# Never thought i would say this.......... **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [December 18, 2006, 8:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/never-thought-i-would-say-this/186905 "2006-12-18T20:55:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![77rednecktruck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/77rednecktruck/32/5966_2.png) [@77rednecktruck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/77rednecktruck)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2006, 6:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/never-thought-i-would-say-this/186905/41 "2006-12-21T06:06:58Z")
and ford sold a bunch more mustangs than the camaro, did that make it a better car? ---
**Author:** ![BlkP42E](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blkp42e/32/5938_2.png) [@BlkP42E](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BlkP42E)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2006, 6:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/never-thought-i-would-say-this/186905/42 "2006-12-21T06:18:14Z")
🤣 only if it involves porno red ---
**Author:** ![ShalerPunk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shalerpunk/32/5976_2.png) [@ShalerPunk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ShalerPunk)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2006, 11:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/never-thought-i-would-say-this/186905/43 "2006-12-21T11:53:59Z")
> [@FS mac tools](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-mac-tools/26660/10): > > and ford sold a bunch more mustangs than the camaro, did that make it a better car? no. it means more people were willing to buy one. just like more people are willing to watch/spend money on football ---
**Author:** ![Hycomp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Hycomp](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hycomp)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2006, 1:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/never-thought-i-would-say-this/186905/44 "2006-12-21T13:02:48Z")
> [@240sx transformation](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/240sx-transformation/26384/47): > > no. it means more people were willing to buy one. > > just like more people are willing to watch/spend money on football Hmmm, the almighty steelers in 2005 drew 507,434 fans into Pittsburgh to watch games. The lowly unwanted Pens drew only 647,975. Oh wait, 647,975 \> 507,434 impossible. Make excuses for it however you want, there were more seats sold last year to watch the Pens play in Pittsburgh than the Steelers, and just to make Cutty happy, the Pirates brought in even more than both of them 1,794,237. > **[2005 NFL Football Attendance - National Football League - ESPN](https://www.espn.com/nfl/attendance?year=2005)** > > Find out the 2005 attendance numbers for every NFL football team > **[NHL on ESPN - Scores, Stats and Highlights](https://www.espn.com/nhl/?year=2006)** > > Visit ESPN for NHL live scores, video highlights and latest news. Stream exclusive ESPN+ games and play Fantasy Hockey. > **[2005 MLB Attendance - Major League Baseball - ESPN](https://www.espn.com/mlb/attendance?sort=all_total&year=2005)** > > Check out this 2005 report of MLB attendance sortable by both baseball stadium and team. ---
**Author:** ![ShalerPunk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shalerpunk/32/5976_2.png) [@ShalerPunk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ShalerPunk)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2006, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/never-thought-i-would-say-this/186905/45 "2006-12-21T13:08:16Z")
> [@Get Caged at PMP - New Fox body pics!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/get-caged-at-pmp-new-fox-body-pics/26744/9): > > Hmmm, the almighty steelers in 2005 drew 507,434 fans into Pittsburgh to watch games. The lowly unwanted Pens drew only 647,975. Oh wait, 647,975 \> 507,434 impossible. Make excuses for it however you want, there were more seats sold last year to watch the Pens play in Pittsburgh than the Steelers, and just to make Cutty happy, the Pirates brought in even more than both of them 1,794,237. that is the most retarded argument i’ve ever heard. the steelers fill every seat. ---
**Author:** ![Hycomp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Hycomp](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hycomp)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2006, 1:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/never-thought-i-would-say-this/186905/46 "2006-12-21T13:21:30Z")
> [@Happy Birthday DeviousTSI (Gary Bunch)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/happy-birthday-devioustsi-gary-bunch/26733/26): > > that is the most retarded argument i’ve ever heard. > > the steelers fill every seat. Actually they don’t, only 97.6% by those stats and the Pens aren’t far behind at 93.2%. And before you start whining that the steeler’s have this huge stadium they fill and the pens this little arena to fill just remember that basic supply and demand would tend to dictate that if the Pens played fewer games the demand would tend to go up as the supply of tickets would go down, just as if the Steeler’s played more games the supply of tickets would go up and the demand would go down. ---
**Author:** ![Pewter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pewter/32/5936_2.png) [@Pewter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pewter)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2006, 2:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/never-thought-i-would-say-this/186905/47 "2006-12-21T14:35:15Z")
take how many home games the steelers have to the same amout of pens home games!!! steelers\>pens\>poop\>bucs ---
**Author:** ![Hycomp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Hycomp](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hycomp)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2006, 3:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/never-thought-i-would-say-this/186905/48 "2006-12-21T15:09:20Z")
> [@240sx transformation](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/240sx-transformation/26384/50): > > take how many home games the steelers have to the same amout of pens home games!!! > > steelers\>pens\>poop\>bucs Increase the amount of games the Steelers play and the demand will drop and suddenly they won’t being selling out. This is part of the reason why Heinz field only holds a tad over 60 thousand fans. The NFL wants to keep up demand whether it be real or perceived to keep prices high for both tickets and more importantly television rights. Ever notice how massive soo many college stadiums stadiums are compared to NFL stadiums? Just in the Big Ten alone PSU, OSU and U of M all play at home in front of 100,000+ fans every game, and yet the “Big” NFL stadiums hold 70,000 ish. My point in this is that there is a big picture here and most people like to comment on the small picture such as comparing one event for each team. If the Steeler’s played 20 homes games a year the chances they would sell out all 20 are very doubtful. As is an assumption that they would be able to maintain current high ticket prices. The pens play a ton of games with relatively high ticket prices and still fill their current venue quite well. Cut down the number of games the pens play and most likely attendance would go even higher at the fewer games (if the arena could hold them) or else ticket prices could be raised, if not both. So those who view the Steelers as some almighty draw and the Pens as something much lower need to open their minds a bit more or at least take a couple economics courses. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/never-thought-i-would-say-this/186905.md?page=2)