# New cars VS old **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Automotive\ **Created:** [January 4, 2012, 9:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-cars-vs-old/262148 "2012-01-04T09:50:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 14
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2012, 10:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-cars-vs-old/262148/14 "2012-01-04T10:23:39Z")
> [@Deal or NO Deal. 01 330i, $11,900, 77,104](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/deal-or-no-deal-01-330i-11-900-77-104/47688/20): > > Unfortunately, the standard manual tranny is an endangered species nearing extinction. Oh it’s essentially dead as far as the industry is concerned. 95% of population doesn’t want it in a new car. Performance gearheads and super car manufacturers don’t want it because it’s slower and hurts their figures such as 0-60 and track times, not to mention many geezers that buy those cars don’t want a standard manual either. Speaking of gearheads - Jay when did you get an E46 M3? Bikes really seem to be the last frontier for the typical manual, however it’s not the same to begin with as it’s a sequential tranny and with the up and coming electric bikes that might go away as well. --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-cars-vs-old/262148)._