# NAS- Hip Hop is Dead **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [December 7, 2006, 6:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nas-hip-hop-is-dead/21296 "2006-12-07T06:21:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![manhagen](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/manhagen/32/7336_2.png) [@manhagen](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/manhagen)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2006, 1:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nas-hip-hop-is-dead/21296/61 "2006-12-15T13:24:29Z")
> [@Johnnylude](#): > > but HOVA holds the crown dudes a chump. ---
**Author:** ![djdstar](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/djdstar/32/7617_2.png) [@djdstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/djdstar)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2006, 12:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nas-hip-hop-is-dead/21296/62 "2006-12-16T12:29:02Z")
> [@Johnnylude](#): > > biting is one thing… but not writing your own rhymes??? > > Lil Wayne is suspect! > > BTW Tribe was great when they were together… I’m just using him as an example, I don’t even like Wayne that much. Hova is overrated, anyone who falls for that best rapper alive bullshit is just buying into hype. ---
**Author:** ![Johnnylude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/2acd7d/32.png) [@Johnnylude](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Johnnylude)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2006, 10:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nas-hip-hop-is-dead/21296/63 "2006-12-18T10:56:32Z")
> [@gotdubd](#): > > dudes a chump. men lie, women lie… numbers DONT! I wouldd like to hear who u think is better? ---
**Author:** ![djdstar](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/djdstar/32/7617_2.png) [@djdstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/djdstar)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2006, 1:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nas-hip-hop-is-dead/21296/64 "2006-12-18T13:28:47Z")
> [@Johnnylude](#): > > men lie, women lie… numbers DONT! > > I wouldd like to hear who u think is better? so selling the most records is a fair judgement of skill that doesn’t account marketing? because marketing doesn’t lie either now does it… ---
**Author:** ![Daddie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/daddie/32/7621_2.png) [@Daddie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Daddie)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2006, 3:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nas-hip-hop-is-dead/21296/65 "2006-12-18T15:04:05Z")
Hova’s good, the best? meh, everyone says they are the best. LL says he’s the greatest of all time. Uh, no. I don’t know who I would ever drop as “the greatest”… ---
**Author:** ![dezod](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dezod/32/7467_2.png) [@dezod](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dezod)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2006, 12:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nas-hip-hop-is-dead/21296/66 "2006-12-19T12:02:26Z")
> [@Daddie](#): > > Hova’s good, the best? meh, everyone says they are the best. > > LL says he’s the greatest of all time. Uh, no. > > I don’t know who I would ever drop as “the greatest”… Rakim is one of the greatest for sure. Rakim-Allah! ---
**Author:** ![MidgeX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@MidgeX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MidgeX)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2006, 2:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nas-hip-hop-is-dead/21296/67 "2006-12-19T14:09:38Z")
> [@Johnnylude](#): > > men lie, women lie… numbers DONT! > > I wouldd like to hear who u think is better? no number do lie when jay buys 250k of his own cd’s they lie ---
**Author:** ![neurokinetik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/neurokinetik/32/7270_2.png) [@neurokinetik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/neurokinetik)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2006, 2:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nas-hip-hop-is-dead/21296/68 "2006-12-19T14:27:27Z")
> [@DarkkstaR](#): > > so selling the most records is a fair judgement of skill that doesn’t account marketing? because marketing doesn’t lie either now does it… Quoted for truth… The biggest selling records are the biggest sellers because of marketing and promotion. Musical talent has absolutely nothing to do with it. ---
**Author:** ![manhagen](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/manhagen/32/7336_2.png) [@manhagen](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/manhagen)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2006, 7:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nas-hip-hop-is-dead/21296/69 "2006-12-19T19:06:19Z")
> [@Johnnylude](#): > > men lie, women lie… numbers DONT! > > I wouldd like to hear who u think is better? biggie. no questions. dead or alive. the greatest rapper of all time died on march 9th. jayz is some serious bullshit. and god damn man. you honestly think jay is better than gangstarr, slick, big L, rakim, and everyone else pre-1995 from NYC. no fucking way. ---
**Author:** ![dezod](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dezod/32/7467_2.png) [@dezod](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dezod)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2006, 6:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nas-hip-hop-is-dead/21296/70 "2006-12-22T06:54:08Z")
> [@gotdubd](#): > > biggie. > no questions. > dead or alive. > the greatest rapper of all time died on march 9th. > > jayz is some serious bullshit. > > and god damn man. you honestly think jay is better than **gangstarr, slick, big L, rakim,** and everyone else pre-1995 from NYC. no fucking way. Contrary to the popular belief, Gangstarr actually represents Boston. Primo is actually from TX too. ---
**Author:** ![djdstar](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/djdstar/32/7617_2.png) [@djdstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/djdstar)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2006, 3:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nas-hip-hop-is-dead/21296/71 "2006-12-23T03:07:07Z")
the fact of the matter is: hip-hop is not dead…fuck corny ass nas. you guys are all talkin about older golden era hiphop and what not - since when were the “4 elements” of hiphop displayed in Nas’s videos? Oh wait, never. It was always grimy ass Queensbridge shit. Now it’s the South, grimy ass street shit. Nas bitches, “hip-hops dead”…well he’s crying cuz the streets aren’t listening to him anymore. Face it it’s the same shit, different formula. Lyricism is just as on point as ever, don’t act like the new club jam shit is stupid because just like mentioned earlier, there was always stupid club shit - read: Oochie Wally by Nas. We could sit here and go line by line and guess what, the has-beens have just as many good and bad lines as the new dudes in their lyrical catalog. Yeah everyone likes the early 90s shit and all, but you gotta accept hip-hop for what it is because lets face it, the lyrical content back then isn’t THAT great and/or different. You can debate lyrics all day long but in reality there’s only so many ways you can express emotions so fuck it, as long as they’re decent and have good lines, what’s the fucking point of reading a few lines from each rapper trying to determine what’s better? Fuck it, you like what you like and we like what we like. Bottom line though, Nas, Jay-Z, all those cats…has-beens. I won’t take someone seriously that says hip-hop is dead - shit is as alive as it’s ever been…fuck it if anything all the harder street shit is more marketable then EVER right now. Bring in the new contenders…Jeezy, the Game, Cam’ron/Dipset, Wayne…whatever. Let go of 1995 cuz it ain’t comin back. ---
**Author:** ![Bakes](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bakes/32/7469_2.png) [@Bakes](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bakes)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2023, 6:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nas-hip-hop-is-dead/21296/72 "2023-10-10T18:39:57Z")
It’s funny how you mention Nas as being corny, when you FFWD to now, Nas has dropped some amazing records since and all the shit you hear mainstream is corny and mumbly. ---
**Author:** ![ubengineering](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ubengineering/32/5171_2.png) [@ubengineering](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ubengineering)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 1:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nas-hip-hop-is-dead/21296/73 "2023-10-11T13:03:29Z")
Damn 17 years is this the longest bump we have seen? ---
**Author:** ![Bakes](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bakes/32/7469_2.png) [@Bakes](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bakes)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 6:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nas-hip-hop-is-dead/21296/74 "2023-10-11T18:30:51Z")
I can try to do better next time…LOL ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 11:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nas-hip-hop-is-dead/21296/75 "2023-10-11T23:47:01Z")
Speaking of hip hop, how about the new Drake? ![IMG_20231006_130906](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/3/1/31538e8dab7b6af7c29620fbf1788dca7b436ebc.jpeg) [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nas-hip-hop-is-dead/21296.md?page=3)