# Need help with my moms Subie

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**Category:** Shift518 Automotive\
**Created:** [October 12, 2009, 7:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-with-my-moms-subie/247509 "2009-10-12T07:38:24Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 6:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-with-my-moms-subie/247509/61 "2009-10-13T18:28:30Z")

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hahahahahah , pull a plug out and feed some rope into the cylinder head threw the plug hole "obv not all of it " so it jams up the piston once it sets try loosesng the crank bolt

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**Author:** ![tdi\_logik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tdi_logik/32/6310_2.png) [@tdi\_logik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tdi_logik)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 6:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-with-my-moms-subie/247509/62 "2009-10-13T18:32:50Z")

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a huuugeeee breaker bar

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**Author:** ![Ilya](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ilya/32/6404_2.png) [@Ilya](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ilya)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 6:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-with-my-moms-subie/247509/63 "2009-10-13T18:57:44Z")

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Hmm John…that sounds like a good idea.

As for breaker bar, we’ve tried that.

We’ve tried a chain wrapped around the pulley a few times, the breaker bar, sticking a long thick piece of metal into the little holes in the pully and trying to ‘lodge’ it against the ground (with a 4x4, etc.) so the pulley wouldn’t spin when trying to break the nut, etc.

We’ll try the rope tomorrow. But after it ‘sets’, how do we get it out? Spin the crank the other way I’m assuming? lol.

Thanks John.

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**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 7:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-with-my-moms-subie/247509/64 "2009-10-13T19:01:01Z")

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yeah spin the crank the other way and pull rope out

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**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-with-my-moms-subie/247509/65 "2009-10-13T19:28:27Z")

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wtf rope

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**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 8:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-with-my-moms-subie/247509/66 "2009-10-13T20:33:48Z")

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yeah ,its soft wont bend or gouge the metal and can easily be taken out

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**Author:** ![Wayne64SS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wayne64ss/32/6365_2.png) [@Wayne64SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wayne64SS)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2009, 5:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-with-my-moms-subie/247509/67 "2009-10-14T05:59:23Z")

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or since it’s an auto, you could just pull the inspection cover off the tranny and hold the flexplate with a prybar while your dad breaks the nut free.

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**Author:** ![ninety1two40](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ninety1two40/32/6332_2.png) [@ninety1two40](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ninety1two40)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2009, 6:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-with-my-moms-subie/247509/68 "2009-10-14T06:36:35Z")

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Just torch the nut off, works 10% all the time.

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**Author:** ![maxwell](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/maxwell/32/6524_2.png) [@maxwell](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/maxwell)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2009, 8:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-with-my-moms-subie/247509/69 "2009-10-14T08:19:40Z")

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> [@FS: Sabres 2/15 vs Edmonton](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-sabres-2-15-vs-edmonton/24423/5):
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> Just torch the nut off, works 10% all the time.

lol

“50% of the time, it works all the time.”

God I love that quote.

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**Author:** ![indy440](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b5ac83/32.png) [@indy440](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/indy440)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2009, 8:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-with-my-moms-subie/247509/70 "2009-10-14T08:50:03Z")

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years ago I was changing a broken timing belt in my mother-in-law’s ford contour. I was doing all the work in her yard with hand-tools only. The harmonic balancer nut would not budge. I used the rope trick to hold the engine from spining, put a breaker bar on the nut, tied a strap to the breaker bar and hooked the other end to the bumper of my truck. I pulled forward a few feet and it broke the nut free.

I swear to god this worked that one time… backyard mechanics at its best… when you don’t have the right tool for the job, make one. It probably would have come loose with a length of pipe on the bar, but I was doing this job in her yard on ramps so there was no room for pipe under the car…

She still has the car and it still runs.

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**Author:** ![Ilya](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ilya/32/6404_2.png) [@Ilya](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ilya)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2009, 11:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-with-my-moms-subie/247509/71 "2009-10-14T11:27:18Z")

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We’ll try the rope and if not, the transmission inspection cover or whatever. I was also told I could remove the starter and lodge something preventing the flywheel from spinning. Is that the same thing?

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**Author:** ![Wayne64SS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wayne64ss/32/6365_2.png) [@Wayne64SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wayne64SS)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2009, 11:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-with-my-moms-subie/247509/72 "2009-10-14T11:49:27Z")

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yes that is exactly the same as what i posted. the inspection cover is going to be your easiest and best route.

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**Author:** ![ninety1two40](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ninety1two40/32/6332_2.png) [@ninety1two40](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ninety1two40)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2009, 11:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-with-my-moms-subie/247509/73 "2009-10-14T11:55:08Z")

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Just be careful not to damage the teeth on the flywheel or bend it.

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**Author:** ![Ilya](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ilya/32/6404_2.png) [@Ilya](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ilya)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2009, 3:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-with-my-moms-subie/247509/74 "2009-10-14T15:05:53Z")

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So, we decided not to do the flywheel method due to risk of f’in up the teeth, etc.

We also didn’t do the rope method because 1) we don’t have a rope big enough to lodge the shaft and 2)

We’ve managed to finally stop the crank pulley from spinning while trying to loosen it (while having a chain, etc. wrapped around it very tight), however…this has already snapped 1 belt (used on our riding lawn mower - pretty thick) and 1 decently thick rope.

This crank pulley is on for life I think.

Does anyone have a chain wrench that would fit on this pulley? Probably like 18inch or so? The book specifically states chain wrench, so there must be something to this things.

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**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2009, 4:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-with-my-moms-subie/247509/75 "2009-10-14T16:59:08Z")

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go buy 3 dollar rope ,or pull rad and all other bolt ons off front of car and use a real impact gun on it .

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**Author:** ![Wayne64SS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wayne64ss/32/6365_2.png) [@Wayne64SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wayne64SS)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2009, 5:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-with-my-moms-subie/247509/76 "2009-10-14T17:40:45Z")

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> [@Above and Beyond - The Guvernment (Pics!!)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/above-and-beyond-the-guvernment-pics/24407/92):
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> So, we decided not to do the flywheel method due to risk of f’in up the teeth, etc.
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> We also didn’t do the rope method because 1) we don’t have a rope big enough to lodge the shaft and 2)
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> We’ve managed to finally stop the crank pulley from spinning while trying to loosen it (while having a chain, etc. wrapped around it very tight), however…this has already snapped 1 belt (used on our riding lawn mower - pretty thick) and 1 decently thick rope.
> 
> This crank pulley is on for life I think.
> 
> Does anyone have a chain wrench that would fit on this pulley? Probably like 18inch or so? The book specifically states chain wrench, so there must be something to this things.

you’re not gonna hurt the flywheel. i’ve done a billion this way.

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**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2009, 5:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-with-my-moms-subie/247509/77 "2009-10-14T17:49:54Z")

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> [@On another topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/24430/21):
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> you’re not gonna hurt the flywheel. i’ve done a billion this way.

so have i ,ever think about takin it to someone that knows what they are doin ? not knockin ya but at this rate you will never know what is up or if its safe

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**Author:** ![Ilya](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ilya/32/6404_2.png) [@Ilya](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ilya)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2009, 5:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-with-my-moms-subie/247509/78 "2009-10-14T17:57:10Z")

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Negative. My dad is old school European. Car will be down for a month but he will be the one fixing it. I could suggest it all I want lol. He ain’t payin anyone to do anything. Shoot, we built a $70,000 garage with just him and my 2 brothers. Not a single contractor was involved. Steel beams welded, cement mixed/poured, electrical, etc.

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**Author:** ![Ilya](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ilya/32/6404_2.png) [@Ilya](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ilya)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2009, 6:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-with-my-moms-subie/247509/79 "2009-10-14T18:00:07Z")

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I think I’ll just talk him into removing the radiator, etc. That’s probably the easiest/safest way.

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**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2009, 6:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-with-my-moms-subie/247509/80 "2009-10-14T18:00:12Z")

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ahhhhhhh got it

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