# new mustang runs 12's **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [December 3, 2004, 11:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-mustang-runs-12s/170804 "2004-12-03T11:27:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![fshowcars](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fshowcars/32/5937_2.png) [@fshowcars](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fshowcars)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 1:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-mustang-runs-12s/170804/21 "2004-12-03T13:07:32Z")
first off all i know nothing about mustangs… second i didn’t post that i did, i only offered logical explainations… “torque management” - so tell me what that does to stop the tires from burning out!!! second “the electronic throttle control also pulls the throttle back partially when the enigne is shifted at WOT to protect the drivetrian from shock with the die effect of preventing power shifting” i’m willing to be some $ that it’s not physically moving ANYTHING related to the gas pedal and simply modulating the throttle body to cut power… as i guessed in my first post. ---
**Author:** ![fshowcars](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fshowcars/32/5937_2.png) [@fshowcars](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fshowcars)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-mustang-runs-12s/170804/22 "2004-12-03T13:08:17Z")
> [@95greenZ](#): > > cill dude…just joking around like you r i’m high strung like that… ---
**Author:** ![Turbo\_Silverado](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbo_silverado/32/5990_2.png) [@Turbo\_Silverado](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Turbo_Silverado)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 1:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-mustang-runs-12s/170804/23 "2004-12-03T13:10:55Z")
it says the torque mangement stops or slows down the throttle…soo tire spin does not happen…the guys at pauls high performance (who r tight with ford) said its fords NO BURNOUT ALLOWED position…idk…im just sayin what the book says…and seeing what ppl think of it thats all ---
**Author:** ![Turbo\_Silverado](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbo_silverado/32/5990_2.png) [@Turbo\_Silverado](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Turbo_Silverado)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 1:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-mustang-runs-12s/170804/24 "2004-12-03T13:11:21Z")
> [@fshowcars](#): > > i’m high strung like that… its cool…we all get like that… u prob need :bj: ---
**Author:** ![fshowcars](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fshowcars/32/5937_2.png) [@fshowcars](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fshowcars)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 1:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-mustang-runs-12s/170804/25 "2004-12-03T13:15:14Z")
> [@95greenZ](#): > > it says the torque mangement stops or slows down the throttle…soo tire spin does not happen…the guys at pauls high performance (who r tight with ford) said its fords NO BURNOUT ALLOWED position…idk…im just sayin what the book says…and seeing what ppl think of it thats all i understand this this man… my point is that i BET the ‘torque management’ sense too much tire spin and applies the breaks via ABS… otherwise it would sense the spin and close the throttle body… ---
**Author:** ![Turbo\_Silverado](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbo_silverado/32/5990_2.png) [@Turbo\_Silverado](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Turbo_Silverado)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 1:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-mustang-runs-12s/170804/26 "2004-12-03T13:16:04Z")
ya it sense the spin and closes the throttle body ---
**Author:** ![Turbo\_Silverado](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbo_silverado/32/5990_2.png) [@Turbo\_Silverado](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Turbo_Silverado)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 1:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-mustang-runs-12s/170804/27 "2004-12-03T13:16:27Z")
it says nothing to do with abs…all the engine computer ---
**Author:** ![fshowcars](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fshowcars/32/5937_2.png) [@fshowcars](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fshowcars)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 1:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-mustang-runs-12s/170804/28 "2004-12-03T13:16:57Z")
> [@95greenZ](#): > > it says nothing to do with abs…all the engine computer :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: hahaha… you win! ---
**Author:** ![Turbo\_Silverado](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbo_silverado/32/5990_2.png) [@Turbo\_Silverado](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Turbo_Silverado)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 1:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-mustang-runs-12s/170804/29 "2004-12-03T13:18:08Z")
> [@fshowcars](#): > > :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: > > hahaha… you win! i do???..what do i win ---
**Author:** ![Turbo\_Silverado](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbo_silverado/32/5990_2.png) [@Turbo\_Silverado](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Turbo_Silverado)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 1:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-mustang-runs-12s/170804/30 "2004-12-03T13:18:53Z")
im just sayin what the book says…thats all…tryin to learn about the new fords… ---
**Author:** ![fshowcars](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fshowcars/32/5937_2.png) [@fshowcars](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fshowcars)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 1:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-mustang-runs-12s/170804/31 "2004-12-03T13:21:40Z")
i get ya… i’m just saying i give up… all i’m basing this on is on my understanding of traction control… how does a car know it’s spinning tire? it checks the abs modules to see if one tire is spinning more than another… on a vw from 0-15 mph on massive wheel spin (with tract cont ON) the abs modules apply the brakes… from 15+ the car closes the TB to cut power… my post was just assuming that’s how it worked on these. we just need more info on the car or someone to buy one so we can test it out. the fact that it’s controlled by the ECU is assumed… all i’m saying is what dignifies tires spin to the computer? ---
**Author:** ![Turbo\_Silverado](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbo_silverado/32/5990_2.png) [@Turbo\_Silverado](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Turbo_Silverado)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 1:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-mustang-runs-12s/170804/32 "2004-12-03T13:23:38Z")
i get ya…im confuessed a little on this…but…still none the less…12’s in a new stang…with no headers on n2o…just like bolt ons…is sweet… it ran 12.31 at 112mph ---
**Author:** ![fshowcars](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fshowcars/32/5937_2.png) [@fshowcars](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fshowcars)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 1:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-mustang-runs-12s/170804/33 "2004-12-03T13:40:52Z")
> [@95greenZ](#): > > i get ya…im confuessed a little on this…but…still none the less…12’s in a new stang…with no headers on n2o…just like bolt ons…is sweet… > > it ran 12.31 at 112mph haha … yeah i suppose!!! 🍪 ---
**Author:** ![Gray05](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cc9497/32.png) [@Gray05](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gray05)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 8:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-mustang-runs-12s/170804/34 "2004-12-03T20:49:22Z")
umm… i spun the tires off a new gt pretty easily. but its when modding the throttle plate closes , just a simple tune fixes it ---
**Author:** ![Turbo\_Silverado](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbo_silverado/32/5990_2.png) [@Turbo\_Silverado](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Turbo_Silverado)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2004, 4:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-mustang-runs-12s/170804/35 "2004-12-04T04:14:48Z")
> [@Blue4](#): > > umm… i spun the tires off a new gt pretty easily. but its when modding the throttle plate closes , just a simple tune fixes it i know this…why did ford do this??? and a compay called php already has a chip out for the car to get rid of that and speed limiter and rasie fuel and spark curve ---
**Author:** ![Darkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2004, 9:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-mustang-runs-12s/170804/36 "2004-12-04T09:35:25Z")
ford is a faggot company for doing this. Once you buy their Mustang, you should be allowed to do as many burnouts as you fucking want. Their shit cars were probably getting pwned by warranty claims so they pull this crap. ---
**Author:** ![Gray05](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cc9497/32.png) [@Gray05](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gray05)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2004, 12:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-mustang-runs-12s/170804/37 "2004-12-04T12:44:44Z")
again, this is nothing more than a chip can fix ---
**Author:** ![Turbo\_Silverado](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbo_silverado/32/5990_2.png) [@Turbo\_Silverado](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Turbo_Silverado)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2004, 3:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-mustang-runs-12s/170804/38 "2004-12-04T15:51:35Z")
> [@Blue4](#): > > again, this is nothing more than a chip can fix pauls high performance…the company that got the car into the 12’s has one out already… [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-mustang-runs-12s/170804.md?page=1)