# Neon in SCCA ITA **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [February 9, 2007, 12:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/neon-in-scca-ita/24309 "2007-02-09T12:19:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![OriginalSterm](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/originalsterm/32/4964_2.png) [@OriginalSterm](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OriginalSterm)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2007, 12:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/neon-in-scca-ita/24309/1 "2007-02-09T12:19:33Z")
How competitive can this car be in this class? Being that there are a million Neons in the US, parts have to be readily available and relatively cheap. How reliable are the early ones and what are their weak points? ---
**Author:** ![ImportMuscle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/importmuscle/32/7615_2.png) [@ImportMuscle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ImportMuscle)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2007, 2:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/neon-in-scca-ita/24309/2 "2007-02-09T14:37:13Z")
wheres redconquesttsi when you need him 😛 Well, the parts are readily available, and theyre quite light and handle very well… Now, if im correct,(i might have heard this wrong), but i beleive one weak spot is the valve cover gasket tends to leak with age. Theyre awesome and reliable cars. ID love to rock one as a daily/beater. The DOHC 5 speeds (sport, R/T,ACRs) are decently quick. ---
**Author:** ![fairgentleman\_Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fairgentleman_z/32/7263_2.png) [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2007, 3:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/neon-in-scca-ita/24309/3 "2007-02-09T15:04:35Z")
:lol: for you posting that question here of all places… [http://itforum.improvedtouring.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=9793](http://itforum.improvedtouring.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=9793) It’s my opinion that the lighter SOHC would the way to go. ---
**Author:** ![fairgentleman\_Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fairgentleman_z/32/7263_2.png) [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2007, 3:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/neon-in-scca-ita/24309/4 "2007-02-09T15:23:18Z")
![http://i23.ebayimg.com/04/i/000/89/79/df74_1_b.JPG](http://i23.ebayimg.com/04/i/000/89/79/df74_1_b.JPG) [http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ITA-Dodge-NEON-SCCA-NASA-NR\_W0QQitemZ330085119936QQihZ014QQcategoryZ98064QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem](http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ITA-Dodge-NEON-SCCA-NASA-NR_W0QQitemZ330085119936QQihZ014QQcategoryZ98064QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) I just looked up his times on MyLaps, only showed one race the car placed 3rd, with a pretty good time. The car is easily worth ~$3000 or more. . ---
**Author:** ![OriginalSterm](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/originalsterm/32/4964_2.png) [@OriginalSterm](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OriginalSterm)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2007, 5:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/neon-in-scca-ita/24309/5 "2007-02-09T17:19:35Z")
that’s actually the car I was looking at, the price may be right… ---
**Author:** ![fairgentleman\_Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fairgentleman_z/32/7263_2.png) [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2007, 12:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/neon-in-scca-ita/24309/6 "2007-02-11T12:17:35Z")
> [@fairgentleman Z](#): > > The car is easily worth ~$3000 or more. And I guess a couple other people felt the same way… ---
**Author:** ![intense98rt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/77aa72/32.png) [@intense98rt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/intense98rt)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2007, 1:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/neon-in-scca-ita/24309/7 "2007-02-11T13:44:25Z")
neon is a decent car to autoX. definatly get a manual, the autos are garbage. sohc or dohc weight is pretty much the same. 2 door coupes weigh a little more than the 4 door sedans. i prefer the dohc, but the sohc wouldnt be bad either. the dohc’s come with a 3.94 tranny, the sohc’s come with a 3.55. the 3.94’s are better for n/a neons i would say keep the car stock, competition will be a little harder once you do some mods. if you are going to mod it, do suspenion first. most important… get good tires ---
**Author:** ![OriginalSterm](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/originalsterm/32/4964_2.png) [@OriginalSterm](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OriginalSterm)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2007, 2:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/neon-in-scca-ita/24309/8 "2007-02-11T14:12:08Z")
I thought only the ACR cars came with the 3.94 gears. BTW… the car above was a four door, SOHC, ACR with a refreshed head, and was built for ITA. Tons of spares not listed in the ebay ad, but not raced in over a year. Max bid was $3k knowing that at least the cage would not have met the 2007 safety standards. The search continues… ---
**Author:** ![MXS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mxs/32/7507_2.png) [@MXS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MXS)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2007, 2:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/neon-in-scca-ita/24309/9 "2007-02-11T14:41:19Z")
> [@intense98rt](#): > > neon is a decent car to autoX. this is about Club Racing, not Solo. ---
**Author:** ![fairgentleman\_Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fairgentleman_z/32/7263_2.png) [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2007, 2:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/neon-in-scca-ita/24309/10 "2007-02-11T14:41:59Z")
> [@intense98rt](#): > > the autos are garbage ,and illegal for ITA. > [@intense98rt](#): > > sohc or dohc weight is pretty much the same. Wrong, the SOHC is allowed to weigh 2450, the DOHC must weigh at least 2650. > [@intense98rt](#): > > i would say keep the car stock, competition will be a little harder once you do some mods. How does the competition get harder after doing modifactions to go faster? > [@OriginalSterm](#): > > Max bid was $3k knowing that at least the cage would not have met the 2007 safety standards. It would have taken 6’ of tubing and 19" of weld, even if you had to pay for a professional it would have cost ~$100 to fix. ---
**Author:** ![brent\_strong](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/brent_strong/32/7203_2.png) [@brent\_strong](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/brent_strong)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2007, 2:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/neon-in-scca-ita/24309/11 "2007-02-11T14:55:55Z")
From what I’ve heard from people quite competitive in ITA is that the Neon takes too much of a weight penalty to chase the CRXs well. Reliability should be great. The engines are very low maintenance and solid. ACRs and RTs had the 3.94 with the .81 5th. DOHC cars had a 3.94 with a .72 5th. SOHC cars had a 3.55 with a .72 5th. If you end up with a car, I have a brand new 3.94 diff that you would be able to make use of, if you’re interested. ---
**Author:** ![intense98rt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/77aa72/32.png) [@intense98rt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/intense98rt)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2007, 3:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/neon-in-scca-ita/24309/12 "2007-02-11T15:00:42Z")
My R/T with full interior and a bunch of crap in the trunk weighed 2480. You won’t really gain much power on a neon with bolt-ons. you’ll go from 112whp to maybe 120 if your lucky. all dohc has the 3.94, the acr’s and r/t’s have a different 5th gear. which if your racing and going fast enough to put it in 5th then yes the acr & r/t trans would be better. But if you never use 5th then it really doesnt matter. ---
**Author:** ![Rx3](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rx3/32/7194_2.png) [@Rx3](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Rx3)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2007, 3:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/neon-in-scca-ita/24309/13 "2007-02-11T15:19:15Z")
> [@intense98rt](#): > > My R/T with full interior and a bunch of crap in the trunk weighed 2480. I don’t think you understand. They’re not talking actual weight. It’s the weight _allowed by the sanctioning body_. They will put weight in your car to bring it to spec with the competition rules. > [@fairgentleman Z](#): > > the SOHC is allowed to weigh 2450, the DOHC must weigh at least 2650. ---
**Author:** ![intense98rt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/77aa72/32.png) [@intense98rt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/intense98rt)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2007, 3:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/neon-in-scca-ita/24309/14 "2007-02-11T15:55:47Z")
well in that case, then the sohc would be better off. i wouldnt want to add an extra 200lbs. that’s kind of dumb that they have it set that way. I would understand maybe 100lbs. the dohc isnt that much quicker than the sohc. ---
**Author:** ![RedrRocket](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redrrocket/32/7193_2.png) [@RedrRocket](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RedrRocket)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2007, 4:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/neon-in-scca-ita/24309/15 "2007-02-11T16:00:53Z")
that might be a great use for my car. someday. I didnt know the 4 doors are lighter than the 2 doors. ---
**Author:** ![fairgentleman\_Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fairgentleman_z/32/7263_2.png) [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2007, 4:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/neon-in-scca-ita/24309/16 "2007-02-11T16:13:50Z")
> [@intense98rt](#): > > I would understand maybe 100lbs. the dohc isnt that much quicker than the sohc. But…if you use a pound per horsepwer formula the DOHC is at an advantage. Given stock BHP: SOHC 18.5 #/HP DOHC 17.67 #/HP CRX 21.74 #/HP NX2000 18.04 #/HP ---
**Author:** ![brent\_strong](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/brent_strong/32/7203_2.png) [@brent\_strong](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/brent_strong)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2007, 4:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/neon-in-scca-ita/24309/17 "2007-02-11T16:29:52Z")
Funny thing is, the CRX dominates. Colin Botha ftw. ---
**Author:** ![fairgentleman\_Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fairgentleman_z/32/7263_2.png) [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2007, 4:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/neon-in-scca-ita/24309/18 "2007-02-11T16:46:08Z")
> [@brent\_strong](#): > > Funny thing is, the CRX dominates. Colin Botha **ftw.** You mean **F31st** in 2005 [http://www.arrc-online.com/results\_2005/ARRC2005.RaceGroup4.pdf](http://www.arrc-online.com/results_2005/ARRC2005.RaceGroup4.pdf) And a **FDNS** in 2006. I’m kidding, he has some wins and some impressive quals at the ARRC. But definately not “ftw” as you put.😛 [sackriding]That title doesn’t belong to a Honda at all, what you should have said: “The NX2000 dominates. Greg Amy **FTW** ”[/sackriding] i hate “ftw” ---
**Author:** ![brent\_strong](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/brent_strong/32/7203_2.png) [@brent\_strong](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/brent_strong)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2007, 4:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/neon-in-scca-ita/24309/19 "2007-02-11T16:47:16Z")
Eh, he doesn’t do so much SCCA. NASA ftw. [http://thundervalleyracing.com/archive/topstories/archive/20061001gilio.htm](http://thundervalleyracing.com/archive/topstories/archive/20061001gilio.htm) ---
**Author:** ![intense98rt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/77aa72/32.png) [@intense98rt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/intense98rt)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2007, 5:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/neon-in-scca-ita/24309/20 "2007-02-11T17:28:14Z")
> [@fairgentleman Z](#): > > But…if you use a pound per horsepwer formula the DOHC is at an advantage. Given stock BHP: > > SOHC > 18.5 #/HP > > DOHC > 17.67 #/HP > > CRX > 21.74 #/HP > > NX2000 > 18.04 #/HP True, but the only thing is the dohc is over rated compared to the sohc stock whp is more like: dohc 115-118 sohc 109-113 brings it to dohc 23.04-22.46 #/HP sohc 22.47-21.68 #/HP [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/neon-in-scca-ita/24309.md?page=2)