# Need to use a garage tonight.

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-to-use-a-garage-tonight/261052>\
**Category:** Shift518 Automotive\
**Created:** [October 27, 2011, 9:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-to-use-a-garage-tonight/261052 "2011-10-27T09:50:29Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![10secondC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/10secondc/32/6715_2.png) [@10secondC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/10secondC)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 7:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-to-use-a-garage-tonight/261052/21 "2011-10-27T19:37:24Z")

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> [@Turbo S2K in area...???](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbo-s2k-in-area/46261/12):
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> Still using the high tech bfny cap.

you better find an oil cap before you go wot cause he bfny cap will blow off on the first WOT pull you make. There is more pressure in a crank case than you would believe…even with good rings and a working PCV.

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**Author:** ![Nismo\_575](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nismo_575/32/6659_2.png) [@Nismo\_575](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nismo_575)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 7:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-to-use-a-garage-tonight/261052/22 "2011-10-27T19:44:06Z")

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To bad it’s no longer a Chevelle… I’d like to find a true '67-68 Chevelle SS 396 someday.

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**Author:** ![DeathbyRT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deathbyrt/32/6648_2.png) [@DeathbyRT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DeathbyRT)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 8:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-to-use-a-garage-tonight/261052/23 "2011-10-27T20:32:08Z")

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Wideband will only read 15.0 and just sits at it. Power, ground all good etc. Sensor and wires all brand new. Im lost and frustrated.

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**Author:** ![dsblk93gt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9de053/32.png) [@dsblk93gt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dsblk93gt)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 8:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-to-use-a-garage-tonight/261052/24 "2011-10-27T20:43:42Z")

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> [@FS: 1997 Saturn SC1 Red w/dohc(20k). 5spd. Totaled (not terrible) parts?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-1997-saturn-sc1-red-w-dohc-20k-5spd-totaled-not-terrible-parts/46100/3):
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> Wideband will only read 15.0 and just sits at it. Power, ground all good etc. Sensor and wires all brand new. Im lost and frustrated.

Did you get the right sensor? Are you sure the gauge is 100% working?

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**Author:** ![DeathbyRT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deathbyrt/32/6648_2.png) [@DeathbyRT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DeathbyRT)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 8:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-to-use-a-garage-tonight/261052/25 "2011-10-27T20:47:14Z")

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Yep. Erik picked it out. Came directly from autometer.

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**Author:** ![Nismo\_575](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nismo_575/32/6659_2.png) [@Nismo\_575](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nismo_575)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 8:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-to-use-a-garage-tonight/261052/26 "2011-10-27T20:57:44Z")

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How long have you let it run? At idle I have seen them around 14.7-15

Let it get hot and rev it some… Give it a good tap! Is there a controller for this gauge?

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**Author:** ![dsblk93gt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9de053/32.png) [@dsblk93gt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dsblk93gt)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 8:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-to-use-a-garage-tonight/261052/27 "2011-10-27T20:58:06Z")

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> [@callout:ericvw v. cky89](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/callout-ericvw-v-cky89/45965/278):
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> Yep. Erik picked it out. Came directly from autometer.

I went and double checked the #'s it takes the same one my old wideband did (WMS) They sell 2 different ones that are the same connector but length is different. I’m guessing the gauge is junk…:dunno

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**Author:** ![DeathbyRT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deathbyrt/32/6648_2.png) [@DeathbyRT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DeathbyRT)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 9:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-to-use-a-garage-tonight/261052/28 "2011-10-27T21:01:42Z")

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I checked all little prongs on the back etc. Everythings fine looking. Im going to just have to order a new one i think. Gonna try a couple other things tomorrow. Sucks.

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**Author:** ![Nismo\_575](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nismo_575/32/6659_2.png) [@Nismo\_575](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nismo_575)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 9:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-to-use-a-garage-tonight/261052/29 "2011-10-27T21:05:24Z")

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You may also need to check voltage. It should state in the instructions how to setup?

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**Author:** ![DeathbyRT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deathbyrt/32/6648_2.png) [@DeathbyRT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DeathbyRT)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 9:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-to-use-a-garage-tonight/261052/30 "2011-10-27T21:09:33Z")

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I really am at a loss right now. It originally worked fine when i had it hooked up this same exact way. I have no clue.

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**Author:** ![TurboTravis](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbotravis/32/6406_2.png) [@TurboTravis](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TurboTravis)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 10:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-to-use-a-garage-tonight/261052/31 "2011-10-27T22:18:02Z")

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> [@FS: 1997 Saturn SC1 Red w/dohc(20k). 5spd. Totaled (not terrible) parts?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-1997-saturn-sc1-red-w-dohc-20k-5spd-totaled-not-terrible-parts/46100/3):
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> Wideband will only read 15.0 and just sits at it. Power, ground all good etc. Sensor and wires all brand new. Im lost and frustrated.

Junk wideband-only good readily available units on the market are Zeitronix and Motec. Zeitronix is ~300 bucks, Motec is like 1800.

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**Author:** ![Nismo\_575](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nismo_575/32/6659_2.png) [@Nismo\_575](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nismo_575)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 10:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-to-use-a-garage-tonight/261052/32 "2011-10-27T22:35:42Z")

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I like Innovate

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**Author:** ![TurboTravis](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbotravis/32/6406_2.png) [@TurboTravis](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TurboTravis)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 10:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-to-use-a-garage-tonight/261052/33 "2011-10-27T22:38:44Z")

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> [@callout:ericvw v. cky89](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/callout-ericvw-v-cky89/45965/282):
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> I like Innovate

Garbage, sorry. Would not use if it was given to me.

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**Author:** ![Nismo\_575](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nismo_575/32/6659_2.png) [@Nismo\_575](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nismo_575)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 11:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-to-use-a-garage-tonight/261052/34 "2011-10-27T23:04:54Z")

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They self calibrate for increased accuracy.

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**Author:** ![TurboTravis](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbotravis/32/6406_2.png) [@TurboTravis](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TurboTravis)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 11:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-to-use-a-garage-tonight/261052/35 "2011-10-27T23:14:35Z")

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> [@SOLD: 1997 Honda Civic CX Hatchback](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sold-1997-honda-civic-cx-hatchback/46238/7):
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> They self calibrate for increased accuracy.

Last time I installed an Innovate (friends car a couple months ago), the system required free air calibration. ANY wideband that requires a ‘free air calibration’ is GARBAGE. But, there are more things than just that which determines if a wideband is good or not. For example, take the AEM-garbage, but does not require free air calibration.

Motec PLM vs junk Innovate

[ame][http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iyw8p1JB7E[/ame]](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iyw8p1JB7E%5B/ame%5D)

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**Author:** ![10secondC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/10secondc/32/6715_2.png) [@10secondC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/10secondC)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2011, 5:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-to-use-a-garage-tonight/261052/36 "2011-10-28T05:46:28Z")

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Nick I told you last night I have seen this before on the autometer. It’s gonna wind up being a setting on the gauge if everything else truly checks ok. Biggest thing is make sure you have a good ground…what did you ground it to? You should have only hooked up power and ground.The rest gets taped off.

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**Author:** ![DeathbyRT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deathbyrt/32/6648_2.png) [@DeathbyRT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DeathbyRT)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2011, 6:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-to-use-a-garage-tonight/261052/37 "2011-10-28T06:04:33Z")

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Ground is to the bolt on that metal plate. Power is to lighter. Did it the same way you had it the first time.

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**Author:** ![10secondC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/10secondc/32/6715_2.png) [@10secondC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/10secondC)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2011, 6:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-to-use-a-garage-tonight/261052/38 "2011-10-28T06:08:48Z")

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ok…make sure 02 plug is tight. After that it’s a gauge setting.

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**Author:** ![jdaniels](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jdaniels/32/6399_2.png) [@jdaniels](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jdaniels)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2011, 6:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-to-use-a-garage-tonight/261052/39 "2011-10-28T06:11:50Z")

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> [@callout:ericvw v. cky89](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/callout-ericvw-v-cky89/45965/282):
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> I like Innovate

They’re cheap, that’s about it.

> [@WTB: Complete honda engine...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-complete-honda-engine/46242/12):
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> Garbage, sorry. Would not use if it was given to me.

I tried giving mine away, no one wanted it.

> [@SOLD: 1997 Honda Civic CX Hatchback](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sold-1997-honda-civic-cx-hatchback/46238/7):
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> They self calibrate for increased accuracy.

:rofl

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**Author:** ![ninety1two40](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ninety1two40/32/6332_2.png) [@ninety1two40](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ninety1two40)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2011, 6:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-to-use-a-garage-tonight/261052/40 "2011-10-28T06:21:59Z")

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My Innovate sensor burnt out in just over a year (10k miles), it’s not even close to the turbo. POS

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