# new member here asking for help with a current member **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [December 7, 2005, 11:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-member-here-asking-for-help-with-a-current-member/178663 "2005-12-07T11:45:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![coolcobramatt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c68b51/32.png) [@coolcobramatt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/coolcobramatt)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2005, 11:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-member-here-asking-for-help-with-a-current-member/178663/1 "2005-12-07T11:45:40Z")
So as not to retype what I’ve written at [steelcitystangs.com](http://steelcitystangs.com), here is the link. [http://www.steelcitystangs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2303](http://www.steelcitystangs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2303) I hear this guy is on here as grayo5 and blue on there. He sold me a locked handheld tuner for my mustang and has been threatening lawsuits (parents are lawyers he claims), saying I must have done something to it (impossible since it’s locked to begin with), and wont help me since it was “as is”, but he advertised it as “brand new” “unused” and “good to go” ([svtperformance.com](http://svtperformance.com) thread [http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/showthread.php?t=232776](http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/showthread.php?t=232776) )I’m not on here trying to start a war, I just want things made right. If anyone is friends with him or can offer some assistance in getting him to do the right thing, I will be thankful. I have almost 1000 posts on svtperf and am a top rated trader there. Just an honest guy who cant afford to get ripped off. Thanks in advance for your help guys. Matt Martin [matthewmartin@juno.com](mailto:matthewmartin@juno.com) or YM coolcobramatt ---
**Author:** ![Sight\_N\_Sound](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sight_n_sound/32/5950_2.png) [@Sight\_N\_Sound](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sight_N_Sound)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2005, 12:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-member-here-asking-for-help-with-a-current-member/178663/2 "2005-12-07T12:04:26Z")
> [@fshowcars](#): > > i’m also confused on the legal issues with the sale… God called Gray and told him the secret to life and the next best vehicle was stored on that unit and now he wants it back. ---
**Author:** ![Sight\_N\_Sound](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sight_n_sound/32/5950_2.png) [@Sight\_N\_Sound](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sight_N_Sound)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2005, 12:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-member-here-asking-for-help-with-a-current-member/178663/3 "2005-12-07T12:18:44Z")
Jay God called, No more devine secrets for Joo unless you return this guy’s money. ---
**Author:** ![fshowcars](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fshowcars/32/5937_2.png) [@fshowcars](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fshowcars)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2005, 2:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-member-here-asking-for-help-with-a-current-member/178663/4 "2005-12-07T14:05:08Z")
🙂 welcome man… sorry to hear about the BS. your thread is in the on-topic forum… please head there regarding the bad seller 🙂 enjoy the site! ---
**Author:** ![coolcobramatt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c68b51/32.png) [@coolcobramatt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/coolcobramatt)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2005, 2:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-member-here-asking-for-help-with-a-current-member/178663/5 "2005-12-07T14:05:42Z")
Im sure he will come out just like he did at svtperformance and run me down and try to make everyone think he’s been cornholed. But then it appears you all know him pretty well. He’ll act pissy and cry foul and he was trying to help but I went too far etc etc. Knowing he has lied from the get go is why I stopped holding back. And when he doesnt see a reply from me immediately he will post I’m hiding or something similar. Nothing is further from the truth. I have a life and a family with a 4 and 5 year old I take care of alone. I may not be able to be on here as I have been while here at work. I shouldnt have spent this much time but I need the money back. I will sign back on near 8 pm CST and see if the money is back in my paypal. If not I will not be as pleasant as I was. It simply doesnt need to go farther, he can end it and save what’s left of his “legitimate businessman” reputation. I have posted this same thread on svtperf and pittspeed just in case. My paypal is [matthewmartin@juno.com](mailto:matthewmartin@juno.com) so he has no excuse not to get this done. There was a ton of posts on this earlier but they disappeared for some reason. ---
**Author:** ![coolcobramatt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c68b51/32.png) [@coolcobramatt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/coolcobramatt)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2005, 2:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-member-here-asking-for-help-with-a-current-member/178663/6 "2005-12-07T14:06:27Z")
> [@fshowcars](#): > > 🙂 > > welcome man… sorry to hear about the BS. > > your thread is in the on-topic forum… please head there regarding the bad seller 🙂 > > enjoy the site! thanks I jst posted I wondered where that all went…lol! ---
**Author:** ![fshowcars](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fshowcars/32/5937_2.png) [@fshowcars](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fshowcars)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2005, 2:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-member-here-asking-for-help-with-a-current-member/178663/7 "2005-12-07T14:10:27Z")
🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Pewter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pewter/32/5936_2.png) [@Pewter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pewter)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2005, 2:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-member-here-asking-for-help-with-a-current-member/178663/8 "2005-12-07T14:43:19Z")
welcome:beer: ---
**Author:** ![Turbo\_Silverado](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbo_silverado/32/5990_2.png) [@Turbo\_Silverado](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Turbo_Silverado)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2005, 2:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-member-here-asking-for-help-with-a-current-member/178663/9 "2005-12-07T14:49:55Z")
welcome to the site ---
**Author:** ![cleanquick306](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/48db29/32.png) [@cleanquick306](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cleanquick306)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2005, 2:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-member-here-asking-for-help-with-a-current-member/178663/10 "2005-12-07T14:58:14Z")
welcome ---
**Author:** ![Streetnstrip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7bcc69/32.png) [@Streetnstrip](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Streetnstrip)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2005, 3:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-member-here-asking-for-help-with-a-current-member/178663/11 "2005-12-07T15:43:18Z")
welcome ---
**Author:** ![bgblockelcamino](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bgblockelcamino/32/5997_2.png) [@bgblockelcamino](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bgblockelcamino)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2005, 5:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-member-here-asking-for-help-with-a-current-member/178663/12 "2005-12-07T17:27:31Z")
welcome ---
**Author:** ![T70\_Tsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/898d66/32.png) [@T70\_Tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T70_Tsi)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2005, 5:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-member-here-asking-for-help-with-a-current-member/178663/13 "2005-12-07T17:34:59Z")
welcome ---
**Author:** ![BlkP42E](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blkp42e/32/5938_2.png) [@BlkP42E](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BlkP42E)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2005, 5:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-member-here-asking-for-help-with-a-current-member/178663/14 "2005-12-07T17:57:59Z")
hi. ---
**Author:** ![traydogg6969](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/traydogg6969/32/5999_2.png) [@traydogg6969](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/traydogg6969)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2005, 6:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-member-here-asking-for-help-with-a-current-member/178663/15 "2005-12-07T18:37:24Z")
welcome ---
**Author:** ![InsaneSTi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/4bbf92/32.png) [@InsaneSTi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/InsaneSTi)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2005, 8:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-member-here-asking-for-help-with-a-current-member/178663/16 "2005-12-07T20:32:21Z")
i heard Jason takes boxing lessons… ---
**Author:** ![rookee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rookee/32/5972_2.png) [@rookee](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rookee)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2005, 8:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-member-here-asking-for-help-with-a-current-member/178663/17 "2005-12-07T20:48:19Z")
> [@cleanquick306](#): > > welcome wish it coulda been under better circumstances 🍺 ---
**Author:** ![InsaneSTi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/4bbf92/32.png) [@InsaneSTi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/InsaneSTi)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2005, 8:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-member-here-asking-for-help-with-a-current-member/178663/18 "2005-12-07T20:50:40Z")
welcome …there are some pretty cool people on this site! ---
**Author:** ![VictorSmalls](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/victorsmalls/32/5944_2.png) [@VictorSmalls](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/VictorSmalls)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2005, 9:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-member-here-asking-for-help-with-a-current-member/178663/19 "2005-12-07T21:01:52Z")
welcome, good luck with Jay, sounds like he needs to fix his mistakes :dunno: ---
**Author:** ![fshowcars](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fshowcars/32/5937_2.png) [@fshowcars](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fshowcars)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2005, 5:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-member-here-asking-for-help-with-a-current-member/178663/20 "2005-12-08T05:48:32Z")
gaha… i guess yo’re fully welcomed at this point 😉