# New cars VS old **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Automotive\ **Created:** [January 4, 2012, 9:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-cars-vs-old/262148 "2012-01-04T09:50:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Boost\_Creep](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boost_creep/32/6366_2.png) [@Boost\_Creep](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boost_Creep)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2012, 5:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-cars-vs-old/262148/81 "2012-01-06T05:53:28Z")
> [@SOLD delete](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sold-delete/45546/152): > > ^both look horrible > [@negawsklov"](#): > > that a good pic Nice trucks! got em ---
**Author:** ![ninety1two40](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ninety1two40/32/6332_2.png) [@ninety1two40](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ninety1two40)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2012, 5:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-cars-vs-old/262148/82 "2012-01-06T05:56:26Z")
> **[The case of the missing gas mileage](http://news.mit.edu/2011/cars-on-steroids-0104)** > > Automakers have made great strides in fuel efficiency in recent decades — but the mileage numbers of individual vehicles have barely increased. An MIT economist explains the conundrum. ---
**Author:** ![kramerbuccs24](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kramerbuccs24/32/6397_2.png) [@kramerbuccs24](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kramerbuccs24)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2012, 7:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-cars-vs-old/262148/83 "2012-01-06T07:18:58Z")
Just got hella sentimental about the MR2 reading through this thread. I think my whip with a ~240whp NA K series or 3S-GE would be pretty much unbeatable as far as the pure mechanical (no abs, tcs, stm, etc.) fun-to-drive factor goes. I forget how tiny it is in the months I go without seeing it. Other than safety/government influences there is no reason for a 2 seater sports car (not super car) to be any bigger in my opinion. ---
**Author:** ![Skidplate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c2a13f/32.png) [@Skidplate](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Skidplate)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2012, 10:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-cars-vs-old/262148/84 "2012-01-06T10:23:09Z")
> [@\*\*\*\*\*Official: Mighty Meet Thread\*\*\*\*\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-mighty-meet-thread/10918/3774): > > Only one generation apart. B5 (1996-2001.5/02-S4) vs. B6 (2003-3005) B5 taillights \> B6 taillights ---
**Author:** ![Ilya](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ilya/32/6404_2.png) [@Ilya](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ilya)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2012, 11:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-cars-vs-old/262148/85 "2012-01-06T11:16:43Z")
> [@When Having a Bad Day](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/when-having-a-bad-day/47690/60): > > B5 taillights \> B6 taillights Disagree. The rear on the new Audi’s is actually what I like most about the new ones. ---
**Author:** ![swaiknow](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/swaiknow/32/6359_2.png) [@swaiknow](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/swaiknow)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2012, 11:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-cars-vs-old/262148/86 "2012-01-06T11:42:03Z")
> [@Deal or NO Deal. 01 330i, $11,900, 77,104](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/deal-or-no-deal-01-330i-11-900-77-104/47688/16): > > Easy there, the e30 just looks like crap, I’ll take an e36 over an e30 any day. how can you say that!!! I like the e36, but the E30 M3 is just perfect! Small, great looks with the widebody, and I’m sure fun as hell to drive!!! Even TopGear said it’s the best M3 ever. ---
**Author:** ![swaiknow](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/swaiknow/32/6359_2.png) [@swaiknow](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/swaiknow)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2012, 11:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-cars-vs-old/262148/87 "2012-01-06T11:45:59Z")
> [@Why are you into cars?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-are-you-into-cars/47626/106): > > I had a more recent dream of restoring an old 61-62 bubble top GM like an Impala, LeSabre, Delta 88, ect, into a touring machine. People tell me it is a terrible idea cause of how big and heavy these old cars are… > Using the buick as an example, I figure I remove a Iron head and block Nail Head 401 with its iron case power glide or TH400 and replace that with a 6L80 and a 6.2L L92 then the car will weigh the same as my 4th gen F-body with an auto and have another 100hp before a cam, headers, or other mods. > The suspension, interior, and audio will probably make up some of that weight but all things considered the older cars do not have as much going on as new cars do. Maybe it’s just me, and the fact I LOVE old school american steel. But how could you take out the Nailhead!?!?! It is one of the coolest motor’s ever. Right up there with the Hemi’s (original stuff, not the new Polysphere shit) and Flatheads. ---
**Author:** ![AMD\_IS\_THE\_BEST](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/amd_is_the_best/32/6342_2.png) [@AMD\_IS\_THE\_BEST](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AMD_IS_THE_BEST)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2012, 12:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-cars-vs-old/262148/88 "2012-01-06T12:19:47Z")
> [@Scirocco race car](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/scirocco-race-car/47718/11): > > Disagree. The rear on the new Audi’s is actually what I like most about the new ones. He’s not talking about the new Audi’s. B5 \> B6 \< B7+ ---
**Author:** ![KillerBlackbird](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/killerblackbird/32/6525_2.png) [@KillerBlackbird](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KillerBlackbird)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2012, 1:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-cars-vs-old/262148/89 "2012-01-06T13:22:45Z")
> [@IM CALLING YOU OUT FIREHAWK853!!!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/im-calling-you-out-firehawk853/42858/393): > > EXACTLY^ I find myself thinking that more and more everyday > [@Found - Ricer version of the mustang / e-thug picture](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/found-ricer-version-of-the-mustang-e-thug-picture/47658/22): > > God, I was just about to comment on that. > [@IM CALLING YOU OUT FIREHAWK853!!!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/im-calling-you-out-firehawk853/42858/394): > > I say that shit all of the time honestly. :banghead in 25 years: “I remember when I was your age, a god damn Camaro had a V8 and gas was 99 cents a gallon!” Its coming. Old-fuckitis is in its early stages. ---
**Author:** ![REDWGN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redwgn/32/6695_2.png) [@REDWGN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/REDWGN)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2012, 1:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-cars-vs-old/262148/90 "2012-01-06T13:28:35Z")
![http://www.gifsvault.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/8b50e4ca0bd020f3ce2774b947d13cfc1.gif](http://www.gifsvault.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/8b50e4ca0bd020f3ce2774b947d13cfc1.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Johawk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/johawk/32/6284_2.png) [@Johawk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Johawk)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2012, 1:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-cars-vs-old/262148/91 "2012-01-06T13:46:38Z")
> [@Any Soccer Players?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/any-soccer-players/47732/8): > > Maybe it’s just me, and the fact I LOVE old school american steel. But how could you take out the Nailhead!?!?! It is one of the coolest motor’s ever. Right up there with the Hemi’s (original stuff, not the new Polysphere shit) and Flatheads. I too like the steel. Just replacing the iron. If I do get one some day you will have first dibs on the nailhead. ---
**Author:** ![NickAlero](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nickalero/32/6440_2.png) [@NickAlero](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/NickAlero)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2012, 2:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-cars-vs-old/262148/92 "2012-01-06T14:01:32Z")
> [@\*\*\*\*\*Official: Mighty Meet Thread\*\*\*\*\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-mighty-meet-thread/10918/3774): > > **3** 005 Damn they’re gonna run the B6 for that long? :lol ---
**Author:** ![AMD\_IS\_THE\_BEST](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/amd_is_the_best/32/6342_2.png) [@AMD\_IS\_THE\_BEST](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AMD_IS_THE_BEST)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2012, 10:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-cars-vs-old/262148/93 "2012-01-08T22:10:16Z")
> [@It's a bird! It's a Plane! It's SuperMan! No, it's a 100 spoke wheel](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/its-a-bird-its-a-plane-its-superman-no-its-a-100-spoke-wheel/47734/6): > > Damn they’re gonna run the B6 for that long? > > :lol Lol, fixed. Too bad they’re already on to B8’s. ---
**Author:** ![Skidplate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c2a13f/32.png) [@Skidplate](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Skidplate)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2012, 10:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-cars-vs-old/262148/94 "2012-01-08T22:26:05Z")
i knew i shouldn’t have looked at page 3 shit. and on with my rant. Nailheads Flatties early HEMIs big Caddilacs stylistically the best engines ever produced IMO. now everything’s covered up and hidden. ever see an S4, any camaro, F150 or (god forbid) a Magnum driving around without it’s fenders and hood? No, you havent. because new motors are ugly. open the hood, pull off any plastic cover you can find under there and there will be a big ugly rats nest of wires staring you in the face. it’d be a long search for a single peice of plastic meant to cover something in a 32 Ford, or a 49 Mercury. those cars made of plastic and glue will run, spin, or slide circles around anything from the golden age of autos, but they wont have the style, the image, or just the presence of a vintage machine. /KK style rant. ---
**Author:** ![TurboTravis](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbotravis/32/6406_2.png) [@TurboTravis](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TurboTravis)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2012, 11:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-cars-vs-old/262148/95 "2012-01-08T23:46:52Z")
> [@Official: NHL Playoff Thread](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nhl-playoff-thread/46500/365): > > i knew i shouldn’t have looked at page 3 > shit. > > and on with my rant. > > Nailheads > Flatties > early HEMIs > big Caddilacs > stylistically the best engines ever produced IMO. now everything’s covered up and hidden. > > ever see an S4, any camaro, F150 or (god forbid) a Magnum driving around without it’s fenders and hood? No, you havent. because new motors are ugly. open the hood, pull off any plastic cover you can find under there and there will be a big ugly rats nest of wires staring you in the face. it’d be a long search for a single peice of plastic meant to cover something in a 32 Ford, or a 49 Mercury. > > those cars made of plastic and glue will run, spin, or slide circles around anything from the golden age of autos, but they wont have the style, the image, or just the presence of a vintage machine. > > /KK style rant. Eh, you’re trying to compare customized older engines to OEM modern engines. ---
**Author:** ![Johawk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/johawk/32/6284_2.png) [@Johawk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Johawk)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2012, 5:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-cars-vs-old/262148/96 "2012-01-09T05:27:05Z")
> [@Official: NHL Playoff Thread](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nhl-playoff-thread/46500/365): > > i knew i shouldn’t have looked at page 3 > shit. > > and on with my rant. > > Nailheads > Flatties > early HEMIs > big Caddilacs > stylistically the best engines ever produced IMO. now everything’s covered up and hidden. > > ever see an S4, any camaro, F150 or (god forbid) a Magnum driving around without it’s fenders and hood? No, you havent. because new motors are ugly. open the hood, pull off any plastic cover you can find under there and there will be a big ugly rats nest of wires staring you in the face. it’d be a long search for a single peice of plastic meant to cover something in a 32 Ford, or a 49 Mercury. > > those cars made of plastic and glue will run, spin, or slide circles around anything from the golden age of autos, but they wont have the style, the image, or just the presence of a vintage machine. > > /KK style rant. Once that motor is in a car that does not need EGR, EVAP, Air injection, catalytic converters, PCV, ect… and all the fuel lines and wires are cleaned up I think it will look just fine. I don’t think that LS or ford modular motors look that bad. Come to think of it there was never any plastic on my LS1. ---
**Author:** ![Skidplate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c2a13f/32.png) [@Skidplate](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Skidplate)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2012, 10:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-cars-vs-old/262148/97 "2012-01-09T10:39:06Z")
> [@It's a bird! It's a Plane! It's SuperMan! No, it's a 100 spoke wheel](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/its-a-bird-its-a-plane-its-superman-no-its-a-100-spoke-wheel/47734/39): > > Eh, you’re trying to compare customized older engines to OEM modern engines. > [@I Feel Dirty](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-feel-dirty/47768/9): > > Once that motor is in a car that does not need EGR, EVAP, Air injection, catalytic converters, PCV, ect… and all the fuel lines and wires are cleaned up I think it will look just fine. I don’t think that LS or ford modular motors look that bad. Come to think of it there was never any plastic on my LS1. TT-\> not even OEM new motors. modded/rodded W/E. IMO Old\>New (in style points) Johawk-\> yeah, you can clean up a modern motor, but lets take for instance, Chevy smallblocks. LSx and the original carburated 350. LSx\> takes far more wiring to make it run. coil packs electric fuel pump starter ECU MAF knock sensors, crank position sensor, cam position sensor ignition carb 350\> absolute basic shit starter distributor plug wires ignition. on another side note, if you were offered (FREE) a brand new '05 Ford GT, and an '05 Ferrari F430, which you you take? ---
**Author:** ![imported\_hybrdthry91](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/imported_hybrdthry91/32/6315_2.png) [@imported\_hybrdthry91](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_hybrdthry91)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2012, 10:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-cars-vs-old/262148/98 "2012-01-09T10:44:17Z")
> [@FS: '99 Subaru Impreza 2.5rs](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-99-subaru-impreza-2-5rs/47395/23): > > Visual comparison of how bloated cars are becoming. > > ![http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/yojack1/IMG_2694.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/2/a/2a12ac8bff5a176cb80da2864ddec1aa5a60fa03.jpeg) > > ![http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f293/moforeynolds/forums/P1010032.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/b/c/bc94e603ba69e3beda88471d4bbdbeaf97575728.jpeg) > > Even against it’s own kind. > > ![http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_8MPCKJQzPA8/R40w7W9IdAI/AAAAAAAAGds/xmY3TVegC0M/s320/r35r34.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/7/2/72651b161919637bd6370aa99cd4a97161efb146.jpeg) > > That’s why I will forever be a believe in lighter is better, no matter what power or times the new GTR puts down it will never have the nible feel of a light car light NSX or R32. > > Numbers don’t buy grace. > > Discuss. can you describe the nimble feel of the nsx, r32 gtr and the new GTR? Surely you have driven these right? ---
**Author:** ![Johawk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/johawk/32/6284_2.png) [@Johawk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Johawk)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2012, 10:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-cars-vs-old/262148/99 "2012-01-09T10:53:10Z")
> [@On another topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/45603/74): > > TT-\> not even OEM new motors. modded/rodded W/E. IMO Old\>New (in style points) > > Johawk-\> yeah, you can clean up a modern motor, but lets take for instance, Chevy smallblocks. LSx and the original carburated 350. > > LSx\> takes far more wiring to make it run. > coil packs > electric fuel pump > starter > ECU > MAF > knock sensors, crank position sensor, cam position sensor > ignition > > carb 350\> absolute basic shit > starter > distributor > plug wires > ignition. > > on another side note, if you were offered (FREE) a brand new '05 Ford GT, and an '05 Ferrari F430, which you you take? Ford GT. Cause I might have a prayer of being able to work on it! You do know they make carb manifolds for LSX, LT1, Ford Mod, and even the Coyote? ---
**Author:** ![Skidplate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c2a13f/32.png) [@Skidplate](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Skidplate)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2012, 11:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-cars-vs-old/262148/100 "2012-01-09T11:02:21Z")
> [@Minimum post cout.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/minimum-post-cout/47683/16): > > Ford GT. Cause I might have a prayer of being able to work on it! > > You do know they make carb manifolds for LSX, LT1, Ford Mod, and even the Coyote? i did know they make carb manifolds. does not negate the fact that you still need a shitload of wiring to run one. i’d take the GT in a heartbeat to answer my own question. i love staring at it in Autovista mode on Forza. :rofl unlike most people, i dont really like the whiney sound of an italian car (execption-Lamborghini(also why i never watch formula one)) i greatly prefer the lopey idle of a 454 or a HEMI with a monster cam. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-cars-vs-old/262148.md?page=4) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-cars-vs-old/262148.md?page=6)