# need help QUICK please! **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Automotive\ **Created:** [June 4, 2013, 10:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-quick-please/267142 "2013-06-04T10:52:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 8:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-quick-please/267142/41 "2013-06-05T08:28:32Z")
This is what I said to dave when he sent me the pics as the FedEX guy was waiting to either leave them or take them back… "the one wheel looks like it had an object stuck in between the inside barrel of the wheel and the caliper or a suspension component while the wheel was still rotating. This carved a rather deep grove into the wheel and even distorted (cupped) the section of the wheel’s barrel a few MM’s. This picture with a credit cards’ dead flat edge used as a reference shows the damage to the wheel. The wheel is compromised and being such a high performance wheel for a high performance car this is unsafe. I have seen wheels sheer right in half on cars that had objects get caught in the wheel and cut into the wheel like this.” This is what I said once I had the wheels in my hands. “As you can see there are two crowns formed when the wheel distorted outwards on the barrel from whatever got wedged inside the wheel and the suspension or caliper. That will cause stress risers in the integrity of the rim and can focus driving pressure exerted into the rim to those point which could cause the wheel to fail. Also the gouge cut into the wheel while it isn’t extremely deep, it actually stretched the metal on the opposite side of the impact point and moved metal on the outside barrel surface too. That also creates a very unsafe weak point. This wheel is not fit for the road, especially supporting a $75K Dodge Viper.” Thats what was sent to the seller, and what I told dave my opinion was of them. I put a straight edge on the wheel and can see about 1.5mm of a crown NEXT to the gouge, about .5mm of a raise from the gouge on the outside of the wheel from the outward pressure it saw when the bolt backed out and the caliper hit or a rock was wedged in there. The gouge is about 2mm deep, LESS whatever material was take off when the seller DA sanded and probably filed material off to hide it. My honest opinion is the pics look FAR worse than the wheel is. YES its damaged, I think I gave a very good detailed discription on to what extent. I dont have an engineering or physics degree, and as far as I know Adam (who I said RIGHT FROM SECOND ONE and we he tried to call, is the first person I could think to ask their opinion from) and Mike (Mafdark) are the only ones here with said creds. My opinion doesnt hold a grain of salt to theirs, I know that… but he didnt answer/chime in. I told dave standing at the front of my day job building when he in hast came over to get my opinion with them in my hand becasue he was under the gun to take action with the seller. My opinion, taking in account for dave’s driving, the car and the outstanding strength of that wheel, and seeing cheeper wheels WAY more mangled up bashing through city streets and still rolling they will be ok if hes carefull and smart about them. Without a doubt, the FIRST thing and I said MANY times to dave, it needs a new barrel, and I explained how driving stress will react (with my limited knowledge) and put pressures on the slight crown and the gouge on the rim and what could happen. I was by NO MEANS as lack luster as the Kost tire people who dont know even what car they are going on were by putting my “ok” seal of approval on it. I explained EVERYTHING in my power about them, ball is in his court. ---
**Author:** ![sbardy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8edcca/32.png) [@sbardy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sbardy)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 9:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-quick-please/267142/42 "2013-06-05T09:06:40Z")
the wheel is not that bad in person… end of story. Structurally the wheel is fine, no bends either. its funny that half of you guys own cars that cant even pass inspection or do 150 down the highway in a honda civic but your all of a sudden safety gods. ---
**Author:** ![Yetti\_VR](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/yetti_vr/32/6357_2.png) [@Yetti\_VR](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Yetti_VR)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 9:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-quick-please/267142/43 "2013-06-05T09:10:29Z")
That’s funny because the people posting don’t own any Hondas and certainly don’t have issues with inspection… Cool story though bro thanks ---
**Author:** ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 9:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-quick-please/267142/44 "2013-06-05T09:34:02Z")
I have an inspection ticket to deal with actually, more so becasue I am lazy and YOU MUTHA FUCKERS TAKE ALL MY TIME AWAY SO I CANT GET MY OWN SHIT DONNNNEEE! lol But Sbardy has a point. Put the wheel in your own hands and back it up with some crediablity for your opinion. Last I checked NOBODY here, 150 bomb cars or uninspected Saabs, has a magic 8 ball configured for BBS LM wheels and can say what will or wont happen… its daves car, daves wheel and daves money. I say dave straps that bitch to the car, trailers it straight to Lime Rock, and runs 50 laps, then drives it right home if the wheel doesnt come off. BUT, knowing dave is alot like me… when that fucker splits in two and hes in the kitty litter on turn 1 he has the BALLS to say “yep you were right, I was wrong”. ---
**Author:** ![jdaniels](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jdaniels/32/6399_2.png) [@jdaniels](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jdaniels)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 9:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-quick-please/267142/45 "2013-06-05T09:41:40Z")
Dave Brown is a fuckin’ honey badger. Even if the wheel breaks in 2 pieces, he’ll come out of it unscathed and will undoubtedly make money on the accident. How? I have no fuckin’ idea… it’s just Dave. ---
**Author:** ![ds50r](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ds50r/32/3491_2.png) [@ds50r](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ds50r)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 9:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-quick-please/267142/46 "2013-06-05T09:56:46Z")
yea dave will split the viper in two make a video out of it make bank on youtube with it then sell the viper for mnore then waht he paid for because… dave… that is all haha ---
**Author:** ![love4boost](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/love4boost/32/6658_2.png) [@love4boost](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/love4boost)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 9:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-quick-please/267142/47 "2013-06-05T09:57:32Z")
> [@Unofficial 2008 Olympics thread.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/unofficial-2008-olympics-thread/52893/16): > > Dave Brown is a fuckin’ honey badger. Even if the wheel breaks in 2 pieces, he’ll come out of it unscathed and will undoubtedly make money on the accident. How? I have no fuckin’ idea… it’s just Dave. 1993 Dodge Viper Style: Select a Style… RT/10 Roadster 2D Mileage:16,000 Change pricing photos specs kbb expert review consumer reviews ratings compare See Trade-In/Sell Values Used Car Prices Suggested Retail Private Party Excellent $30,028 :tbu Find Deals Near You See local deals Free VIN Check AutoCheck ---
**Author:** ![sbardy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8edcca/32.png) [@sbardy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sbardy)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 10:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-quick-please/267142/48 "2013-06-05T10:42:36Z")
> [@WTBorrow .. Car trailer](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtborrow-car-trailer/52723/23): > > That’s funny because the people posting don’t own any Hondas and certainly don’t have issues with inspection… Cool story though bro thanks go ride around on the back of ilyas 250. nobody wants you in this thread. ---
**Author:** ![ds50r](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ds50r/32/3491_2.png) [@ds50r](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ds50r)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 10:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-quick-please/267142/49 "2013-06-05T10:43:37Z")
hahahahahaha mussst spread rep!!! hahahaha ---
**Author:** ![Yetti\_VR](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/yetti_vr/32/6357_2.png) [@Yetti\_VR](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Yetti_VR)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 11:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-quick-please/267142/50 "2013-06-05T11:01:03Z")
sorry didn’t mean to offend you with logic and reason… Fuck it… Run it ---
**Author:** ![ds50r](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ds50r/32/3491_2.png) [@ds50r](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ds50r)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 11:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-quick-please/267142/51 "2013-06-05T11:01:47Z")
they were 60 series damn it!! and hes got 45’s on it now ---
**Author:** ![TonyJ124](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tonyj124/32/6380_2.png) [@TonyJ124](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TonyJ124)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 11:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-quick-please/267142/52 "2013-06-05T11:11:46Z")
I’m lost? You wanted opinions then got mad that the majority agrees that it is unsafe? Why can’t a barrel be ordered?? Are these discontinued BBS wheels or something that I’m missing? Have you consulted BBS on their recommended repair? Can the gouge be welded? Good luck with sourcing body panels and fighting off the ATOADASOs that you get when something happens. I just hope nobody gets hurt. ---
**Author:** ![pitman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4da419/32.png) [@pitman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/pitman)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 11:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-quick-please/267142/53 "2013-06-05T11:14:52Z")
> [@2009 wrx and sti](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2009-wrx-and-sti/52910/24): > > Did the guy at least acknowledge the fact that that was shady as fucking hell? what if these end up being wagen wheels. guy is so shady he might be selling a knock off as the real deal ---
**Author:** ![love4boost](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/love4boost/32/6658_2.png) [@love4boost](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/love4boost)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 11:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-quick-please/267142/54 "2013-06-05T11:16:48Z")
> [@THE \*\*iPhone\*\* Thread (GPS, JailBreak, Apps, Etc)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-iphone-thread-gps-jailbreak-apps-etc/52832/124): > > I’m lost? You wanted opinions then got mad that the majority agrees that it is unsafe? > > Why can’t a barrel be ordered?? Are these discontinued BBS wheels or something that I’m missing? Have you consulted BBS on their recommended repair? Can the gouge be welded? > > Good luck with sourcing body panels and fighting off the ATOADASOs that you get when something happens. I just hope nobody gets hurt. are you retarded?? read the thread, im not mad or complaining about anything lol… I asked for advice, got advice from people who saw it in person and decided to run it… Only thing that slightly made me angry was madwabbit sayin you cant ball on a budget which seemed like it was directed towards me… Seems like hed rather see me in a rusted d15 civic with a 6" fart can then a viper with bbs wheels… Find me a single barrel for sale thats not the price I paid for all 4 and ill grab it. ---
**Author:** ![love4boost](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/love4boost/32/6658_2.png) [@love4boost](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/love4boost)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 11:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-quick-please/267142/55 "2013-06-05T11:17:56Z")
> [@FS: '99 Subaru Impreza 2.5rs](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-99-subaru-impreza-2-5rs/47395/33): > > what if these end up being wagen wheels. guy is so shady he might be selling a knock off as the real deal 100% legit, no doubt about it. ---
**Author:** ![deadbeatrec](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deadbeatrec/32/6401_2.png) [@deadbeatrec](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deadbeatrec)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 11:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-quick-please/267142/56 "2013-06-05T11:19:31Z")
> [@FS: 95 Chevy Van](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-95-chevy-van/52732/9): > > 100% legit, no doubt about it. they will have a bbs stamp on the wheel itself. im sure u checked that. ---
**Author:** ![JSEnclosures](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jsenclosures/32/6678_2.png) [@JSEnclosures](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JSEnclosures)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 11:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-quick-please/267142/57 "2013-06-05T11:21:51Z")
fwiw madwabbit does wheel repair… ---
**Author:** ![love4boost](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/love4boost/32/6658_2.png) [@love4boost](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/love4boost)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 11:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-quick-please/267142/58 "2013-06-05T11:22:56Z")
> [@deadbeatrec"](#): > > they will have a bbs stamp on the wheel itself. im sure u checked that. benny is pissed with the amount of time i made him verify, lets put it that way. ---
**Author:** ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 11:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-quick-please/267142/59 "2013-06-05T11:23:19Z")
They are real wheels. Nick is the wheel god… if its not done right he feels like a kitten just got its head chopped off or something. lol He meant these are some SERIOUS ASS WHEELS, if you are to do anything other than chance it as it is now, the right way is to pony up and get a new or used but mint barrel. thats all. ---
**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 11:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-quick-please/267142/60 "2013-06-05T11:25:35Z")
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