# Need help with my moms Subie **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Automotive\ **Created:** [October 12, 2009, 7:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-with-my-moms-subie/247509 "2009-10-12T07:38:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Ilya](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ilya/32/6404_2.png) [@Ilya](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ilya)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2009, 7:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-with-my-moms-subie/247509/1 "2009-10-12T07:38:24Z")
Car: 2002 Subaru Legacy L Mileage: ~110,000 Problem: Dad was driving last night with my mom from Cohoes yesterday and the car shuddered, jerked, and made a noise then proceeded to shut off while he was under the I-90/I-787 interchange. I went out there with the battery charger and some tools. I figured I’d take the charger and connect it to see if the car would start, thinking maybe the alternator died and the battery has been dead? Grasp at a straw, I know. Regardless, that wasn’t the issue. The Tranny fluid was low, but I do not think that would cause the car to shut off. Upon trying to start the car on the side of the road, the car cranked, but it was a very interesting sound. You could see/hear the alternator spinning, but it didn’t seem like the motor was trying to start. The sound it made was kind of like a rubbing sound…not really sure how else to explain it. I did not seem like the motor itself was actually cranking. All of the belts on the front of the motor were spinning. Me and my dad think it’s the timing belt after conferring with my brother-in-law in Philadelphia who owns a bodyshop/does some mechanics work on the side. Is our diagnosis correct? We’re going to be tearing it apart today after we both get home from our jobs, so it would help to know (since some of you have subies) if that is the likely issue. My car has a Timing Chain, so this isn’t something I’ll probably ever experience. Thanks! I appreciate any opinion! ---
**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2009, 7:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-with-my-moms-subie/247509/2 "2009-10-12T07:40:26Z")
Bring a fire extinguisher. ---
**Author:** ![Ilya](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ilya/32/6404_2.png) [@Ilya](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ilya)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2009, 7:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-with-my-moms-subie/247509/3 "2009-10-12T07:41:28Z")
:rofl :rofl ---
**Author:** ![Wayne64SS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wayne64ss/32/6365_2.png) [@Wayne64SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wayne64SS)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2009, 7:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-with-my-moms-subie/247509/4 "2009-10-12T07:46:43Z")
i’ve done plenty of timing belts on those boxer subarus, but never one that had already broken. They are cake to do, make sure you get a OEM belt though, the one time i had to get aftermarket it didn’t fit properly and had to return it and get OEM. Fucking people don’t listen. Anyway, does it sound like you’re cranking it with the spark plugs out? like a real fast rrrrrrrr rrrrrrrrrr rrrrrrrrrrrrrr. Like you can’t “hear” the compression? ---
**Author:** ![Ilya](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ilya/32/6404_2.png) [@Ilya](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ilya)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2009, 7:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-with-my-moms-subie/247509/5 "2009-10-12T07:47:24Z")
Uhm…yes. It’s like a wooshhhhh wooooshhhhh sound almost…like metal on metal rubbing/sanding. I dunno, I hate describing car sounds on a forum. lol. It’s hard. I’ll let my dad know to get an OEM belt. ---
**Author:** ![Shady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6de8d8/32.png) [@Shady](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shady)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2009, 7:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-with-my-moms-subie/247509/6 "2009-10-12T07:49:11Z")
Sounds like it to me… If the belts are spinning then the crank is moving but if it doesnt sound like its trying to fire and its making an “odd” noise then it sounds like thats the case ---
**Author:** ![Wayne64SS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wayne64ss/32/6365_2.png) [@Wayne64SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wayne64SS)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2009, 7:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-with-my-moms-subie/247509/7 "2009-10-12T07:49:20Z")
fucking take a vid real quick and youtube it. then i can tell you better. ---
**Author:** ![Ilya](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ilya/32/6404_2.png) [@Ilya](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ilya)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2009, 7:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-with-my-moms-subie/247509/8 "2009-10-12T07:51:14Z")
I’m not home and I don’t have a camera right now that can take video (got rid of my Point and Shoot canon…my XTi doesn’t take video). ---
**Author:** ![Wayne64SS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wayne64ss/32/6365_2.png) [@Wayne64SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wayne64SS)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2009, 7:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-with-my-moms-subie/247509/9 "2009-10-12T07:52:48Z")
pthththth figures. where is the car now? is anyone at your house? ---
**Author:** ![Ilya](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ilya/32/6404_2.png) [@Ilya](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ilya)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2009, 7:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-with-my-moms-subie/247509/10 "2009-10-12T07:53:57Z")
It’s in Selkirk at home (I have a full garage with lift, tools, etc.). We had it towed by Dotts Garage (Central Ave.) who by the way did a very nice and quick job. Kudos to them. $190 was a bit higher than I wanted, but hey, we had to get it home. We figured bringing it to our home would be better than taking it to my brothers (who’s in Cohoes and closer - meaning less tow $$). ---
**Author:** ![Wayne64SS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wayne64ss/32/6365_2.png) [@Wayne64SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wayne64SS)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2009, 7:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-with-my-moms-subie/247509/11 "2009-10-12T07:58:00Z")
oh shit. that should be cake for you guys then. should only take a few hours. pull the cam cover off and have a look see. ---
**Author:** ![Ilya](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ilya/32/6404_2.png) [@Ilya](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ilya)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2009, 8:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-with-my-moms-subie/247509/12 "2009-10-12T08:03:53Z")
We’re planning to follow the Haynes manual. Should that be sufficient? ---
**Author:** ![Wayne64SS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wayne64ss/32/6365_2.png) [@Wayne64SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wayne64SS)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2009, 8:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-with-my-moms-subie/247509/13 "2009-10-12T08:06:00Z")
yea, fuck, you don’t even need one. those things are rediculously easy. just double check all the timing marks with the book and you’ll be fine. hopefully if it did snap, it didn’t fuck up the valves etc. could go either way. ---
**Author:** ![Ilya](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ilya/32/6404_2.png) [@Ilya](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ilya)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2009, 8:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-with-my-moms-subie/247509/14 "2009-10-12T08:13:56Z")
Okay. I guess we’ll find out. ---
**Author:** ![Wayne64SS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wayne64ss/32/6365_2.png) [@Wayne64SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wayne64SS)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2009, 8:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-with-my-moms-subie/247509/15 "2009-10-12T08:15:10Z")
if you guys decide you’re in over your head give me a call and i’ll come and get that shit DONE. ---
**Author:** ![Ilya](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ilya/32/6404_2.png) [@Ilya](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ilya)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2009, 8:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-with-my-moms-subie/247509/16 "2009-10-12T08:18:46Z")
Okay. We should be able to handle it. We’ve done everything else on our own cars from power steering racks, transmissions, etc. Thanks for the offer Wayne. ---
**Author:** ![Shady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6de8d8/32.png) [@Shady](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shady)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2009, 8:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-with-my-moms-subie/247509/17 "2009-10-12T08:20:46Z")
Waynes good shit He’s also the human torque wrench :lol Wayne… whats the hourly rate to rent you for torquing puproses? I need to make sure my rear end never falls again! ---
**Author:** ![Ilya](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ilya/32/6404_2.png) [@Ilya](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ilya)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2009, 8:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-with-my-moms-subie/247509/18 "2009-10-12T08:22:18Z")
haha. If we do need to call you Wayne, how much would you probably want to finish the job. Just wondering. ---
**Author:** ![Wayne64SS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wayne64ss/32/6365_2.png) [@Wayne64SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wayne64SS)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2009, 8:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-with-my-moms-subie/247509/19 "2009-10-12T08:25:16Z")
no idea, depends how far in you get and what exactly you need me for. keep me posted on how it goes, and if you have questions don’t hesitate to call. advice = free. ---
**Author:** ![Shady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6de8d8/32.png) [@Shady](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shady)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2009, 8:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-with-my-moms-subie/247509/20 "2009-10-12T08:27:12Z")
> [@WTB: Xbox360](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-xbox360/24320/5): > > no idea, depends how far in you get and what exactly you need me for. keep me posted on how it goes, and if you have questions don’t hesitate to call. **advice = free.** Good man, to many people try to bullshit you so they have to come over and then are like okay pay me thissssss :thumbup [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-with-my-moms-subie/247509.md?page=2)