# Need help from someone with an E36 **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Automotive\ **Created:** [December 1, 2011, 4:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-from-someone-with-an-e36/261564 "2011-12-01T16:20:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 11:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-from-someone-with-an-e36/261564/81 "2011-12-22T11:00:50Z")
:rofl That new switch you got must be fucked up! Or your hazard relay, but it’s pretty unlikely that the failure mode would be them staying on. ---
**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 11:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-from-someone-with-an-e36/261564/82 "2011-12-22T11:01:37Z")
Steve I posted a link to schematics above. ---
**Author:** ![ninety1two40](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ninety1two40/32/6332_2.png) [@ninety1two40](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ninety1two40)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 12:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-from-someone-with-an-e36/261564/83 "2011-12-22T12:01:06Z")
Well these aren’t normal relays, the hazard relay and crash module both have transistor logic in them. If you replaced the hazard relay with a known working relay and did not cycle the cars power and/or disconnect the battery there might be a problem. Might want to try that one again. It seems the hazards can work without the crash module. The hazard switch will only flash with the hazards when it’s depressed, no questions. Drive around without the crash module if you can, see if the problem still exists. ---
**Author:** ![Mafdark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mafdark/32/6322_2.png) [@Mafdark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mafdark)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 1:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-from-someone-with-an-e36/261564/84 "2011-12-22T13:23:34Z")
we’ll be trying it again this time killing the power first. I really don’t see any problems with the power going to the relay do you? ---
**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 2:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-from-someone-with-an-e36/261564/85 "2011-12-22T14:30:00Z")
Just pull the bulbs and use hand signals / thread fuckin noobs ---
**Author:** ![ninety1two40](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ninety1two40/32/6332_2.png) [@ninety1two40](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ninety1two40)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 5:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-from-someone-with-an-e36/261564/86 "2011-12-22T17:46:18Z")
> [@DSLR ordered.. thank you Amazon and thank you JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dslr-ordered-thank-you-amazon-and-thank-you-jays/47402/7): > > we’ll be trying it again this time killing the power first. > > I really don’t see any problems with the power going to the relay do you? It should be fine, but who knows. Like I said its not a regular relay… it has a standard coil and contacts but the coil is controlled with transistors and other circuitry. Anyone have schematics of the internals of the actual hazard relay and crash module? ---
**Author:** ![Mafdark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mafdark/32/6322_2.png) [@Mafdark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mafdark)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 6:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-from-someone-with-an-e36/261564/87 "2011-12-22T18:22:28Z")
Mr. Fizzle stopped over and we gave his relay another go. Sure as shit, it worked just fine. Who knows what I did wrong when I tried it yesterday. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-from-someone-with-an-e36/261564.md?page=4)