# New Drive Clean tests **URL:** \ **Category:** SON240sx Automotive\ **Created:** [November 16, 2012, 10:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-drive-clean-tests/227241 "2012-11-16T22:48:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![S13GG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/s13gg/32/5506_2.png) [@S13GG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/S13GG)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2012, 10:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-drive-clean-tests/227241/1 "2012-11-16T22:48:46Z")
Not sure how many have heard of the new drive clean rules, they effect 1998 + cars and will use a OBD2 port reader rather than a dyno… OBD1 and earlier will have to find a shop with the older equipment… Personally this won’t trouble me, but you modded 1998 guys better search out your wiring diagrams… or get your renewal in the next 45 days… [http://www.ene.gov.on.ca/stdprodconsume/groups/lr/@ene/@resources/documents/resource/stdprod\_101126.pdf](http://www.ene.gov.on.ca/stdprodconsume/groups/lr/@ene/@resources/documents/resource/stdprod_101126.pdf) there is always the option of the PO box… ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Phonso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a87d85/32.png) [@Mr\_Phonso](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mr_Phonso)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2012, 12:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-drive-clean-tests/227241/2 "2012-11-17T00:57:38Z")
Yea knew about this for a while now. Don’t worry zenki owners, we are safe. ---
**Author:** ![240sx\_nismo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/3da27b/32.png) [@240sx\_nismo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/240sx_nismo)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2012, 1:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-drive-clean-tests/227241/3 "2012-11-17T01:26:55Z")
> [@Mr. Phonso](#): > > Yea knew about this for a while now. Don’t worry zenki owners, we are safe. but it says obd2 on Bord diagnostics on are 1995 240sxs ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2012, 5:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-drive-clean-tests/227241/4 "2012-11-17T05:40:21Z")
this means 1997 Kouki’s are now better than 1997 Kouki’s??? sweet ---
**Author:** ![project\_240sx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/df705f/32.png) [@project\_240sx](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/project_240sx)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2012, 5:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-drive-clean-tests/227241/5 "2012-11-17T05:45:22Z")
the old equipment becomes extinct come January 1st 2013. everything 1997 and older will be a 2 speed idle, everything newer than 1998 will be obd plug in. ---
**Author:** ![S13GG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/s13gg/32/5506_2.png) [@S13GG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/S13GG)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2012, 6:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-drive-clean-tests/227241/6 "2012-11-17T06:05:02Z")
> [@bing](#): > > this means 1997 Kouki’s are now better than 1998 Kouki’s??? > > sweet #bing rules/ thats right… there is room for elitists within elitists … who knew… ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Phonso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a87d85/32.png) [@Mr\_Phonso](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mr_Phonso)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2012, 8:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-drive-clean-tests/227241/7 "2012-11-17T08:55:00Z")
> [@240sx\_nismo](#): > > but it says obd2 on Bord diagnostics on are 1995 240sxs So? The OBD2 test is only for 98+ ---
**Author:** ![karkas9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f14d63/32.png) [@karkas9](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/karkas9)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2012, 9:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-drive-clean-tests/227241/8 "2012-11-17T09:57:53Z")
all they check is the rear O2 sensor and possibly ur evap system. so as long as the voltage from rear O2 is more than 90 mV (usually or whatever its suppose to be for your car) you should be fine on that part. ---
**Author:** ![Philly](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/philly/32/5748_2.png) [@Philly](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Philly)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2012, 11:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-drive-clean-tests/227241/9 "2012-11-17T11:10:44Z")
> [@bing](#): > > this means 1997 Kouki’s are now better than 1997 Kouki’s??? > > sweet I thought they always were? ---
**Author:** ![prozac3ne2nr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/prozac3ne2nr/32/5581_2.png) [@prozac3ne2nr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/prozac3ne2nr)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2012, 6:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-drive-clean-tests/227241/10 "2012-11-17T18:30:32Z")
Phile I was hearing about this yesterday from riyad and rish from Nissan. Apparently the 97s are not a true OBD2 and are expempt. Idle test only. That sucks ass for swapped guys. ---
**Author:** ![CALIgula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a3d4f5/32.png) [@CALIgula](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/CALIgula)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2012, 7:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-drive-clean-tests/227241/11 "2012-11-17T19:23:54Z")
OBDII was standardized in 1998 the earlier cars with OBDII had the diagnostic plug, but it was missing some info output on some readings that the 98+ do. ---
**Author:** ![Jedi\_Car\_Fan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Jedi\_Car\_Fan](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jedi_Car_Fan)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2012, 1:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-drive-clean-tests/227241/12 "2012-11-19T13:06:37Z")
> [@prozac3ne2nr](#): > > Phile I was hearing about this yesterday from riyad and rish from Nissan. Apparently the 97s are not a true OBD2 and are expempt. Idle test only. > That sucks ass for swapped guys. How does it suck ass for swapped guys ? My SR20 puts out lower emission numbers then my KA24 did. So under a curb idle test my SR20 will pass with flying colours even if its tested as a KA24DE. ---
**Author:** ![simplemind7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/0ea827/32.png) [@simplemind7](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/simplemind7)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2012, 1:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-drive-clean-tests/227241/13 "2012-11-19T13:26:09Z")
> [@Jedi\_Car\_Fan](#): > > How does it suck ass for swapped guys ? > > My SR20 puts out lower emission numbers then my KA24 did. So under a curb idle test my SR20 will pass with flying colours even if its tested as a KA24DE. It’ll suck for 1998 swapped guys because the OBD isn’t hooked up. Doesn’t matter what comes out of the tail pipe for them. ---
**Author:** ![Jedi\_Car\_Fan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Jedi\_Car\_Fan](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jedi_Car_Fan)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2012, 1:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-drive-clean-tests/227241/14 "2012-11-19T13:38:15Z")
> [@simplemind7](#): > > It’ll suck for 1998 swapped guys because the OBD isn’t hooked up. Doesn’t matter what comes out of the tail pipe for them. Ohhh… Still, can’t be that hard to wire it all up. I did my S13 in like 2006 so I could datalog with my laptop etc… Just have to look up all the wiring/pin/colours and connect them? Or am I still missing something in regards to all this ODB2 crap? ---
**Author:** ![D-KILLA](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/d-killa/32/5544_2.png) [@D-KILLA](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/D-KILLA)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2012, 4:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-drive-clean-tests/227241/15 "2012-11-19T16:39:09Z")
2 speed idle bitchezzzz, whaaat!! ---
**Author:** ![jdm-only](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ea666f/32.png) [@jdm-only](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jdm-only)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2012, 4:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-drive-clean-tests/227241/16 "2012-11-19T16:55:37Z")
That’s not all guys!! Your forgetting that they will take a picture of you then your car then under your hood then your vin number and then make sure vin of the car matches the vin of the engine if not no test gets done, it’s the new work Oder stile e test all pictures get sent in to the mto so even if you pay 1000 you can’t get it too pass as you can’t cheat as they even have 24 hours CCTV camras watching everything the mechanic dose is watched, it’s time to realize the new world Order is comming very soon and step by step it’s going to make life as we know it a living hell and only the suprem ritch will have the good life ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Phonso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a87d85/32.png) [@Mr\_Phonso](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mr_Phonso)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2012, 5:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-drive-clean-tests/227241/17 "2012-11-19T17:21:00Z")
> [@jdm-only](#): > > That’s not all guys!! Your forgetting that they will take a picture of you then your car then under your hood then your vin number and then make sure vin of the car matches the vin of the engine if not no test gets done, it’s the new work Oder stile e test all pictures get sent in to the mto so even if you pay 1000 you can’t get it too pass as you can’t cheat as they even have 24 hours CCTV camras watching everything the mechanic dose is watched, it’s time to realize the new world Order is comming very soon and step by step it’s going to make life as we know it a living hell and only the suprem ritch will have the good life hahahaha ---
**Author:** ![jdm-only](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ea666f/32.png) [@jdm-only](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jdm-only)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2012, 6:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-drive-clean-tests/227241/18 "2012-11-19T18:39:20Z")
It’s no joke my e test guy told me everything and he was informed about all this back in April, ---
**Author:** ![Jedi\_Car\_Fan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Jedi\_Car\_Fan](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jedi_Car_Fan)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2012, 6:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-drive-clean-tests/227241/19 "2012-11-19T18:58:36Z")
> [@jdm-only](#): > > It’s no joke my e test guy told me everything and he was informed about all this back in April, Well than that would mean my mom’s 2006 Cavalier is a useless piece of scrap metal since the motor seized and was replaced. Theirs tons and tons of cars on the road that have had motors replaced due to accidents, seizing, over heating etc etc etc… so saying they can no longer be emissions tested due to not having the original motor is a crock of sh!t. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Phonso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a87d85/32.png) [@Mr\_Phonso](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mr_Phonso)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2012, 7:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-drive-clean-tests/227241/20 "2012-11-19T19:25:45Z")
Lol, they are going to take a picture of me, then my car, then my engine bay, then my vins, then big brother cameras… Whats next? Live telephone agents with the operator doing the etest? [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-drive-clean-tests/227241.md?page=2)