# New GM engine for Tonawanda

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-gm-engine-for-tonawanda/79454>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [February 18, 2010, 11:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-gm-engine-for-tonawanda/79454 "2010-02-18T11:17:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 8\
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**Author:** ![blk99z28](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f19dbf/32.png) [@blk99z28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/blk99z28)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2010, 4:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-gm-engine-for-tonawanda/79454/21 "2010-02-18T16:13:10Z")

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[quote=“drvnkd,post:17,topic:79454"”]

I wonder how many will have to return to work after losing their job?..

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There’s currently ~ 340 people on layoff. They will have 1st dibs on any job openings at the plant.

[quote=“drvnkd,post:17,topic:79454"”]

As far as family members go… I’d bet a lot of guys would discourage their family from taking a job there these days…

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I had a family member tell me back in 02 or 03, that they could probably get me in there. But after we discused it, it was concluded that I’d never get 30 years in there and be able to retire like they did. My job would certainly would have been down-sized prior to any available retirement or the plant itself wouldn’t be running by the time I’d be eligable.

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**Author:** ![jt76](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jt76/32/5100_2.png) [@jt76](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jt76)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2010, 4:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-gm-engine-for-tonawanda/79454/22 "2010-02-18T16:41:13Z")

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:tup: to GM

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**Author:** ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2010, 7:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-gm-engine-for-tonawanda/79454/23 "2010-02-18T19:10:04Z")

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more local jobs…I’m all for it.

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**Author:** ![Penfold](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/penfold/32/5007_2.png) [@Penfold](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Penfold)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2010, 7:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-gm-engine-for-tonawanda/79454/24 "2010-02-18T19:15:30Z")

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I am really glad to see jobs in buffalo but do you guys really think GM is going to be OK?

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**Author:** ![dftsilvia](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dftsilvia/32/7447_2.png) [@dftsilvia](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dftsilvia)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2010, 7:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-gm-engine-for-tonawanda/79454/25 "2010-02-18T19:21:23Z")

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> [@d3x](#):
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> yeah it’s great news for the family members of GM employees. but those of us who came out of the wrong crotch will never see one of those 500 jobs.

isnt that the fuckin truth

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**Author:** ![TradersBASE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tradersbase/32/5321_2.png) [@TradersBASE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TradersBASE)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2010, 9:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-gm-engine-for-tonawanda/79454/26 "2010-02-18T21:10:37Z")

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> [@blk99z28](#):
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> There’s currently ~ 340 people on layoff. They will have 1st dibs on any job openings at the plant.
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> I had a family member tell me back in 02 or 03, that they could probably get me in there. But after we discused it, **it was concluded that I’d never get 30 years in there and be able to retire like they did.** My job would certainly would have been down-sized prior to any available retirement or the plant itself wouldn’t be running by the time I’d be eligable.

Wise choice IMO. Even the retired are not in the clear. Enron, while a different sham may show a glimpse of the future. GM’s pension is not realistically sustainable as I see it. They cannot have pension investment profits tank AND lose members monies through layoffs and expect to keep paying out. Even more perilous when you factor inflation and health care costs. I feel sorry for the probable future of those that were promised comfort for their efforts.

> [@Penfold](#):
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> I am really glad to see jobs in buffalo but do you guys really think GM is going to be OK?

I’m with you.

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**Author:** ![klug](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/klug/32/5222_2.png) [@klug](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/klug)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2010, 2:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-gm-engine-for-tonawanda/79454/27 "2010-02-19T14:17:21Z")

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[quote=“drvnkd,post:17,topic:79454"”]

I wonder how many will have to return to work after losing their job?

As far as family members go… I’d bet a lot of guys would discourage their family from taking a job there these days…

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My dad is a union delegate at Delphi and he wont let me work there lol. He said my job wouldn’t last 2 years :eekdance:.

This was a few years ago lol.

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**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2010, 2:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-gm-engine-for-tonawanda/79454/28 "2010-02-19T14:18:38Z")

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but then you can go into the job bank and get paid not to work

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