# Need some tire recommendations **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [March 5, 2016, 5:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-some-tire-recommendations/273674 "2016-03-05T17:30:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![e60oholic](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/e60oholic/32/6228_2.png) [@e60oholic](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/e60oholic)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2016, 5:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-some-tire-recommendations/273674/1 "2016-03-05T17:30:54Z")
I need to get some new tires on my Mini Cooper GP and with all the options looking for some opinions. The stock size is 205/45/17 and I can fit 215/45/17 on it to help protect the rim lips. I need something that is going to be good on the street and a little track use. Have a HDPE event in June then driving across the country to California in july for mini takes the states. I was looking at Pilot Super Sports, Potenza S-04s any other options? I know getting a set of track tires would be best but not sure if i plan on keeping the car after this summer. thanks for you input. ---
**Author:** ![fairgentleman\_Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fairgentleman_z/32/7263_2.png) [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2016, 6:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-some-tire-recommendations/273674/2 "2016-03-05T18:47:02Z")
Direzza ZII or RT-615K But I am biased. ---
**Author:** ![somedude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@somedude](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/somedude)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2016, 8:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-some-tire-recommendations/273674/3 "2016-03-05T20:33:27Z")
> [@fairgentleman Z](#): > > Direzza ZII or RT-615K > > But I am biased. I loved my old 615’s but i didn’t have the 615K which I understand to be quite a bit better. I used them both at the street and track and they held up great . ---
**Author:** ![stuiephoto](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/stuiephoto/32/6070_2.png) [@stuiephoto](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/stuiephoto)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2016, 8:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-some-tire-recommendations/273674/4 "2016-03-05T20:47:09Z")
I’ve had great luck with direzza z2s. They wear like iron and are pretty sticky. ---
**Author:** ![e60oholic](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/e60oholic/32/6228_2.png) [@e60oholic](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/e60oholic)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2016, 1:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-some-tire-recommendations/273674/5 "2016-03-06T13:35:33Z")
> [@stuiephoto](#): > > I’ve had great luck with direzza z2s. They wear like iron and are pretty sticky. wear like iron? they seem to have a low tread rating at 200. What kind of mileage were you getting out of them? Did you track them at all? they seem to be the same price point as the PSS. ---
**Author:** ![fairgentleman\_Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fairgentleman_z/32/7263_2.png) [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2016, 2:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-some-tire-recommendations/273674/6 "2016-03-06T14:49:06Z")
I had it figured out better at one point, with proper alignment & rotation Zii and RT615K should both last 48+ hours in race conditions, so 3,500-4,000 + race miles and 0 street miles? There is a really long review on tire rack from some guy with a RX8, he did street miles and 24 track days (2 hours per track day would be my assumption) = 8,000 total for him. [http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Dunlop&tireModel=Direzza+ZII](http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Dunlop&tireModel=Direzza+ZII) Usually auto-x guys get 40-50 events and 10,000 - 15,000 miles out of them. How many HPDEs are you doing? ---
**Author:** ![manhagen](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/manhagen/32/7336_2.png) [@manhagen](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/manhagen)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2016, 3:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-some-tire-recommendations/273674/7 "2016-03-06T15:24:32Z")
Kait got about 8000 miles out of a set of Direzzas, and almost 20000 on a set a few years ago. Different cars, both were really low. ---
**Author:** ![MR.TWOSINISTER](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mr.twosinister/32/6198_2.png) [@MR.TWOSINISTER](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MR.TWOSINISTER)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2016, 3:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-some-tire-recommendations/273674/8 "2016-03-06T15:28:16Z")
ive had good experiences with a few different sets of direzzas ---
**Author:** ![e60oholic](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/e60oholic/32/6228_2.png) [@e60oholic](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/e60oholic)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2016, 6:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-some-tire-recommendations/273674/9 "2016-03-06T18:23:57Z")
I have one HPDE planned then whatever Mini has us doing at the track in California. I don’t mind buying another set before the trip i just don’t want a set of tires that will be bald after 5000 miles of city driving. ---
**Author:** ![Josh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/45deac/32.png) [@Josh](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Josh)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2016, 8:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-some-tire-recommendations/273674/10 "2016-03-06T20:00:48Z")
Bridgestone RE71R or BF Goodrich Rival S. next question? ---
**Author:** ![stuiephoto](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/stuiephoto/32/6070_2.png) [@stuiephoto](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/stuiephoto)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2016, 11:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-some-tire-recommendations/273674/11 "2016-03-06T23:25:18Z")
> [@e60oholic](#): > > wear like iron? they seem to have a low tread rating at 200. What kind of mileage were you getting out of them? Did you track them at all? they seem to be the same price point as the PSS. Wear like iron for the TW rating. I did OLOA in a set. They did 6000+ street miles, 5 track events and still have about 40% tread. I agree that a rival-s or re71r will be a faster track tire but they do wear faster as well. For a dual purpose tire, I’d go with the z2 star spec or the rs3v2. I’m most likely putting z2’s on the vette. ---
**Author:** ![EvoMR](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/evomr/32/7186_2.png) [@EvoMR](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/EvoMR)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2016, 4:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-some-tire-recommendations/273674/12 "2016-03-07T04:11:54Z")
> [@Josh](#): > > Bridgestone RE71R or BF Goodrich Rival S. > > next question? I put a set of the BFG Rival on my GTR and have been very happy with them thus far. ---
**Author:** ![fairgentleman\_Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fairgentleman_z/32/7263_2.png) [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2016, 4:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-some-tire-recommendations/273674/13 "2016-03-07T04:23:50Z")
Actually, if all you are doing is ONE track event then the Direzza Z102 is a better option. They are $53 cheaper each. They will last longer on the street. They provide adequate grip on the track. I’ve intentional put drivers that I was training on “bad” all seasons with favorable results, Z102 are much much better in this regard. I’ve seen other LeMons teams compete on Z101/Z102. They do not have the 10/10ths grip of the ZII, but they still are adequate for race conditions, they will audibly communicate better than ZII which is ideal for less experienced drivers. The only thing I’d recommend is try to get in 2 tire rotations before the HPDE and try to do one tire rotation in the middle of the day, but that is if you want the wear evenly and last a few years. If you don’t care if they last then don’t rotate and they still will probably be fine. ---
**Author:** ![e60oholic](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/e60oholic/32/6228_2.png) [@e60oholic](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/e60oholic)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2016, 6:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-some-tire-recommendations/273674/14 "2016-03-07T06:21:47Z")
> [@fairgentleman Z](#): > > Actually, if all you are doing is ONE track event then the Direzza Z102 is a better option. > > They are $53 cheaper each. > They will last longer on the street. > They provide adequate grip on the track. > > I’ve intentional put drivers that I was training on “bad” all seasons with favorable results, Z102 are much much better in this regard. I’ve seen other LeMons teams compete on Z101/Z102. They do not have the 10/10ths grip of the ZII, but they still are adequate for race conditions, they will audibly communicate better than ZII which is ideal for less experienced drivers. The only thing I’d recommend is try to get in 2 tire rotations before the HPDE and try to do one tire rotation in the middle of the day, but that is if you want the wear evenly and last a few years. If you don’t care if they last then don’t rotate and they still will probably be fine. These sound perfect for me, just placed an order for them on tire rack. thanks! ---
**Author:** ![93dx\_hatch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/90ced4/32.png) [@93dx\_hatch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/93dx_hatch)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2016, 6:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-some-tire-recommendations/273674/15 "2016-03-07T06:28:53Z")
any feedback on Falken azenis Fk 453? Seems good from what I have read. ---
**Author:** ![fairgentleman\_Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fairgentleman_z/32/7263_2.png) [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2016, 6:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-some-tire-recommendations/273674/16 "2016-03-07T06:49:22Z")
> [@93dx--hatch](#): > > any feedback on Falken Fk 453? Seems good from what I have read. I am trying to get RT615K this year, but I too would like to try out the FK453. I’m not sure but they _might_ be the Z102 twin. hmmmmm… ---
**Author:** ![93dx\_hatch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/90ced4/32.png) [@93dx\_hatch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/93dx_hatch)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2016, 6:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-some-tire-recommendations/273674/17 "2016-03-07T06:54:46Z")
They almost half the price of the Pilot Super Sports I have now, I think I am going to give them a go.