# need help for a friend's pontiac **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [September 28, 2009, 9:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-for-a-friends-pontiac/203822 "2009-09-28T09:13:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![danteisme](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ba8739/32.png) [@danteisme](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/danteisme)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2009, 9:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-for-a-friends-pontiac/203822/1 "2009-09-28T09:13:54Z")
my buddy has an 2004 GTP and is looking for a good place to take it to to get the tranny rebuilt. any suggestions? here’s the tranny number he gave me 4t65E HD ---
**Author:** ![Pewter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pewter/32/5936_2.png) [@Pewter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pewter)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2009, 9:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-for-a-friends-pontiac/203822/2 "2009-09-28T09:34:39Z")
hodge 724-626-1978 ---
**Author:** ![BlkP42E](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blkp42e/32/5938_2.png) [@BlkP42E](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BlkP42E)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2009, 4:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-for-a-friends-pontiac/203822/3 "2009-09-28T16:00:25Z")
4t63e hd’s are garbage… ive had them in 3 of my cars. and at 70k they allll start to go down hill ---
**Author:** ![danteisme](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ba8739/32.png) [@danteisme](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/danteisme)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2009, 4:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-for-a-friends-pontiac/203822/4 "2009-09-28T16:50:09Z")
yeah i was surprised when he said at 80K its on its way out ---
**Author:** ![Sinner6.0L](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sinner6.0l/32/6016_2.png) [@Sinner6.0L](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sinner6.0L)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2009, 6:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-for-a-friends-pontiac/203822/5 "2009-09-28T18:39:39Z")
teehee i’m going to start tearing down my spare here shortly. if he might wanna try DIY i could lead you in that direction also if he’s interested in just doing a good box job i can pm you the man to get it from edit - 80k is not uncommon especially if it’s beat. i’ve got 90k+ on mine now and it’s starting to not wanna hold first sometimes. find out his symptoms and i’ll let you know if it’s possibly an easy fix ---
**Author:** ![BlkP42E](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blkp42e/32/5938_2.png) [@BlkP42E](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BlkP42E)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2009, 7:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-for-a-friends-pontiac/203822/6 "2009-09-28T19:24:37Z")
mine with the first thing is valve body i believe. im replacing it in a few weeks. ---
**Author:** ![Swarzkopf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7feea3/32.png) [@Swarzkopf](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Swarzkopf)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2009, 7:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-for-a-friends-pontiac/203822/7 "2009-09-28T19:51:32Z")
I run Dex VI in mine- supposed to help them last alot longer. From what I understand, the things that really kill these transmissions are burnouts, nailing it around corners, and “skip shifts” (3-1 or 4-2 downshifts)- basically, all of the stuff that’s fun. 😃 Like was already mentioned, did he try any troubleshooting before assuming it’s toast? A good fluid and filter change can make a world of different sometimes- that, and upgrading to Dex VI could possibly even fix his issues. As far as local transmission shops, I can’t say enough good things about Transmissions by Lucille in Penn Hills- they built the AODE in my old Mustang for a fair price and it was a top notch unit (9.5" 3000 RPM stall from Edge, kevlar bands, hardened internals, etc). They also diagnosed a few easy fixes on other prior cars I owned and never overcharged me. ---
**Author:** ![BlkP42E](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blkp42e/32/5938_2.png) [@BlkP42E](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BlkP42E)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2009, 8:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-for-a-friends-pontiac/203822/8 "2009-09-28T20:05:47Z")
valve body. flushing mine with new dex VI fixed it for 3 days ---
**Author:** ![Swarzkopf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7feea3/32.png) [@Swarzkopf](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Swarzkopf)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2009, 5:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-for-a-friends-pontiac/203822/9 "2009-09-29T05:15:37Z")
Good luck with the one in your Impala. LOL ---
**Author:** ![BlkP42E](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blkp42e/32/5938_2.png) [@BlkP42E](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BlkP42E)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2009, 5:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-for-a-friends-pontiac/203822/10 "2009-09-29T05:46:08Z")
☹ ---
**Author:** ![Swarzkopf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7feea3/32.png) [@Swarzkopf](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Swarzkopf)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2009, 5:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-for-a-friends-pontiac/203822/11 "2009-09-29T05:49:17Z")
LOL! ---
**Author:** ![Sinner6.0L](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sinner6.0l/32/6016_2.png) [@Sinner6.0L](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sinner6.0L)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2009, 4:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-for-a-friends-pontiac/203822/12 "2009-09-29T16:01:49Z")
yeah i run dex VI in mine too but with a shift kit and significant pressure raises. you have to remember, if your clutches are worn and starting to slip dexron VI will not help the problem. it’s a synthetic fluid and it’s more slippery than regular III. overall it’s much better for the seals and bearings but your frictions may not like it ---
**Author:** ![Gibson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f0a364/32.png) [@Gibson](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gibson)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2009, 2:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-for-a-friends-pontiac/203822/13 "2009-09-30T02:53:44Z")
put a getrag 5 speed in it, autos are for pussys ---
**Author:** ![Shaggy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shaggy/32/5945_2.png) [@Shaggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shaggy)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2009, 3:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-for-a-friends-pontiac/203822/14 "2009-09-30T03:03:57Z")
> [@Im Having a Party](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/im-having-a-party/41215/23): > > put a getrag 5 speed in it, autos are for pussys so are getrags in a fwd gm ---
**Author:** ![Gibson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f0a364/32.png) [@Gibson](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gibson)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2009, 3:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-for-a-friends-pontiac/203822/15 "2009-09-30T03:30:24Z")
> [@HV Conditions?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hv-conditions/41241/3): > > so are getrags in a fwd gm hey, a 5 spped is better than an auto, but fwd cars are :greddy: regardless. ---
**Author:** ![Shaggy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shaggy/32/5945_2.png) [@Shaggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shaggy)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2009, 3:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-for-a-friends-pontiac/203822/16 "2009-09-30T03:38:53Z")
> [@Im Having a Party](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/im-having-a-party/41215/24): > > hey, a 5 spped is better than an auto, but fwd cars are :greddy: regardless. Wrong, S10 5 spped 4 banger is worse then a auto ---
**Author:** ![BlkP42E](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blkp42e/32/5938_2.png) [@BlkP42E](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BlkP42E)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2009, 5:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-for-a-friends-pontiac/203822/17 "2009-09-30T05:32:03Z")
> [@Im Having a Party](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/im-having-a-party/41215/23): > > put a getrag 5 speed in it, autos are for pussys who the fuck are you? ---
**Author:** ![Swarzkopf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7feea3/32.png) [@Swarzkopf](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Swarzkopf)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2009, 6:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-for-a-friends-pontiac/203822/18 "2009-09-30T06:17:38Z")
He rocks a really sweet 99 S10 4-cylinder man! Seriously Gibson, we were trying to actually help someone in this thread? Take your shit talking somewhere else (like the forum that’s actually devoted to it, “Off-Topic”?). ---
**Author:** ![BlkP42E](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blkp42e/32/5938_2.png) [@BlkP42E](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BlkP42E)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2009, 6:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-for-a-friends-pontiac/203822/19 "2009-09-30T06:40:09Z")
lol. lowered s10’s look like roller skates…