# Need a Loophole!

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**Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic\
**Created:** [May 22, 2005, 8:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-a-loophole/174494 "2005-05-22T20:51:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![The1SloR\_T](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/the1slor_t/32/5984_2.png) [@The1SloR\_T](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/The1SloR_T)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2005, 8:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-a-loophole/174494/1 "2005-05-22T20:51:14Z")

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well i knew i shouldnt have done it, but i had to go thru mt Lebanon to get to a friends house and guess what…  
YA some asshole cop pulls me over and says that i can either remove the tint within 10 days on my back 3 windows of get a ticket for $105…

if ANYONE knows any way around this please let me know  
i Just got the windows done and without the tint the car looks like a damn fishbowl…

friend of mine has a twin of my car, i was thinkin of takeing a pic of his with my license plate on it and delivering this card to the police station 🤣  
but if anyone has any other idea let me know…  
ON TOPIC please

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**Author:** ![starboy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/starboy/32/5985_2.png) [@starboy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/starboy)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2005, 9:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-a-loophole/174494/2 "2005-05-22T21:03:02Z")

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photoshop

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**Author:** ![Quik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/quik/32/5979_2.png) [@Quik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Quik)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2005, 9:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-a-loophole/174494/3 "2005-05-22T21:06:39Z")

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just pay the fine and not go thru there again

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**Author:** ![The1SloR\_T](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/the1slor_t/32/5984_2.png) [@The1SloR\_T](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/The1SloR_T)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2005, 9:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-a-loophole/174494/4 "2005-05-22T21:14:33Z")

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> [@starboy](#):
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> photoshop

want to do it for me?  
i dont have photoshop and i know i would suck at it…

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**Author:** ![The1SloR\_T](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/the1slor_t/32/5984_2.png) [@The1SloR\_T](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/The1SloR_T)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2005, 9:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-a-loophole/174494/5 "2005-05-22T21:18:16Z")

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other thing is i wasnt even in mt lebanon when he pulled me over… he has on the warning marked as Washington @ Mcfarland… meanwhile i was in front of the hyandia dealer in Dormont…

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**Author:** ![vw16vcabby](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vw16vcabby/32/5943_2.png) [@vw16vcabby](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/vw16vcabby)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2005, 9:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-a-loophole/174494/6 "2005-05-22T21:23:26Z")

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back 3 windows are legal to tint. go to local library and copy out the entire law book as well as the state inspection book.

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**Author:** ![traydogg6969](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/traydogg6969/32/5999_2.png) [@traydogg6969](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/traydogg6969)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2005, 9:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-a-loophole/174494/7 "2005-05-22T21:25:02Z")

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did he use a tint meter

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**Author:** ![The1SloR\_T](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/the1slor_t/32/5984_2.png) [@The1SloR\_T](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/The1SloR_T)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2005, 9:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-a-loophole/174494/8 "2005-05-22T21:32:21Z")

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he did not use a tint meter, they dont have to use one anymore cuz all cars now have “factory” tint at 70% and you can tell when someone tints them now… ☹  
and sailor, he gave me a fact sheet about vehicle sun screening showing i can only have 70% on the back 3 windows ☹ theres gotta be a way around this

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**Author:** ![vw16vcabby](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vw16vcabby/32/5943_2.png) [@vw16vcabby](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/vw16vcabby)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2005, 9:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-a-loophole/174494/9 "2005-05-22T21:33:32Z")

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fact sheet my ass. nothing in inspection book or law book. i want to see it in legal print.

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**Author:** ![The1SloR\_T](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/the1slor_t/32/5984_2.png) [@The1SloR\_T](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/The1SloR_T)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2005, 9:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-a-loophole/174494/10 "2005-05-22T21:39:08Z")

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> [@vw16vcabby](#):
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> fact sheet my ass. nothing in inspection book or law book. i want to see it in legal print.

i’ll grab the inspection book from my shop tomorrow, ( i know theres nothing in it about tint) plus i’ll check out the law book…  
think i could just not show the cop i removed the tint, get the ticket, then fight it?

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**Author:** ![The1SloR\_T](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/the1slor_t/32/5984_2.png) [@The1SloR\_T](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/The1SloR_T)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2005, 9:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-a-loophole/174494/11 "2005-05-22T21:46:20Z")

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[http://www.dmv.state.pa.us/pdotforms/fact\_sheets/fs-sun.pdf](http://www.dmv.state.pa.us/pdotforms/fact_sheets/fs-sun.pdf) that is exactly the paper he gave me…

oh btw i forgot that i even filmed him on the cam 🤣

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**Author:** ![vw16vcabby](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vw16vcabby/32/5943_2.png) [@vw16vcabby](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/vw16vcabby)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2005, 10:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-a-loophole/174494/12 "2005-05-22T22:11:53Z")

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1st i have seen this. but if u go by this, then front windows are legal to tint then, as well as the enitre windshiel, not just down to the “dots”…

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**Author:** ![The1SloR\_T](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/the1slor_t/32/5984_2.png) [@The1SloR\_T](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/The1SloR_T)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2005, 10:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-a-loophole/174494/13 "2005-05-22T22:18:47Z")

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[http://www.berksweb.com/users/dmv/tint/](http://www.berksweb.com/users/dmv/tint/) i found that which is helping too

im thinkin of just getting a friend’s exact car and throwing a pittspeed sticker on the back and putting the same stickers i have to the left of my rear window on his and takin a couple pics and print them with the photodock then drop the warning and pictures off at the police station… with a different car that is lol, and just stay away from mt lebanon

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**Author:** ![traydogg6969](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/traydogg6969/32/5999_2.png) [@traydogg6969](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/traydogg6969)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2005, 11:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-a-loophole/174494/14 "2005-05-22T23:53:43Z")

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he will probably wanna see it in person but u could try that lol

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**Author:** ![Jeff95TA](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeff95ta/32/5935_2.png) [@Jeff95TA](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jeff95TA)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2005, 4:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-a-loophole/174494/15 "2005-05-23T04:03:29Z")

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So trucks don’t fall under these rules?

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**Author:** ![Sight\_N\_Sound](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sight_n_sound/32/5950_2.png) [@Sight\_N\_Sound](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sight_N_Sound)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2005, 4:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-a-loophole/174494/16 "2005-05-23T04:18:21Z")

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> [@Jeff95TA](#):
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> So trucks don’t fall under these rules?

trucks and vans as long as they have two outside mirrors with at least 19.5 Sq inches of reflective viewing surface on each side can have anything behind the driver’s compartment tinted as dark as you want.

Passenger cars are allowed to have minnimum of 70% light admitance to all windows, which it already comes from the factory with it especially on all cars built after I think it was 1995 or 1998.

Here is a screen shot of what is now inforced since the house passed a bill and it was changed last summer. What the bill did was fix a loop hole which stated wording in the PA Code. They are NOW ALLOWED TO enforce Table X. I posted about all this in other threads in On Topic reguarding Tint and the new applicable penalties including how they will now track it state wide. Basically first offence is $100, 2nd is $200, 3rd is a 30 Day Plate suspension.

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**Author:** ![venom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8c91f0/32.png) [@venom](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/venom)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2005, 9:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-a-loophole/174494/17 "2005-05-23T09:39:38Z")

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> [@Quik](#):
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> just pay the fine and not go thru there again

exactly. its not legal, dont bother searching for a loophole.

tint=1992

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**Author:** ![Vdubbiatch](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vdubbiatch/32/3344_2.png) [@Vdubbiatch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vdubbiatch)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2005, 9:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-a-loophole/174494/18 "2005-05-23T09:44:46Z")

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i went threw this exact same thing 2 summers ago, i had 10 days to remove my tint and take my car to the police station…never even thought about taking my tint off or go to the station, nothing ever happened maybe you’ll get lucky…FUCK da POlice

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**Author:** ![OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/olds_rocketman/32/5942_2.png) [@OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OLDS_ROCKETMAN)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2005, 11:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-a-loophole/174494/19 "2005-05-23T11:18:08Z")

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the suburb cops can kiss my ass. its hit or miss with them, you get cool ones and you get dicks. i’ve been pulled probably 15 times with cars that had tint and only one time did they say something but never did anything about it. munhall,mt oliver, mt lebo, brentwood, baldwin…just stay outta them places or don’t give them an extra reason to look ur way. anything darker than 20% is stupid anyway,

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**Author:** ![Quik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/quik/32/5979_2.png) [@Quik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Quik)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2005, 11:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-a-loophole/174494/20 "2005-05-23T11:40:18Z")

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AW,AW,AW

if your ride looks out of place then they will nail you. if you got a burben or a Thoe just plain jane with tint chances are you wont get fucked with. if you own a G body, ricer cavi, ricer neon, a blingbling truck then you will get nailed alot more then others will. just man up and pay the fine. youre lucky the officer didnt get you for your headlights, taillights

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