# new engine design

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-engine-design/171864>\
**Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic\
**Created:** [January 21, 2005, 4:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-engine-design/171864 "2005-01-21T04:39:43Z")\
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**Author:** ![GNocide](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gnocide/32/5947_2.png) [@GNocide](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GNocide)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 4:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-engine-design/171864/1 "2005-01-21T04:39:43Z")

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ive been following.  
check it out

[http://www.revetec.com/website/](http://www.revetec.com/website/)

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**Author:** ![OnTheRun710](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/5fc32e/32.png) [@OnTheRun710](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OnTheRun710)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 5:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-engine-design/171864/2 "2005-01-21T05:28:58Z")

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interesting…

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**Author:** ![starboy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/starboy/32/5985_2.png) [@starboy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/starboy)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 6:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-engine-design/171864/3 "2005-01-21T06:29:11Z")

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def. different  
 ![http://www.revetec.com/website/gallery/gal22.jpg](http://www.revetec.com/website/gallery/gal22.jpg)

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**Author:** ![T70\_Tsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/898d66/32.png) [@T70\_Tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T70_Tsi)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 6:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-engine-design/171864/4 "2005-01-21T06:37:42Z")

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porsche and subaru been doin that for years

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**Author:** ![GNocide](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gnocide/32/5947_2.png) [@GNocide](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GNocide)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 7:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-engine-design/171864/5 "2005-01-21T07:14:47Z")

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> [@BlueMeanieTSi](#):
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> porsche and subaru been doin that for years

are you fuckin high again???  
nobody has done this genius!!!  
you type some of the stupidest shit evar!!!

its not a flat 4 or boxter engine

read the shit then post an opinion with some intelligence

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**Author:** ![T70\_Tsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/898d66/32.png) [@T70\_Tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T70_Tsi)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 7:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-engine-design/171864/6 "2005-01-21T07:17:15Z")

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i did read the shit in fact i’m the one who posted it on racepa i watched the vids and read the shit i was making a jackassish comment :rolleyes: :greddy:

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**Author:** ![GNocide](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gnocide/32/5947_2.png) [@GNocide](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GNocide)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 7:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-engine-design/171864/7 "2005-01-21T07:19:03Z")

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2 more picture for people that cant read of how this thing works

![http://www.pittspeed.com/uploaded/ccedemo5.gif](http://www.pittspeed.com/uploaded/ccedemo5.gif)  
 ![http://www.pittspeed.com/uploaded/cce2004.jpeg](http://www.pittspeed.com/uploaded/cce2004.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![GNocide](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gnocide/32/5947_2.png) [@GNocide](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GNocide)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 7:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-engine-design/171864/8 "2005-01-21T07:19:55Z")

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> [@BlueMeanieTSi](#):
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> i was making a jackassish comment :rolleyes: :greddy:

that your quite good at

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**Author:** ![imported\_gearhead](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/imported_gearhead/32/5957_2.png) [@imported\_gearhead](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_gearhead)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 7:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-engine-design/171864/9 "2005-01-21T07:29:42Z")

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sounds like they still have some kinks to work out on the dyno thur.

…and looks like lost of parts that will wear and break for me to fix :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![GNocide](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gnocide/32/5947_2.png) [@GNocide](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GNocide)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 7:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-engine-design/171864/10 "2005-01-21T07:33:12Z")

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> [@gearhead](#):
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> sounds like they still have some kinks to work out on the dyno thur.
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> …and looks like lost of parts that will wear and break for me to fix :rolleyes:

there arnt as many parts a a standard engine, maybe more then a rotary :dunno:

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**Author:** ![T70\_Tsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/898d66/32.png) [@T70\_Tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T70_Tsi)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 7:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-engine-design/171864/11 "2005-01-21T07:43:48Z")

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it’s the same principal as that ducati engine i posted with a free floating piston

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**Author:** ![GNocide](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gnocide/32/5947_2.png) [@GNocide](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GNocide)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 8:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-engine-design/171864/12 "2005-01-21T08:02:20Z")

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somehow i doubt ducati engines have these principals  
Summaries of CCE advantages are as follows;

approximately one quarter the size and weight of a conventional engine (for similar applications) combined with improved output substantially increases power/weight and torque/weight ratio.

fewer moving and total components. As a result of fewer components, more easily manufactured than conventional engines.

identical cylinder head assembly (“top end”) to conventional engines. Most existing head technology can be either adapted or utilised.

Flexible design - can be four-stroke, two-stroke, petrol, diesel or gas, natural of forced aspiration.

Eliminated irregularly reciprocating components such as connecting rods.

Output shaft can be run in either direction if multilobed cams with symmetrical lobes are employed.

All rotational forces are counteracted via the counter rotating cam – eliminates the need for a heavy flywheel.

Torque and power output can be varied using a fixed capacity and piston stroke.

The CCE can be designed to operate at greatly reduced operating speeds while delivering high torque output.

Substantial reduction in stroke reduces heat loss through cylinder wall.

Extended piston dwell is possible because engine design allows a lower than normal compression ratio to be used reducing power loss from compression cycle.

Maximum mechanical advantage can be applied to output shaft at only 10 degrees ATDC utilising high cylinder pressure early in the stroke, compared to around 60 degrees ATDC for conventional engines.

Lower emissions can be achieved due to increased control over combustion.

Extremely low idle speed due to increase in mechanical efficiency at the top of the stroke.

Little or no bore contact/piston side thrust, which reduces wear on cylinder bore.

Can have different port timing on compression stroke than power stroke allowing better control two-stroke).

Lower centre of gravity.

Due to controlled piston acceleration rates the CCE reduces engine vibration.

A hollow output shaft can be utilised for specialty applications, such as peristaltic pumps

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**Author:** ![T70\_Tsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/898d66/32.png) [@T70\_Tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T70_Tsi)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 8:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-engine-design/171864/13 "2005-01-21T08:10:23Z")

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did you look at the ducati motor i posted? stop accusing me of not reseraching

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**Author:** ![T70\_Tsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/898d66/32.png) [@T70\_Tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T70_Tsi)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 8:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-engine-design/171864/14 "2005-01-21T08:12:22Z")

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![http://www.ducati.com/docs_eng/bikes/techcafe/general/articles/images/article11/fig0.jpg](http://www.ducati.com/docs_eng/bikes/techcafe/general/articles/images/article11/fig0.jpg)

looks amazingly familiar with that free floating piston doesn’t it

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**Author:** ![GNocide](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gnocide/32/5947_2.png) [@GNocide](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GNocide)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 8:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-engine-design/171864/15 "2005-01-21T08:15:54Z")

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just looked at it

no it isnt a free floating design piston

totally different

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**Author:** ![GNocide](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gnocide/32/5947_2.png) [@GNocide](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GNocide)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 8:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-engine-design/171864/16 "2005-01-21T08:17:07Z")

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> [@Dick Starbucks](#):
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> 2 more picture for people that cant read of how this thing works

does this look free floating or fixed to you???

(fixed is the answer)

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**Author:** ![T70\_Tsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/898d66/32.png) [@T70\_Tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T70_Tsi)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 8:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-engine-design/171864/17 "2005-01-21T08:20:47Z")

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> [@Dick Starbucks](#):
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> does this look free floating or fixed to you???
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> (fixed is the answer)

free floating means the piston is not connected to the crank not that it’s floating in mid air, both the ducati and the engine you posted run roller style bearings over the crank they are not attached directly to the crank.

yes it’s free floating

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**Author:** ![GNocide](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gnocide/32/5947_2.png) [@GNocide](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GNocide)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 8:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-engine-design/171864/18 "2005-01-21T08:25:43Z")

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> [@BlueMeanieTSi](#):
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> free floating means the piston is not connected to the crank not that it’s floating in mid air, both the ducati and the engine you posted run roller style bearings over the crank they are not attached directly to the crank.
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> yes it’s free floating

ill agree they arnt attached to the crank, but the revtech is attached to another part (in this case a shaft between and connected to the pistons)

the ducati is not even a good candidate for copyrite infringment on this design

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**Author:** ![T70\_Tsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/898d66/32.png) [@T70\_Tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T70_Tsi)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 8:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-engine-design/171864/19 "2005-01-21T08:27:24Z")

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i never said anything about copyright i said it “LOOKS” like the ducati engine, man you read WAY too into that statment

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**Author:** ![GNocide](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gnocide/32/5947_2.png) [@GNocide](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GNocide)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 8:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-engine-design/171864/20 "2005-01-21T08:35:59Z")

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i dont read well true,  
i also dont think a piston on a bearing ,in a cylinder head, thats rotated by a crank,

its the same as,

this model of cog gears , connected to a crank rotating multple pistons connected to a shaft with any configuration of head and stoke design

its very different --to me

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