# Neighborhood watch leader shoots FL teen

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**Category:** Shift518 Off Topic\
**Created:** [March 24, 2012, 12:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/neighborhood-watch-leader-shoots-fl-teen/263127 "2012-03-24T12:43:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![GearheadNY.com](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de053/32.png) [@GearheadNY.com](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GearheadNY.com)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 6:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/neighborhood-watch-leader-shoots-fl-teen/263127/201 "2013-07-16T06:57:46Z")

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Ever hear of a one punch homocide? It happens, and that’s all it takes. Guys life was in danger and he protected himself.

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**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 9:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/neighborhood-watch-leader-shoots-fl-teen/263127/202 "2013-07-16T09:40:57Z")

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I have made someone go to sleep on 2/3 baby hits

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**Author:** ![JSEnclosures](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jsenclosures/32/6678_2.png) [@JSEnclosures](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JSEnclosures)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2013, 6:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/neighborhood-watch-leader-shoots-fl-teen/263127/203 "2013-07-18T06:59:36Z")

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had to bump this for anyone who thinks a 17 year old couldn’t have killed him. Dude is a lot bigger than the 12 year old child in the picture they keep showing you on tv

> **[Reagan Coalition](https://reagancoalition.com/articles/2013/20130717004-footage-media.html)**
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> Reagan Coalition Blog

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**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2013, 1:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/neighborhood-watch-leader-shoots-fl-teen/263127/204 "2013-07-18T13:17:32Z")

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> [@The "Oil Prices" thread.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-oil-prices-thread/44739/1127):
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> had to bump this for anyone who thinks a 17 year old couldn’t have killed him. Dude is a lot bigger than the 12 year old child in the picture they keep showing you on tv
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> [http://www.reagancoalition.com/articles/2013/20130717004-footage-media.html](http://www.reagancoalition.com/articles/2013/20130717004-footage-media.html)

Once again, nobody said that he “couldn’t” have killed him.

I’m still waiting for the numbers of 17 year olds jumping and killing others by hand, randomly with no motive. According to some it happens “all the time”.

Beating somebody up to the point of them being knocked out is even damn likely, but where is the motive to go the extra mile? People _don’t just do things._There is always a rhyme and reason aka motive, none of these internet experts who’ve been following the case closely explained this to me yet.

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**Author:** ![PJB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pjb/32/6389_2.png) [@PJB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PJB)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2013, 1:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/neighborhood-watch-leader-shoots-fl-teen/263127/205 "2013-07-18T13:22:07Z")

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look at the 15 and 16 year old in Amsterdam that killed two kids and cut their hands off

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**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2013, 2:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/neighborhood-watch-leader-shoots-fl-teen/263127/206 "2013-07-18T14:16:37Z")

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> [@Unofficial 2008 Olympics thread.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/unofficial-2008-olympics-thread/52893/87):
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> look at the 15 and 16 year old in Amsterdam that killed two kids and cut their hands off

Ok - link?

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**Author:** ![Yetti\_VR](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/yetti_vr/32/6357_2.png) [@Yetti\_VR](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Yetti_VR)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2013, 2:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/neighborhood-watch-leader-shoots-fl-teen/263127/207 "2013-07-18T14:47:06Z")

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come on vlad you google warrior everything you cant find some news links of kids killing people… However its not shown as much to hide the identity of minors…

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**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2013, 3:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/neighborhood-watch-leader-shoots-fl-teen/263127/208 "2013-07-18T15:03:37Z")

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Ding ding ding . The whole y/o statute and minor laws prevent a lot of us finding out about crimes minors under 18 have committed

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**Author:** ![PJB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pjb/32/6389_2.png) [@PJB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PJB)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2013, 4:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/neighborhood-watch-leader-shoots-fl-teen/263127/209 "2013-07-18T16:26:41Z")

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> [@Spring Compressor](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/spring-compressor/53163/9):
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> Ok - link?

[http://www.news10.com/story/22816630/amsterdam-teens-sentenced-in-double-murder](http://www.news10.com/story/22816630/amsterdam-teens-sentenced-in-double-murder)

The part about the cut off hands was in the Gazette last week.

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**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2013, 4:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/neighborhood-watch-leader-shoots-fl-teen/263127/210 "2013-07-18T16:29:12Z")

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> [@Boston area cruise earlier last month](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/boston-area-cruise-earlier-last-month/53132/11):
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> Once again, nobody said that he “couldn’t” have killed him.
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> I’m still waiting for the numbers of 17 year olds jumping and killing others by hand, randomly with no motive. According to some it happens “all the time”.
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> Beating somebody up to the point of them being knocked out is even damn likely, but **where is the motive to go the extra mile? People _don’t just do things._** There is always a rhyme and reason aka motive, none of these internet experts who’ve been following the case closely explained this to me yet.

That is where you are false. If people didn’t just ‘do things’ you’d have no such thing as impulse buys, crimes of passion, etc… LOTS of things happen in the moment, and until you’re in the moment, seeing red, you won’t realize it. That’s why in a lot of murder or manslaughter trials, you hear of people claiming they blacked out or they don’t remember. Adrenaline does very crazy things.

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**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2013, 4:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/neighborhood-watch-leader-shoots-fl-teen/263127/211 "2013-07-18T16:49:57Z")

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> [@On another topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/52032/97):
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> That is where you are false. If people didn’t just ‘do things’ you’d have no such thing as impulse buys, crimes of passion, etc… LOTS of things happen in the moment, and until you’re in the moment, seeing red, you won’t realize it. That’s why in a lot of murder or manslaughter trials, you hear of people claiming they blacked out or they don’t remember. Adrenaline does very crazy things.

No.

Things happen in the moment because there a person has weighted the options and came out with the one that gives him most benefit at that time.

Impulse buys is because you really want that item at the last moment. It’s not like you walk by the register and without any control at all your body just grabs the items and you purchase it. Right?

You are 100% correct. People claim that there are chemtrails, ghosts, aliens etc and support their view 100% even when the life behind bars isn’t on the line. Fuck if I was on trial for murder and had no other excuse too, I’d claim I blacked out and “just did it” too, maybe even claim that Nike told me to do so subliminally, doesn’t make it true.

There is a rhyme and reason behind every act you do, if there wasn’t… guess what you wouldn’t do it.

Name 3 things you did in recent years that you had no control over or had any reason to do?

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**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2013, 4:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/neighborhood-watch-leader-shoots-fl-teen/263127/212 "2013-07-18T16:55:29Z")

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Shit the world would be a fun and interesting place if people “just did things” :rofl

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**Author:** ![JSEnclosures](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jsenclosures/32/6678_2.png) [@JSEnclosures](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JSEnclosures)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2013, 4:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/neighborhood-watch-leader-shoots-fl-teen/263127/213 "2013-07-19T04:48:05Z")

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It’s called “in the moment” because people don’t weight their options you dumb fuck

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**Author:** ![capitalcrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e79b87/32.png) [@capitalcrew](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/capitalcrew)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2013, 5:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/neighborhood-watch-leader-shoots-fl-teen/263127/214 "2013-07-19T05:09:12Z")

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Lol @ vlad thinking people are rational.

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**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2013, 5:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/neighborhood-watch-leader-shoots-fl-teen/263127/215 "2013-07-19T05:10:46Z")

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> [@Tech support takes alot of patience...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tech-support-takes-alot-of-patience/52090/155):
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> Lol @ vlad thinking people are rational.

In their own mind every person thinks they are rational…

They just think everybody else is irrational particularly because they (others) disagree with their own views which they consider right.

LOL at not understanding elementary principles.

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**Author:** ![JSEnclosures](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jsenclosures/32/6678_2.png) [@JSEnclosures](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JSEnclosures)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2013, 5:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/neighborhood-watch-leader-shoots-fl-teen/263127/216 "2013-07-19T05:38:46Z")

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> [@The Official Nyspeed Photo Hunt v.3rd times a charm](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-nyspeed-photo-hunt-v-3rd-times-a-charm/53165/20):
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> No.
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> Things happen in the moment because there a person has weighted the options and came out with the one that gives him most benefit at that time.

i’ll post this again, in nicer words, because you deleted my post…

It’s called IN THE MOMENT because people DO NOT weight their options.

Now go google some liberal article and post it up because you cannot think for yourself

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**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2013, 5:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/neighborhood-watch-leader-shoots-fl-teen/263127/217 "2013-07-19T05:50:58Z")

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> [@kid tries to scam shop for 16K worth of work.....](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/kid-tries-to-scam-shop-for-16k-worth-of-work/53166/11):
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> i’ll post this again, in nicer words, because you deleted my post…
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> It’s called IN THE MOMENT because people DO NOT weight their options.
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> Now go google some liberal article and post it up because you cannot think for yourself

Wtf is liberal about anything I’m saying. :rofl

You don’t know my political stance or who I voted for, so stop assuming, otherwise I’ll call you a communist for all I care having as much evidence on you as you have on me.

Regardless when you IN THIS MOMEMENT (good band) beat somebody to the point of knocking them out and them laying on the ground unconscious, do you or do you not MAKE A CHOICE to FINISH them and snap there neck vs running away?

Riddle me that batman.

Shit, if you don’t make any choices IN THIS MOMENT, nobody would ever be found guilty in a fight.

I deleted your post for making a personal assault like a kid and breaking a cardinal rule of the forum instead of talking like a real human being. Be glad I didn’t ban you.

Edit: For people that love personal individual responsibility you guys sure you love a random imaginary scapegoat of a person being out of control of their body doing whatever their body wants them to do and them not being responsible for it :ponder

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**Author:** ![capitalcrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e79b87/32.png) [@capitalcrew](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/capitalcrew)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2013, 5:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/neighborhood-watch-leader-shoots-fl-teen/263127/218 "2013-07-19T05:53:13Z")

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There’s vlad’s big ol dick.

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**Author:** ![ninety1two40](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ninety1two40/32/6332_2.png) [@ninety1two40](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ninety1two40)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2013, 5:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/neighborhood-watch-leader-shoots-fl-teen/263127/219 "2013-07-19T05:58:08Z")

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> [@kid tries to scam shop for 16K worth of work.....](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/kid-tries-to-scam-shop-for-16k-worth-of-work/53166/12):
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> There’s vlad’s big ol dick.

Just tryin to wedge itself into any ole hole it can

:rofl

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**Author:** ![JSEnclosures](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jsenclosures/32/6678_2.png) [@JSEnclosures](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JSEnclosures)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2013, 6:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/neighborhood-watch-leader-shoots-fl-teen/263127/220 "2013-07-19T06:06:52Z")

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> [@Madden 09 Xbox 360](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/madden-09-xbox-360/52753/42):
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> Edit: For people that love personal individual responsibility you guys sure you love a random imaginary scapegoat of a person being out of control of their body doing whatever their body wants them to do and them not being responsible for it :ponder

nobody said anything about not be responsible for your own actions. YOU just said that, no one else did

It blows my mind how you do not understand “heat of the moment” and “seeing red” situations. adrenaline kicks in and people go further than they intended to. this doesn’t make them not responsible, no one ever suggested that. But where they intended to just defend themselves from say an attacker they have now killed someone because they just kept swinging and swinging until it ends in a bloody mess and by the time they realize it the attacker is now dead.

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