# Need help with a car that's NOT mine for a change... **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [November 4, 2008, 5:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-with-a-car-thats-not-mine-for-a-change/57625 "2008-11-04T17:15:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![9ONA3OOZX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/9ona3oozx/32/7242_2.png) [@9ONA3OOZX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/9ONA3OOZX)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 5:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-with-a-car-thats-not-mine-for-a-change/57625/1 "2008-11-04T17:15:21Z")
Figured i’d switch it up a bit and not bitch about my frequent car problems for a change. My friend has a 2000 Pontiac Sunfire with headlight problems. Checked fuses in the fuse panel on the driver side of the dash, they’re fine. Had bulbs replaced. When starting the car, the daytime running lights turn on for about 3 seconds…then flicker for another few seconds, then turn off completely. Will not turn back on. The high beams on the other hand are working fine. When it’s not the headlight itself (if the bulb was shot the daytime’s wouldn’t come on at all), and the fuses are all good…what else should i be checking? ---
**Author:** ![focusinprogress](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/focusinprogress/32/7227_2.png) [@focusinprogress](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/focusinprogress)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 5:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-with-a-car-thats-not-mine-for-a-change/57625/2 "2008-11-04T17:21:22Z")
the headlight switch could be bad, or the relay for the DRL’s could be bad or crappy/dirty connections on either ---
**Author:** ![nitroinsane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/d26b3c/32.png) [@nitroinsane](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/nitroinsane)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 5:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-with-a-car-thats-not-mine-for-a-change/57625/3 "2008-11-04T17:32:58Z")
This melissa car? ---
**Author:** ![sweet89s13](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@sweet89s13](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sweet89s13)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 5:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-with-a-car-thats-not-mine-for-a-change/57625/4 "2008-11-04T17:37:46Z")
check the grounds on the drivers side inner fender wall below the headlight. there is 3 ground wires that get f’d up check em. ---
**Author:** ![9ONA3OOZX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/9ona3oozx/32/7242_2.png) [@9ONA3OOZX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/9ONA3OOZX)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 5:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-with-a-car-thats-not-mine-for-a-change/57625/5 "2008-11-04T17:50:51Z")
Not Melissa’s car joe. It’s another friend’s ---
**Author:** ![greenbull](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc8723/32.png) [@greenbull](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/greenbull)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 5:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-with-a-car-thats-not-mine-for-a-change/57625/6 "2008-11-04T17:50:59Z")
im gonna guess…relay edit~highbeams work? edit again. i need to read completely. ---
**Author:** ![9ONA3OOZX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/9ona3oozx/32/7242_2.png) [@9ONA3OOZX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/9ONA3OOZX)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 9:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-with-a-car-thats-not-mine-for-a-change/57625/7 "2008-11-04T21:15:45Z")
having trouble finding a useful diagram/picture online. where can i find the relay? all i could dig up was this: [http://www.autozone.com/images/cds/gif/large/0900823d80191eed.gif](http://www.autozone.com/images/cds/gif/large/0900823d80191eed.gif) but it really does me no good since i have no idea how to read that, or where on the car itself to find the relay. ---
**Author:** ![ubengineering](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ubengineering/32/5171_2.png) [@ubengineering](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ubengineering)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 9:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-with-a-car-thats-not-mine-for-a-change/57625/8 "2008-11-04T21:17:47Z")
> [@sweet89s13](#): > > check the grounds on the drivers side inner fender wall below the headlight. there is 3 ground wires that get f’d up check em. x2 ALWAYS check grounds, they f-up so much shit ---
**Author:** ![Slopoke](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slopoke/32/7248_2.png) [@Slopoke](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Slopoke)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 10:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-with-a-car-thats-not-mine-for-a-change/57625/9 "2008-11-04T22:07:23Z")
wasnt there a recall on the headlamp relays i know my 99 cavy had one… ---
**Author:** ![Freek](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/freek/32/7357_2.png) [@Freek](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Freek)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 11:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-with-a-car-thats-not-mine-for-a-change/57625/10 "2008-11-04T23:36:03Z")
> [@Slopoke](#): > > wasnt there a recall on the headlamp relays i know my 99 cavy had one… not a recall i’m pretty sure it’s just a TSB about it. i have the lights rigged on my wifes car by jumping … other wise it’s a huge PITA ---
**Author:** ![Carnut](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/carnut/32/7590_2.png) [@Carnut](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carnut)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 11:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-with-a-car-thats-not-mine-for-a-change/57625/11 "2008-11-04T23:42:10Z")
The entire harness needs to be replaced. It’s not cheap.