# new local domestic tuner

**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-local-domestic-tuner/253159
**Category:** Shift518 Automotive
**Created:** [July 6, 2010, 6:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-local-domestic-tuner/253159 "2010-07-06T18:14:09Z")
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### Author: ![Maverick1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Maverick1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Maverick1)
#### Post date: [July 8, 2010, 6:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-local-domestic-tuner/253159/61 "2010-07-08T06:49:25Z")

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Underboosted…Great question. Here is the answer. For 2010 we put a 3YR/36,000 mile warranty on the full driveline. Engine,transmission,rear end, axles. We put money aside in a special account from every car we sell to cover any issues that might arise. (To this point we have had no problems)  
The cars are not red flagged by GM. We have special paperwork that General Motors supplies that states the modifications that we have done. Obviously GM will not cover anything that we have modified or anything that fails due to the increase in horsepower.  
We have factory support from the General Motors Performance Parts Division and they are well aware of the modifications we do. (They have flown out on a few occassions and have toured the facility as well as had meetings with us) As you can tell most of our packages include GM Performance parts so they are excited that we buy all the parts direct from them.What I think makes us unique is we self warranty the builds. There really is no gray area and the customers sign paperwork that fully discloses what is covered and what is not. As we all know if you normally go to a modifier you really get no warranty after you have done extreme modifications. We felt that we needed to offer a warranty to make the project fully work. Just like most modifiers that build cars like we do if there is a major failure it does have to come back to us. The customers that buy the cars know that. Hennessey has the same program. I have delivered most of the cars in our hauler anyway and have been as far as California to the west and Florida to the south. If a problem arises we have the ability to resolve the issue. To this point it has not come into play. But if it does we know how to handle it. Most of the people that have bought the cars understand what happens when they heavily modify cars. Most have told me on the phone. “I would not be buying this car if I could not afford to fix it”. Most people feel secure that with us they get more coverage then they normally would when they modify a car on there own. I would hope you would agree.

Thanks  
Dan

> [@underboosted"](#):
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> This tread makes my head hurt. Question to Maverick. Whats the deal with the “warranty” on the red line cars? The way I heard it is that the vins on those cars are “red flagged” so the owner can only go back to you for work? How does that work if someone buys and lives across the country?
> 
> (Agian just a question. No need to take this out of hand.)

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### Author: ![deadbeatrec](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deadbeatrec/32/6401_2.png) [@deadbeatrec](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deadbeatrec)
#### Post date: [July 8, 2010, 7:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-local-domestic-tuner/253159/62 "2010-07-08T07:16:31Z")

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> [@vicks' dogs on the loose](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vicks-dogs-on-the-loose/33391/4):
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> Underboosted…Great question. Here is the answer. For 2010 we put a 3YR/36,000 mile warranty on the full driveline. Engine,transmission,rear end, axles. We put money aside in a special account from every car we sell to cover any issues that might arise. (To this point we have had no problems)  
> The cars are not red flagged by GM. We have special paperwork that General Motors supplies that states the modifications that we have done. Obviously GM will not cover anything that we have modified or anything that fails due to the increase in horsepower.  
> We have factory support from the General Motors Performance Parts Division and they are well aware of the modifications we do. (They have flown out on a few occassions and have toured the facility as well as had meetings with us) As you can tell most of our packages include GM Performance parts so they are excited that we buy all the parts direct from them.What I think makes us unique is we self warranty the builds. There really is no gray area and the customers sign paperwork that fully discloses what is covered and what is not. As we all know if you normally go to a modifier you really get no warranty after you have done extreme modifications. We felt that we needed to offer a warranty to make the project fully work. Just like most modifiers that build cars like we do if there is a major failure it does have to come back to us. The customers that buy the cars know that. Hennessey has the same program. I have delivered most of the cars in our hauler anyway and have been as far as California to the west and Florida to the south. If a problem arises we have the ability to resolve the issue. To this point it has not come into play. But if it does we know how to handle it. Most of the people that have bought the cars understand what happens when they heavily modify cars. Most have told me on the phone. **_“I would not be buying this car if I could not afford to fix it”_**. Most people feel secure that with us they get more coverage then they normally would when they modify a car on there own. I would hope you would agree.
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> Thanks  
> Dan

so then whats the warrenty for? the people who can just barely afford the car?

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### Author: ![Boost\_Creep](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boost_creep/32/6366_2.png) [@Boost\_Creep](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boost_Creep)
#### Post date: [July 8, 2010, 7:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-local-domestic-tuner/253159/63 "2010-07-08T07:24:50Z")

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I’ve spoken with Dan Carlton a couple times via email, nice guy.

Thanks for being professional in here Dan. There is a lack of it on this site.

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### Author: ![Maverick1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Maverick1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Maverick1)
#### Post date: [July 8, 2010, 7:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-local-domestic-tuner/253159/64 "2010-07-08T07:25:09Z")

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Deadbeatrec. The warranty goes with car if they purchase it. I think that you really cannot debate that having some coverage is better than no coverage. We have a few different packages that we produce some mild and some wild. We cover the 40,000 range to the 150,000 range. (including a car of course) I have sold cars to all types of people. I am an average guy and I have sold to all types of people. The one thing they all have in common they like performance cars. Just like you.

Boost Creep. I appreciate it. I tend to give everyone a chance. I never go by other peoples opinion. I tend to met someone and then formulate an opinion. I may be in the auto industry but I am an average guy just like all of you. I have no problem with people that voice opinions of peoples character. I just wish sometimes they would do it face to face. Most can have a calm discussion and see if they can work things out. I just tend to think that character assasination via the internet is not a good thing to do.

I came into this forum to clear some things and I was expecting it to end there. I have no idea why it took another turn.

If I get bad service myself I just do not go back. I would hope that most people that have talked with me or done business with me would feel that I treated them with respect.

Pardon my spelling and errors but I just think and type. welcome to paragraph run on.

Dan

> [@Would you nail Zong?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/would-you-nail-zong/33392/5):
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> so then whats the warrenty for? the people who can just barely afford the car?

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### Author: ![h0twh3els](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/h0twh3els/32/6615_2.png) [@h0twh3els](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/h0twh3els)
#### Post date: [July 8, 2010, 7:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-local-domestic-tuner/253159/65 "2010-07-08T07:27:05Z")

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LOL at this thread… The people defending redline (minus maverick) are the reasons why the shop gets dogged so much. And even maverick, you couldn’t form a proper paragraph to save baby jesus from being trampled by a crowd full of angry redline owners whose car has blown up on the dyno.

It’s fact around here Maverick that any time a discussion comes up about another performance shop, REDLINE is brought up by his nut swingers and we’re all assholes for not having 50K and B/N cars to go to him with.

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### Author: ![h0twh3els](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/h0twh3els/32/6615_2.png) [@h0twh3els](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/h0twh3els)
#### Post date: [July 8, 2010, 7:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-local-domestic-tuner/253159/66 "2010-07-08T07:28:07Z")

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> [@My luck never quits \*rant\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-luck-never-quits-rant/33129/59):
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> I’ve spoken with Dan Carlton a couple times via email, nice guy.
> 
> Thanks for being professional in here Dan. There is a lack of it on this site.

I don’t think anyone has a problem with Dan.

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### Author: ![Boost\_Creep](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boost_creep/32/6366_2.png) [@Boost\_Creep](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boost_Creep)
#### Post date: [July 8, 2010, 7:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-local-domestic-tuner/253159/67 "2010-07-08T07:30:04Z")

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Didn’t say they did, but the way everyone gets attacked around here it’s getting old.

Site is turning into drama fest 2010.

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### Author: ![h0twh3els](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/h0twh3els/32/6615_2.png) [@h0twh3els](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/h0twh3els)
#### Post date: [July 8, 2010, 7:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-local-domestic-tuner/253159/68 "2010-07-08T07:32:48Z")

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> [@Boost Creep"](#):
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> Didn’t say they did, but the way everyone gets attacked around here it’s getting old.
> 
> Site is turning into drama fest 2010.

I don’t think it was for him specifically… More because John’s OP said “I don’t want this to turn into a redline vs the world” and it did.

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### Author: ![psi2high](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/psi2high/32/6320_2.png) [@psi2high](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/psi2high)
#### Post date: [July 8, 2010, 7:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-local-domestic-tuner/253159/69 "2010-07-08T07:47:16Z")

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> [@Boost Creep"](#):
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> Didn’t say they did, but the way everyone gets attacked around here it’s getting old.
> 
> Site is turning into drama fest 2010.

Site has been drama fest since it opened

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### Author: ![deadbeatrec](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deadbeatrec/32/6401_2.png) [@deadbeatrec](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deadbeatrec)
#### Post date: [July 8, 2010, 7:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-local-domestic-tuner/253159/70 "2010-07-08T07:47:29Z")

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defending Redline on here consists of telling person A how badly they will get there ass kicked by Redline goon squad member X.

case in point…

[http://shift518.com/showthread.php?t=10077&highlight=deadbear](http://shift518.com/showthread.php?t=10077&highlight=deadbear)

yes he had threatened me by saing how badly he was going to punish my face or what have you.

now we got Joeyc6 on here telling us how tough Tanner is and u better not make him mad because if u do the world starts to rotate in reverse! WTF??? people are really this dumb.

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### Author: ![Maverick1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Maverick1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Maverick1)
#### Post date: [July 8, 2010, 7:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-local-domestic-tuner/253159/71 "2010-07-08T07:54:07Z")

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Guys it was nice to meet you and thanks for the few who sent me PM’s. I do not understand why this thread has now become a mess with other links and personal attacks.It is a shame.  
Dan

> [@deadbeatrec"](#):
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> defending Redline on here consists of telling person A how badly they will get there ass kicked by Redline goon squad member X.
> 
> case in point…
> 
> [http://shift518.com/showthread.php?t=10077&highlight=deadbear](http://shift518.com/showthread.php?t=10077&highlight=deadbear)
> 
> yes he had threatened me by saing how badly he was going to punish my face or what have you.
> 
> now we got Joeyc6 on here telling us how tough Tanner is and u better not make him mad because if u do the world starts to rotate in reverse! WTF??? people are really this dumb.

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### Author: ![psi2high](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/psi2high/32/6320_2.png) [@psi2high](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/psi2high)
#### Post date: [July 8, 2010, 7:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-local-domestic-tuner/253159/72 "2010-07-08T07:56:13Z")

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You should save all the quotes and post them all over the interwebz

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### Author: ![deadbeatrec](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deadbeatrec/32/6401_2.png) [@deadbeatrec](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deadbeatrec)
#### Post date: [July 8, 2010, 7:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-local-domestic-tuner/253159/73 "2010-07-08T07:59:46Z")

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> [@Your Veyron too slow?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/your-veyron-too-slow/33379/11):
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> Guys it was nice to met you and thanks for the few who sent me PM’s. I do not understand why this thread has now become a mess with other links and personal attacks.It is a shame.  
> Dan

YOU WANNA KNOW WHAT THE FUCKING SHAME IS??? THAT THE LOCAL TUNER, AKA HOWIE, HAS TO BE SUCH AN AGOGANT PRICK AND PICK HIS CUSTOMERS ON HOW BIG THEIR WALLETS ARE!!!

:Idiots

im sorry your in the middle of this Dan but this is how we here at shift feel. and if you do not approve, then stop posting and be on your merry way. other than that, if you havnt noticed we here at shift thrive on this shit. so your more than welcome to write anything you want. :thumbup

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### Author: ![h0twh3els](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/h0twh3els/32/6615_2.png) [@h0twh3els](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/h0twh3els)
#### Post date: [July 8, 2010, 8:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-local-domestic-tuner/253159/74 "2010-07-08T08:01:01Z")

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> [@deadbeatrec"](#):
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> YOU WANNA KNOW WHAT THE FUCKING SAME IS??? THAT THE LOCAL TUNER, AKA HOWIE, HAS TO BE SUCH AN AGOGANT PRICK AND PICK HIS CUSTOMERS ON HOW BIG THEIR WALLETS ARE!!!
> 
> :Idiots
> 
> im sorry your in the middle of this Dan but this is how we here at shift feel. and if you do not approve, then stop posting and be on your merry way. other than that, if you havnt noticed we here at shirt thrive on this shit. so your more than welcome to write anything you want. :thumbup

You calm the eff down, you son of a bitch.

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### Author: ![deadbeatrec](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deadbeatrec/32/6401_2.png) [@deadbeatrec](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deadbeatrec)
#### Post date: [July 8, 2010, 8:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-local-domestic-tuner/253159/75 "2010-07-08T08:05:21Z")

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> [@Finally got my Unrestricted pistol permit!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/finally-got-my-unrestricted-pistol-permit/33395/4):
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> You calm the eff down, you son of a bitch.

:hug

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### Author: ![jdaniels](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jdaniels/32/6399_2.png) [@jdaniels](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jdaniels)
#### Post date: [July 8, 2010, 8:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-local-domestic-tuner/253159/76 "2010-07-08T08:18:41Z")

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Hulk SMASSSSHHH!

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### Author: ![h0twh3els](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/h0twh3els/32/6615_2.png) [@h0twh3els](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/h0twh3els)
#### Post date: [July 8, 2010, 8:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-local-domestic-tuner/253159/77 "2010-07-08T08:21:44Z")

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> [@jdaniels"](#):
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> Hulk SMASSSSHHH!

You shut your whorish mouth.

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### Author: ![jdaniels](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jdaniels/32/6399_2.png) [@jdaniels](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jdaniels)
#### Post date: [July 8, 2010, 8:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-local-domestic-tuner/253159/78 "2010-07-08T08:30:41Z")

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> [@h0twh3els"](#):
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> You shut your whorish mouth.

Calm down before Howard hits Redline… then “your done”.

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### Author: ![h0twh3els](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/h0twh3els/32/6615_2.png) [@h0twh3els](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/h0twh3els)
#### Post date: [July 8, 2010, 8:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-local-domestic-tuner/253159/79 "2010-07-08T08:31:45Z")

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> [@Finally got my Unrestricted pistol permit!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/finally-got-my-unrestricted-pistol-permit/33395/5):
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> Calm down before Howard hits Redline… then “your done”.

:ahh

:lol:lol

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### Author: ![psi2high](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/psi2high/32/6320_2.png) [@psi2high](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/psi2high)
#### Post date: [July 8, 2010, 8:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-local-domestic-tuner/253159/80 "2010-07-08T08:32:01Z")

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> [@Finally got my Unrestricted pistol permit!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/finally-got-my-unrestricted-pistol-permit/33395/5):
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> Calm down before Howard hits Redline… then “your done”.

Almost pissed my self:rofl

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