# Neon Driver Charged - You know him! With Pic **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [June 10, 2008, 9:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/neon-driver-charged-you-know-him-with-pic/49813 "2008-06-10T09:57:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 6:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/neon-driver-charged-you-know-him-with-pic/49813/301 "2008-12-16T06:47:53Z")
> [@Zong](#): > > why the fuck would he take that plea bargain? what else could he be charged with? Originally he was charged with 2 counts of manslaughter in the 2nd degree, but the DA agree to drop those charges after speaking with the family of the two kids that died. More than likely his lawyer suggested to take the plea for a light sentencing recommendation from the DA. > [@NYS Penal Law](#): > > § 125.10 Criminally negligent homicide. > A person is guilty of criminally negligent homicide when, with > criminal negligence, he causes the death of another person. Notice there is nothing about “intent” in that definition. It was going to come down to the DA putting up a bunch of pictures of the crash, testimony about people going 120+ on Transit, and asking the jury the question: “Had Mejak decided not to race, would this crash have still happened?” I wouldn’t want to bet my future on putting that question in front of a jury. ---
**Author:** ![ryanmcell](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ryanmcell/32/7510_2.png) [@ryanmcell](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ryanmcell)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 6:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/neon-driver-charged-you-know-him-with-pic/49813/302 "2008-12-16T06:48:21Z")
> [@Zong](#): > > why the fuck would he take that plea bargain? what else could he be charged with? Going to assume he made a deal otherwise he got the worst attorney possible. ---
**Author:** ![bracketracer](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bracketracer/32/15592_2.png) [@bracketracer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bracketracer)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 6:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/neon-driver-charged-you-know-him-with-pic/49813/303 "2008-12-16T06:59:15Z")
> [@Paulo](#): > > It’s called **feeling** the scene of an accident. Which is illegal. Depends on how old she is. ---
**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 7:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/neon-driver-charged-you-know-him-with-pic/49813/304 "2008-12-16T07:08:39Z")
Haha, damn it. Fixing now… ---
**Author:** ![cobraman04](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cobraman04/32/4963_2.png) [@cobraman04](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cobraman04)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 7:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/neon-driver-charged-you-know-him-with-pic/49813/305 "2008-12-16T07:15:46Z")
> [@ultradriver10000](#): > > This is such a bullshit case. It would be cool if people such as all of the ones on this site, got together and protested outside of the court room, but that would never happen. > > Hell maybe they could change the law to just have the cops shoot anyone street racing, because no one here does it right? > > To you guys who say three strikes and you are out, your just as dumb as he is yourself. Ever get three speeding tickets? > > People who RAPE people get out of jail in less then 20 years. > > 1. Street Racing (which would have been off his record if this didn’t happen.) > > 2. This deal went down. I would have stopped, seen dead people and got the fuck out of dodge. What can I do to help, I’m not a doctor. Oh yah and he didn’t do shit to them, they did it to themselves. Time to wake up America, take a little responsibility in your actions. This includes you home owners who are crying because “they” are taking your home. If you can figure out what you can afford, I hope you have to live on the street for the rest of your life. > > 3. OMG driving with no license. Just for fun, try not driving for one entire weekend. Now imagine doing it for a year+. It would suck donkey dick. Now I’m not saying I would drive with one, but I would probably buy a bike and not register or insure it and just run from the cops, because at this point your already pretty fucked. (If I were super bad ass that is.) > > Oh, and fuck society, everyone is a bunch of crybaby pussies that can’t take responsibility for **their!** actions. It is always someone else’s fault never your own. That’s some heavy bullshit right there. > > [I can no longer get a bucket of cola at McD’s because some fat seahorse sued them. Now I need to get 3 larges, and try to sue them for not remembering my caloric intake and monitoring it for me.] :word: ---
**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 7:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/neon-driver-charged-you-know-him-with-pic/49813/306 "2008-12-16T07:18:24Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > Asking the jury the question: > > “Had Mejak decided not to race, would this crash have still happened?” > > I wouldn’t want to bet my future on putting that question in front of a jury. Neither would I. The general population of this country is a joke. I have totally lost faith in mankind for the most part. On a side note: I do more nitrous runs in my C5 by myself not racing anyone, then racing someone. If someone where to run me at a light though I am more then game. If I was to race my vette into a wall while driving by myself, should my family sue the state for putting up a barrier on the highway? No wait, they should sue the nitrous company for producing a system which would allow a car to smoke tires at 120+. Well in that case, they should sue the tire company for not making a more sticky tire so I wouldn’t have lost control. Well maybe they could sue GM for making a car that can go that fast. Sue New Era for helping me build the beast? Sue the guy that built the car on the assembly line? If he didn’t build it I wouldn’t have died. That is a fact. Sue my dad for boning my mom, making me, whom bought a fast car and crashed it cause mental anguish to the rest of my family? Should my family sue themselves for having feelings? If they didn’t have feelings they wouldn’t care, I guess they are to blame for it all. Get a grip people. > [@Paulo](#): > > And such is the American way apparently. Pathetic. I fucking hate this mentality, Josh. I hate when people can’t go out of their way in the slightest, just because it won’t directly benefit them. That makes for a FANTASTIC society to raise your kids in, huh? Nope I don’t. That is why I engross myself around people and friends which I love and care for. This is why I don’t want my kids to grow up in the east side of buffalo or in some other slum. > [@boardjnky4](#): > > If it is your prerogative to watch a car full of babies burn, then you need serious help. I know it is an exaggeration, but come on man? Could you REALLY live with yourself knowing that couple died and all you could think about was not getting caught? > > What if it was you and your best friend street racing? Then you would surely stop right? So just because it is a stranger, makes it not worth it to stop and see if he is alright? > > It is pretty clear that if the neon driver did not want to race the mustang, the death _ **likely** _ would not have occurred, so it is pretty hard to say that the neon driver was not at fault. Kind of like assisted suicide. If I stand next to a guy who is on the edge of a rooftop and tell him he should jump, I am partially to blame. Actually you are 100% correct. I would really stop. I would stop for anyone. I stop and help people fix their cars on the side of the road who I have never meet before. But I don’t **have** to. I love doing a nitrous pull in my car all buy myself, or next to a viper or Modena, if I die should I blame them for intimidating me with their fancy cars? At the end of the day, it is your car, your choice, Natty ice doesn’t force you to dink and drive. If I see a fggt on top of a building and tell him society would be better off with out you, jump and give someone a job to due and he jumps so be it. Not my fault he was a crazy bastard. ---
**Author:** ![nitroinsane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/d26b3c/32.png) [@nitroinsane](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/nitroinsane)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 7:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/neon-driver-charged-you-know-him-with-pic/49813/307 "2008-12-16T07:18:38Z")
I still think his lawyer is pretty fucking hot. ---
**Author:** ![Zong](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zong/32/7580_2.png) [@Zong](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zong)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 7:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/neon-driver-charged-you-know-him-with-pic/49813/308 "2008-12-16T07:20:02Z")
but he’s definitely getting jailtime? ---
**Author:** ![nitroinsane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/d26b3c/32.png) [@nitroinsane](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/nitroinsane)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 7:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/neon-driver-charged-you-know-him-with-pic/49813/309 "2008-12-16T07:23:58Z")
He was never sentenced yet ---
**Author:** ![cobraman04](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cobraman04/32/4963_2.png) [@cobraman04](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cobraman04)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 7:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/neon-driver-charged-you-know-him-with-pic/49813/310 "2008-12-16T07:24:24Z")
if I decide to race on the street and lose control and crash and die it is MY fault and no one elses i made that decision to race not someone else, this kid shouldnt be held responsible for someone elses choice. ---
**Author:** ![Zong](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zong/32/7580_2.png) [@Zong](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zong)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 7:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/neon-driver-charged-you-know-him-with-pic/49813/311 "2008-12-16T07:28:12Z")
but i mean, with charges like that is there any way to get around jailtime? what am I thinking asking this question to NYSPEED lawyers lol ---
**Author:** ![Viper966](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/viper966/32/7268_2.png) [@Viper966](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Viper966)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 7:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/neon-driver-charged-you-know-him-with-pic/49813/312 "2008-12-16T07:29:29Z")
you guys need to do some reading before you flame out [http://www.buffalonews.com/cityregion/story/524430.html](http://www.buffalonews.com/cityregion/story/524430.html) Judge Thomas P. Franczyk he is considering a sentence ranging from six months of local jail time and five years of probation to a state prison term of up to four years for the deaths of Mark Harhigh, 24, and Melanie Page, 21. Seems right to me… some time could do this kid some good and set an example for all the other kiddies out there ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 7:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/neon-driver-charged-you-know-him-with-pic/49813/313 "2008-12-16T07:30:21Z")
^^ that sounds reasonable. ---
**Author:** ![nitroinsane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/d26b3c/32.png) [@nitroinsane](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/nitroinsane)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 7:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/neon-driver-charged-you-know-him-with-pic/49813/314 "2008-12-16T07:31:00Z")
> [@Zong](#): > > but i mean, with charges like that is there any way to get around jailtime? > > what am I thinking asking this question to NYSPEED lawyers lol I never claim to be a nyspeed lawyer. It depends how the plea bargain works.I do not think they have a minimum mandatory for those charges. ---
**Author:** ![cobraman04](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cobraman04/32/4963_2.png) [@cobraman04](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cobraman04)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 7:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/neon-driver-charged-you-know-him-with-pic/49813/315 "2008-12-16T07:33:28Z")
criminally negligent homicide is a class E felony minimum sent. of 1yr in prison and a max of 3-4yrs ---
**Author:** ![cobraman04](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cobraman04/32/4963_2.png) [@cobraman04](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cobraman04)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 7:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/neon-driver-charged-you-know-him-with-pic/49813/316 "2008-12-16T07:36:04Z")
depending on the judge and lawyers involved he might be able to get it knocked down to a class A misdemeanor which carries a max sentence of 1 yr in county ---
**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 7:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/neon-driver-charged-you-know-him-with-pic/49813/317 "2008-12-16T07:37:09Z")
> [@ultradriver10000](#): > > snip And still arguing against the wrong point lol. It’s not about making sure he gets sued. It’s about punishing him for being such a piece of shit citizen of the US. If he does this and gets away with it, people will continue to think it isn’t their responsibility as not only a US citizen/resident, but as a compassionate HUMAN BEING to stop and help someone in need. ESPECIALLY when they were INVOLVED. ---
**Author:** ![nitroinsane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/d26b3c/32.png) [@nitroinsane](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/nitroinsane)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 7:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/neon-driver-charged-you-know-him-with-pic/49813/318 "2008-12-16T07:38:12Z")
> [@cobraman04](#): > > criminally negligent homicide is a class E felony minimum sent. of 1yr in prison and a max of 3-4yrs That would be hilarious he goes to your jail ---
**Author:** ![cobraman04](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cobraman04/32/4963_2.png) [@cobraman04](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cobraman04)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 7:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/neon-driver-charged-you-know-him-with-pic/49813/319 "2008-12-16T07:40:16Z")
yes it would lol, sadly i doubt he would he would probly come up through wende or elmira ---
**Author:** ![nitroinsane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/d26b3c/32.png) [@nitroinsane](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/nitroinsane)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 7:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/neon-driver-charged-you-know-him-with-pic/49813/320 "2008-12-16T07:48:19Z")
> [@cobraman04](#): > > yes it would lol, sadly i doubt he would he would probly come up through wende or elmira cobraman:Hey when you get out you want to race my mustang?(p.s. this room has no cameras…) [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/neon-driver-charged-you-know-him-with-pic/49813.md?page=15) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/neon-driver-charged-you-know-him-with-pic/49813.md?page=17)