# Need help from someone with an E36 **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Automotive\ **Created:** [December 1, 2011, 4:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-from-someone-with-an-e36/261564 "2011-12-01T16:20:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 9:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-from-someone-with-an-e36/261564/61 "2011-12-22T09:15:40Z")
When the hazards are on, is the light for the hazard switch flashing or is it off? ---
**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 9:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-from-someone-with-an-e36/261564/62 "2011-12-22T09:17:02Z")
ps: [http://wedophones.com/Manuals/BMW/1994%20BMW%20318i-s-c%20-%20320i%20-%20325i-s-c%20%20Electrical%20Troubleshooting%20Manual.pdf](http://wedophones.com/Manuals/BMW/1994%20BMW%20318i-s-c%20-%20320i%20-%20325i-s-c%20%20Electrical%20Troubleshooting%20Manual.pdf) ---
**Author:** ![Mafdark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mafdark/32/6322_2.png) [@Mafdark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mafdark)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 9:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-from-someone-with-an-e36/261564/63 "2011-12-22T09:32:52Z")
> [@risk + simcity with a pinch of civilization for good measure](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/risk-simcity-with-a-pinch-of-civilization-for-good-measure/46848/894): > > When the hazards are on, is the light for the hazard switch flashing or is it off? Hazard switch flashes while it is depressed. > [@Need Help with UHaul Assistance...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-with-uhaul-assistance/47380/9): > > ps: > > [http://wedophones.com/Manuals/BMW/1994%20BMW%20318i-s-c%20-%20320i%20-%20325i-s-c%20%20Electrical%20Troubleshooting%20Manual.pdf](http://wedophones.com/Manuals/BMW/1994%20BMW%20318i-s-c%20-%20320i%20-%20325i-s-c%20%20Electrical%20Troubleshooting%20Manual.pdf) Just found that one this morning and it is what i’ve been flipping through. flashers are still going. Switch doesn’t seem to affect anything. The Relay has 8 pins on it: 2:power to relay (flash left) _3:power for hazards from relay_ 4: Power to flasher (left) PLUS power to hazard switch flashing light AND to crash control module. 5: power to flasher (left) 6: power to relay (hot at all times) 7: power to relay (flash right) 8: Ground 9: to crash control module When tested with a multimeter 6. (power to relay (hot at all times)) has power. 8: (Ground) has ground When car is on and stalk is moved 2: (power to relay (flash left)) Gets power and 7: (power to relay (flash right)) Gets power When crash module is removed, no change to above. Flashers continue to flash. When 6: (power to relay (hot at all times)) is taped over, All of the above works the same but nothing flashes. No hazards, no blinkers despite power to 2 and 7. I just realized my relay has no pin #3… ---
**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 9:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-from-someone-with-an-e36/261564/64 "2011-12-22T09:44:14Z")
what about when the switch is ‘out’ though what I’m asking is, when the switch for the hazards is not on, is the light on the switch flashing, or no? ---
**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 9:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-from-someone-with-an-e36/261564/65 "2011-12-22T09:44:28Z")
did you check that trunk harness? ---
**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 9:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-from-someone-with-an-e36/261564/66 "2011-12-22T09:45:32Z")
and you’re saying that when you reset the switch last night they went off and stayed off, but then turned back on again by themselves? ---
**Author:** ![JClark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jclark/32/6309_2.png) [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 9:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-from-someone-with-an-e36/261564/67 "2011-12-22T09:47:44Z")
Someone recap the problem and what happens when x, y, and z are done… I’m lost. ---
**Author:** ![Mafdark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mafdark/32/6322_2.png) [@Mafdark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mafdark)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 9:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-from-someone-with-an-e36/261564/68 "2011-12-22T09:52:55Z")
> [@the new Vii](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-new-vii/47400/4): > > what about when the switch is ‘out’ though > > what I’m asking is, when the switch for the hazards is not on, is the light on the switch flashing, or no? When the switch it out it doesn’t flash. That seems to mesh with what i’m seeing on the diagram though. Basically the switch shouldn’t flash while it’s out or else it would flash when ever you turn on your left blinker It does flash while pressed. > [@Need Help with UHaul Assistance...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-with-uhaul-assistance/47380/12): > > did you check that trunk harness? yep, looks fine other than an obvious previous repair attempt. I moved all the wires around and checked them out, they are all shielded fine. > [@ZR-1 official HP 638!!!!!Also 604 TQ](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/zr-1-official-hp-638-also-604-tq/47384/20): > > and you’re saying that when you reset the switch last night they went off and stayed off, but then turned back on again by themselves? I think the relay wasn’t seated completely and when I hopped in the car to hit the switch it came loose or something. When I came back from dinner it was flashing again. The switch definitely is not affecting anything right now when I turn it on and off. ---
**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 9:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-from-someone-with-an-e36/261564/69 "2011-12-22T09:53:52Z")
This is mind numbingly odd. ---
**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 9:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-from-someone-with-an-e36/261564/70 "2011-12-22T09:56:17Z")
So wait lol. The flashers were on, you got in the car, hit the switch, they turned off. Then you went to dinner, came back, and they were back on? Just for clarifications sake. ---
**Author:** ![Mafdark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mafdark/32/6322_2.png) [@Mafdark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mafdark)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 9:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-from-someone-with-an-e36/261564/71 "2011-12-22T09:56:27Z")
> [@ZR-1 official HP 638!!!!!Also 604 TQ](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/zr-1-official-hp-638-also-604-tq/47384/21): > > Someone recap the problem and what happens when x, y, and z are done… I’m lost. Right now I don’t see a problem at the relay. That pretty much sums it up. It gets power where it should when it should. So I need to find out what else is affecting it making it do something it is not supposed to. Everything seems to point toward the relay at the moment but benny’s did the same exact thing when I borrowed it. ---
**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 9:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-from-someone-with-an-e36/261564/72 "2011-12-22T09:56:34Z")
Is there a possibility that someone in your house is fucking with you? lolol ---
**Author:** ![Mafdark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mafdark/32/6322_2.png) [@Mafdark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mafdark)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 9:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-from-someone-with-an-e36/261564/73 "2011-12-22T09:56:52Z")
> [@WTB t-56 setup](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-t-56-setup/47401/2): > > So wait lol. The flashers were on, you got in the car, hit the switch, they turned off. Then you went to dinner, came back, and they were back on? Just for clarifications sake. bingo. ---
**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 9:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-from-someone-with-an-e36/261564/74 "2011-12-22T09:57:30Z")
You should try throwing my relay back in, then cycling the switch with mine just to be sure. Do you have drivers and passenger airbags or just driver? ---
**Author:** ![Mafdark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mafdark/32/6322_2.png) [@Mafdark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mafdark)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 9:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-from-someone-with-an-e36/261564/75 "2011-12-22T09:57:32Z")
> [@motorcycle riders check in](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motorcycle-riders-check-in/47388/14): > > Is there a possibility that someone in your house is fucking with you? lolol Is Clark back in town? He had a ball with that scavenger hunt he sent me on. ---
**Author:** ![Mafdark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mafdark/32/6322_2.png) [@Mafdark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mafdark)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 9:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-from-someone-with-an-e36/261564/76 "2011-12-22T09:58:13Z")
> [@So which decade were you born in?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-which-decade-were-you-born-in/47359/69): > > You should try throwing my relay back in, then cycling the switch with mine just to be sure. > > Do you have drivers and passenger airbags or just driver? I was thinking the same thing. I have both airbags. ---
**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 9:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-from-someone-with-an-e36/261564/77 "2011-12-22T09:58:59Z")
Try this: put everything back together electrically as it should be. Disconnect battery for a while (a half hour should do it) Reconnect battery flashers on? cycle hazard switch ---
**Author:** ![Mafdark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mafdark/32/6322_2.png) [@Mafdark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mafdark)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 10:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-from-someone-with-an-e36/261564/78 "2011-12-22T10:10:27Z")
notta. Switch didn’t affect anything. ---
**Author:** ![Mafdark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mafdark/32/6322_2.png) [@Mafdark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mafdark)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 10:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-from-someone-with-an-e36/261564/79 "2011-12-22T10:38:29Z")
everything i’ve said is telling me that the crash relay when removed will prevent the hazards from working… With mine removed, they still work. ---
**Author:** ![ninety1two40](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ninety1two40/32/6332_2.png) [@ninety1two40](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ninety1two40)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 11:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-from-someone-with-an-e36/261564/80 "2011-12-22T11:00:33Z")
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