-been. My opinion, :gotme: ---
**Author:** ![Rx3](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rx3/32/7194_2.png) [@Rx3](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Rx3)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2006, 6:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nas-hip-hop-is-dead/21296/49 "2006-12-12T18:40:12Z")
> [@Bsp TC](#): > > on the cd you listed theres 16 tracks, and the new cd only has 14 > > 1. Don’t Hate Me Now > 2. QB Tru G’S > 3. Black Republican > 4. Where Y’all at > 5. Play on Playa > 6. Still Dreaming > 7. White Man’s Paper > 8. Blunt Ashes > 9. Hip Hop Is Dead > 10. Where Are They Now > 11. Let There Be Light > 12. Not Going Back > 13. An’t Forget About You > 14. Hold Down the Block > > i dunno if thats actually from the cd or what > > but none the less hustlers from the cd you posted is fucking sickkkkkkk You missed two hidden/bonus tracks: 1. Hustlers (w/ Game & Dr. Dre) 2. Hope (acapella version) ---
**Author:** ![dezod](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dezod/32/7467_2.png) [@dezod](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dezod)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2006, 8:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nas-hip-hop-is-dead/21296/50 "2006-12-12T20:01:18Z")
> [@civichb](#): > > **Jay’s only REEAL hot record was Reasonable Doubt** , then Hard Knck Life, everthing else is filler. Word!!! ---
**Author:** ![dezod](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dezod/32/7467_2.png) [@dezod](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dezod)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2006, 8:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nas-hip-hop-is-dead/21296/51 "2006-12-12T20:03:52Z")
> [@civichb](#): > > What happend to real groups that had an MC and used turntables? > **Blahzay Blahzay-Was listenin to this the other day!!! Still fresh.** > **Masta Ace-Same here** > **Main Source-I am lookin at the front door…** > KMD > EPMD > Group Home- **Damn you been monitoring my playlist???..** > **GangStarr-Primo & Guru since like 92!** Edited for commentary I mean almost all of my ipod that is hip hop oriented is all older underground like Gang Starr, Group Home, Blah, Camp Lo, Dilated, Mr. Lif, ALC, Kweli, Mos, SOB, Rakim, Pete Rock, GZA, Raekwon, Afu-Ra… ---
**Author:** ![Shockwave179](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shockwave179/32/7496_2.png) [@Shockwave179](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shockwave179)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2006, 8:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nas-hip-hop-is-dead/21296/52 "2006-12-12T20:12:53Z")
> [@civichb](#): > > The Black album or his “return” record, i guess it doesn’t matter since they both were less than desirable. > > What happend to real Hip Hop/ Rap music when MC’s had to really have and show skills. Now all you need is one “hot single” to grab ppl with, which includes that catchy beat, have hiphop whores in your videos and talk about all the cars and chains you have. > > Biggest jokes and disgraces right now, Young Jeezy & Young Joc. > Even ppl that actaully were good back in the day seem to have fallen off, such as Snoop, DMX. > > What happend to real groups that had an MC and used turn tables? > Blahzay Blahzay > Masta Ace > Main Source > KMD > EPMD > Group Home > GangStarr While I like some new stuff Gangstarr is probably #1 on my all time hip hop/rap favorites. I think moment of truth is probably my favorite cd to this day. ---
**Author:** ![Rx3](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rx3/32/7194_2.png) [@Rx3](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Rx3)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2006, 10:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nas-hip-hop-is-dead/21296/53 "2006-12-12T22:06:36Z")
I’m not even sure you can compare groups like Gangstarr to anybody now because things are so different. Most of my iPod has old school/underground stuff on it too. ---
**Author:** ![djdstar](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/djdstar/32/7617_2.png) [@djdstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/djdstar)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2006, 10:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nas-hip-hop-is-dead/21296/54 "2006-12-12T22:50:43Z")
> [@Rx3](#): > > I’m not even sure you can compare groups like Gangstarr to anybody now because things are so different. Most of my iPod has old school/underground stuff on it too. I agree. Guru and Primo = the win, but things have changed since then… ---
**Author:** ![j\_espo1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/j_espo1/32/7291_2.png) [@j\_espo1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/j_espo1)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2006, 7:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nas-hip-hop-is-dead/21296/55 "2006-12-13T07:55:31Z")
> [@Shockwave179](#): > > While I like some new stuff Gangstarr is probably #1 on my all time hip hop/rap favorites. I think moment of truth is probably my favorite cd to this day. moment of truth is nice. :tup: ---
**Author:** ![dezod](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dezod/32/7467_2.png) [@dezod](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dezod)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2006, 10:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nas-hip-hop-is-dead/21296/56 "2006-12-13T10:47:01Z")
> [@j\_espo1](#): > > moment of truth is nice. :tup: Word, but Hard to Earn trumps it. ---
**Author:** ![Daddie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/daddie/32/7621_2.png) [@Daddie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Daddie)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2006, 11:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nas-hip-hop-is-dead/21296/57 "2006-12-13T11:10:30Z")
Primo :tup: Tribe :tup: most new shit today :tdown: ---
**Author:** ![dezod](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dezod/32/7467_2.png) [@dezod](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dezod)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2006, 1:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nas-hip-hop-is-dead/21296/58 "2006-12-13T13:57:37Z")
I have Primo’s autograph and a pic of him and I on my desk here! Met him in T.O. while shopping for records in “Play De Record” on Younge. I was in T.O. to see him that night at some place that night for a series called “Doin it”. It was show casing the most profound producers. AWESOME SET he did that night. ---
**Author:** ![Bakes](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bakes/32/7469_2.png) [@Bakes](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bakes)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2006, 6:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nas-hip-hop-is-dead/21296/59 "2006-12-14T06:30:55Z")
> [@Daddie](#): > > Tribe :tup: Aww, i miss Tribe! ---
**Author:** ![Johnnylude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/2acd7d/32.png) [@Johnnylude](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Johnnylude)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2006, 9:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nas-hip-hop-is-dead/21296/60 "2006-12-14T09:35:06Z")
> [@DarkkstaR](#): > > Better then biting… > > _[http://youtube.com/watch?v=1EK\_VI0krV8](http://youtube.com/watch?v=1EK_VI0krV8)_ biting is one thing… but not writing your own rhymes??? Lil Wayne is suspect! BTW Tribe was great when they were together… [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nas-hip-hop-is-dead/21296.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nas-hip-hop-is-dead/21296.md?page=4)