# Need help from someone with an E36

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-from-someone-with-an-e36/261564>\
**Category:** Shift518 Automotive\
**Created:** [December 1, 2011, 4:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-from-someone-with-an-e36/261564 "2011-12-01T16:20:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Mafdark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mafdark/32/6322_2.png) [@Mafdark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mafdark)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 6:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-from-someone-with-an-e36/261564/41 "2011-12-20T18:25:36Z")

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LOL. Thanks john. I’ll hunt one down somewhere.

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**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2011, 4:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-from-someone-with-an-e36/261564/42 "2011-12-21T04:53:35Z")

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What do you mean they looked fine? lol they are relays, they dont like explode and leak when they fail? lol

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**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2011, 4:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-from-someone-with-an-e36/261564/43 "2011-12-21T04:56:26Z")

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you can borrow my hazard relay to check if you come pick it up, clifton park

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**Author:** ![Mafdark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mafdark/32/6322_2.png) [@Mafdark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mafdark)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2011, 3:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-from-someone-with-an-e36/261564/44 "2011-12-21T15:10:45Z")

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Relay didn’t fix it. Back to square one.

It’s not the hazard switch, it’s not the hazard/indicator relay, my crash relay is not the model known to be defective…

now what?

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**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2011, 4:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-from-someone-with-an-e36/261564/45 "2011-12-21T16:25:39Z")

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What about a alarm ? Or shorted wires man .

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**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2011, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-from-someone-with-an-e36/261564/46 "2011-12-21T16:58:35Z")

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E36 noobitry strikes again! Haha jk, glad its fixed mike!

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**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2011, 5:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-from-someone-with-an-e36/261564/47 "2011-12-21T17:44:33Z")

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What was it ???

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**Author:** ![ninety1two40](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ninety1two40/32/6332_2.png) [@ninety1two40](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ninety1two40)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2011, 5:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-from-someone-with-an-e36/261564/48 "2011-12-21T17:47:31Z")

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He had semen shorting the pins in the BCM plug

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**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2011, 5:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-from-someone-with-an-e36/261564/49 "2011-12-21T17:50:05Z")

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It’s a b.m.w bennt why ya gotta blow off like that ?

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**Author:** ![JClark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jclark/32/6309_2.png) [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2011, 6:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-from-someone-with-an-e36/261564/50 "2011-12-21T18:07:50Z")

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The hazards were on. The easiest way to fix the problem is to turn them off.

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**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2011, 6:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-from-someone-with-an-e36/261564/51 "2011-12-21T18:09:29Z")

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Nooooooooooo fucking way lol

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**Author:** ![Mafdark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mafdark/32/6322_2.png) [@Mafdark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mafdark)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2011, 6:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-from-someone-with-an-e36/261564/52 "2011-12-21T18:44:21Z")

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nope, didn’t do it. They’re back on.

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**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2011, 6:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-from-someone-with-an-e36/261564/53 "2011-12-21T18:48:20Z")

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E36 noobitry strikes again! Haha jk, glad its fixed mike!

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**Author:** ![Mafdark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mafdark/32/6322_2.png) [@Mafdark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mafdark)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2011, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-from-someone-with-an-e36/261564/54 "2011-12-21T19:09:23Z")

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it’s not. I came back from dinner to see the bitch blending in with the christmas lights.

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**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 4:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-from-someone-with-an-e36/261564/55 "2011-12-22T04:29:41Z")

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Wait what? It’s flashing the hazards again?

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**Author:** ![crazybrew609](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/crazybrew609/32/6319_2.png) [@crazybrew609](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/crazybrew609)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 5:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-from-someone-with-an-e36/261564/56 "2011-12-22T05:13:46Z")

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i’m going to go ahead and put 5 doll hairs that says it’s behind the glovebox

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**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 5:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-from-someone-with-an-e36/261564/57 "2011-12-22T05:24:26Z")

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Last I knew when I talked to him last night his relays were good to go, he just didn’t know you had to reset the hazard switch by turning it on and off after you reconnect the battery.

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**Author:** ![Mafdark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mafdark/32/6322_2.png) [@Mafdark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mafdark)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 6:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-from-someone-with-an-e36/261564/58 "2011-12-22T06:05:00Z")

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> [@DBs](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dbs/47393/4):
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> Last I knew when I talked to him last night his relays were good to go, he just didn’t know you had to reset the hazard switch by turning it on and off after you reconnect the battery.

Right, although the first thing I did was install a new switch so I’m sure I switched it on/off somewhere in the process.

What exactly am I looking for behind the glovebox? The crash relay was below the steering wheel and it sounds like people are telling me to look for the same exact thing behind the glovebox.

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**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 9:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-from-someone-with-an-e36/261564/59 "2011-12-22T09:01:53Z")

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So the hazards are still going? You’ll have to do that every time you dis, and reconnect the battery.

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**Author:** ![Mafdark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mafdark/32/6322_2.png) [@Mafdark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mafdark)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 9:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-from-someone-with-an-e36/261564/60 "2011-12-22T09:13:46Z")

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flashers are still going. Switch doesn’t seem to affect anything.

The Relay has 8 pins on it:

2:power to relay (flash left)

3:power for hazards from relay

4: Power to flasher (left) PLUS power to hazard switch flashing light AND to crash control module.

5: power to flasher (left)

6: power to relay (hot at all times)

7: power to relay (flash right)

8: Ground

9: to crash control module

When tested with a multimeter  
6. (power to relay (hot at all times)) has power.  
8: (Ground) has ground

When car is on and stalk is moved

2: (power to relay (flash left)) Gets power  
and  
7: (power to relay (flash right)) Gets power

When crash module is removed, no change to above. Flashers continue to flash.

When 6: (power to relay (hot at all times)) is taped over, All of the above works the same but nothing flashes. No hazards, no blinkers despite power to 2 and 7.

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