# Need to copy a floppy "master"

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**Created:** [October 5, 2009, 8:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-to-copy-a-floppy-master/74432 "2009-10-05T08:22:16Z")\
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**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2009, 8:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-to-copy-a-floppy-master/74432/1 "2009-10-05T08:22:16Z")

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I have a 3.5" floppy master disk for some software that is a PITA.

I had a disk go bad and get replaced my the manf. but I want to make a copy of it for safe keeping so that I can avoid such delays in the future.

The entire purpose of the floppy is copy protection, so what software would be best to duplicate it?

I found a copy of “copyQM” but I have not tried it yet.  
Anything that might be better for this?

Thanks.

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**Author:** ![boxxa](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxxa/32/5045_2.png) [@boxxa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boxxa)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2009, 8:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-to-copy-a-floppy-master/74432/2 "2009-10-05T08:30:04Z")

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What software is it?

Is it a key disk or does the disk use a method of changing the address marks?

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**Post date:** [October 5, 2009, 8:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-to-copy-a-floppy-master/74432/3 "2009-10-05T08:40:37Z")

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The disk holds the license file and transfers/removes it from one PC so you can put it on another.

Its Allen badley software.

I’m trying copyqm now…  
Silly dos programs.

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**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2009, 8:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-to-copy-a-floppy-master/74432/4 "2009-10-05T08:53:27Z")

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nope… apparently copyQM does not see the disc.

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**Post date:** [October 5, 2009, 9:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-to-copy-a-floppy-master/74432/5 "2009-10-05T09:35:46Z")

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Do you want me to order you one?

I am an Allen Bradley distributor.

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**Post date:** [October 5, 2009, 10:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-to-copy-a-floppy-master/74432/6 "2009-10-05T10:00:59Z")

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I can get free replacements when they go bad, but I would rather have an extra stashed away in my desk if I need it.

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**Post date:** [October 5, 2009, 11:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-to-copy-a-floppy-master/74432/7 "2009-10-05T11:37:07Z")

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I can get free replacements when they go bad, but I would rather have an extra stashed away in my desk if I need it.

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I would be more worried about finding another computer with a floppy drive if that goes bad. I haven’t seen a computer with one in years. What can you put on a 1.5 MB drive now anyways?

:lol:

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**Post date:** [October 5, 2009, 11:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-to-copy-a-floppy-master/74432/8 "2009-10-05T11:40:53Z")

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you can try DOS command called “diskcopy.” it’s pretty low level, so, it might work.

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**Post date:** [October 5, 2009, 12:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-to-copy-a-floppy-master/74432/9 "2009-10-05T12:28:07Z")

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I had to steal… I mean borrow Fry’s usb floppy for my shenangans.

Any other software that might let me make an image of the drive?

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**Post date:** [October 5, 2009, 12:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-to-copy-a-floppy-master/74432/10 "2009-10-05T12:37:31Z")

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Ya create a direct bit copy of the floppy. You can do it with CDs and I am sure you can do it with a floppy. This way you can keep the image on your PC and make a new floppy when needed.

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**Post date:** [October 5, 2009, 12:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-to-copy-a-floppy-master/74432/11 "2009-10-05T12:39:05Z")

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And how might one do that?

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**Post date:** [October 5, 2009, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-to-copy-a-floppy-master/74432/12 "2009-10-05T13:05:31Z")

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I’ve always done it in Linux and its: dd if=/dev/fd0 of=somefile.img

Would need to research how to do it in Windows.

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**Post date:** [October 5, 2009, 1:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-to-copy-a-floppy-master/74432/13 "2009-10-05T13:26:04Z")

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can I do it with Knoppix?

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**Post date:** [October 5, 2009, 1:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-to-copy-a-floppy-master/74432/14 "2009-10-05T13:31:51Z")

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Ya. If you load up the linux live cd just open a terminal as root and run it.

Point the “if” to the device of your floppy drive and then point “of” to where you want the image.

Post the results becuase I am interested if it will copy it bit for bit which should catch the file system bit key changes.

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**Post date:** [October 5, 2009, 6:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-to-copy-a-floppy-master/74432/15 "2009-10-05T18:00:26Z")

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I used to use WinImage to make an disk images.

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**Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 6:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-to-copy-a-floppy-master/74432/16 "2009-10-06T06:25:23Z")

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I was going to try winimage, but I the site is blocked @ work ☹
