# New ride/impulse buy 99 Eclipse GST Spyder

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-ride-impulse-buy-99-eclipse-gst-spyder/259651>\
**Category:** Builds\
**Created:** [July 27, 2011, 3:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-ride-impulse-buy-99-eclipse-gst-spyder/259651 "2011-07-27T15:48:20Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2012, 6:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-ride-impulse-buy-99-eclipse-gst-spyder/259651/301 "2012-02-21T18:34:14Z")

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> [@NYSPEED Welcomes SWERVE MOTORSPORTS](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nyspeed-welcomes-swerve-motorsports/48168/46):
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> and as for lasting longer, building your bottom end does just that… trying to find the vid on youtube of buschurs built block and stage 3 head… its been romped on at 40psi for season after season and they ripped it apart to see the condition and the thing was miintt

That’s a lot of boost. Never did the built route. Too much $$$ and never needed it.

> [@Clutch opinions?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/clutch-opinions/48255/12):
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> dude, the car is in a bagillion peices lol… again, ive only had the car for 6 months, 4 of which it not being driven lol…

I was referring to $27K spent but the turbo hasn’t been boughten yet.

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**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2012, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-ride-impulse-buy-99-eclipse-gst-spyder/259651/302 "2012-02-21T18:35:12Z")

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> [@Some pics of the Daytona (no 56k)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/some-pics-of-the-daytona-no-56k/48291/20):
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> Shawn, that car has only a stock bottom end. There’s no way a stock head is revving to 10k.

I can’t see inside. Only going by the thread. 🙂

But, 9 second stock internal DSMs do exist from memory.

But, are EVO’s considered 3/S? I could counter argue the 3/S == DSM but man, talk about a can of worms. :lol:

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**Author:** ![love4boost](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/love4boost/32/6658_2.png) [@love4boost](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/love4boost)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2012, 6:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-ride-impulse-buy-99-eclipse-gst-spyder/259651/303 "2012-02-21T18:37:20Z")

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> [@Some pics of the Daytona (no 56k)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/some-pics-of-the-daytona-no-56k/48291/20):
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> Shawn, that car has only a stock bottom end. There’s no way a stock head is revving to 10k.

exaacttlyyy lol… a head DOES make a car faster, a bottom end doesnt lol… thats why some people cheap out and dont build there bottom ends.

> [@Innovative Tuning 4th Annual Open House - May 17 3:30-7:30](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/innovative-tuning-4th-annual-open-house-may-17-3-30-7-30/47075/40):
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> That’s a lot of boost. Never did the built route. Too much $$$ and never needed it.
> 
> I was referring to $27K spent but the turbo hasn’t been boughten yet.

27k is the bottom and top end of the motor, the 6 bolt swapped motor itself, the awd set up, intercooler, tuning, paint job, and a ton of other shit… have every last reciept for shit ive done to the car.

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**Author:** ![love4boost](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/love4boost/32/6658_2.png) [@love4boost](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/love4boost)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2012, 6:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-ride-impulse-buy-99-eclipse-gst-spyder/259651/304 "2012-02-21T18:38:49Z")

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> [@Waste the rest of your night](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/waste-the-rest-of-your-night/48321/6):
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> I can’t see inside. Only going by the thread. 🙂
> 
> But, 9 second stock internal DSMs do exist from memory.
> 
> But, are EVO’s considered 3/S? I could counter argue the 3/S == DSM but man, talk about a can of worms. :lol:

not a chance in hell is there a stock bottom and a stock head dsm with just a large turbo running 9s

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**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2012, 6:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-ride-impulse-buy-99-eclipse-gst-spyder/259651/305 "2012-02-21T18:39:44Z")

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Internet is filled with liars y0.

[http://www.rizzottiracing.com/specs.htm](http://www.rizzottiracing.com/specs.htm)

Upgraded head.

Blah. Stock Internals = Stock Head. No?

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**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2012, 6:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-ride-impulse-buy-99-eclipse-gst-spyder/259651/306 "2012-02-21T18:41:25Z")

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> [@Z4 M roadster](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/z4-m-roadster/47840/35):
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> not a chance in hell is there a stock bottom and a stock head dsm with just a large turbo running 9s

EVO considered a DSM?

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**Author:** ![Eatonualive](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/eatonualive/32/6442_2.png) [@Eatonualive](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Eatonualive)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2012, 6:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-ride-impulse-buy-99-eclipse-gst-spyder/259651/307 "2012-02-21T18:44:56Z")

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you can increase the bore size or the stroke and make more power. same thing with the compression ratio. all of those thigs will result in an increase in power. just sayin lol. without changing anything else, you can make a car faster by doing those things. just sayin.

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**Author:** ![love4boost](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/love4boost/32/6658_2.png) [@love4boost](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/love4boost)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2012, 6:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-ride-impulse-buy-99-eclipse-gst-spyder/259651/308 "2012-02-21T18:46:01Z")

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> [@Think you've got balls?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/think-youve-got-balls/48308/21):
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> Internet is filled with liars y0.
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> [http://www.rizzottiracing.com/specs.htm](http://www.rizzottiracing.com/specs.htm)
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> Upgraded head.
> 
> Blah. Stock Internals = Stock Head. No?

some people say stock internals are considered the bottom end, some dont… idk.

> [@My experience with P and J Speedshop](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-experience-with-p-and-j-speedshop/48319/29):
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> EVO considered a DSM?

i was talking eclipses, but id be surprised if even an evo ran 9s with a stock head… real surprised.

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**Author:** ![love4boost](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/love4boost/32/6658_2.png) [@love4boost](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/love4boost)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2012, 6:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-ride-impulse-buy-99-eclipse-gst-spyder/259651/309 "2012-02-21T18:46:52Z")

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> [@Waste the rest of your night](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/waste-the-rest-of-your-night/48321/7):
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> you can increase the bore size or the stroke and make more power. same thing with the compression ratio. all of those thigs will result in an increase in power. just sayin lol. without changing anything else, you can make a car faster by doing those things. just sayin.

yes, if you read my post below i said unless your stroking your motor building bottom end wont increase power.

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**Author:** ![Eatonualive](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/eatonualive/32/6442_2.png) [@Eatonualive](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Eatonualive)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2012, 6:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-ride-impulse-buy-99-eclipse-gst-spyder/259651/310 "2012-02-21T18:51:34Z")

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i know. but increasing the bore size will also increase power out put at any given psi setting. so will increasing your compression ratio.

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**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2012, 6:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-ride-impulse-buy-99-eclipse-gst-spyder/259651/311 "2012-02-21T18:52:31Z")

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> [@Think you've got balls?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/think-youve-got-balls/48308/22):
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> i know. but increasing the bore size will also increase power out put at any given psi setting. so will increasing your compression ratio.

Plus Juan.  
Also all three will decrease the amount of time it’ll take to spool the turbo.

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**Author:** ![Eatonualive](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/eatonualive/32/6442_2.png) [@Eatonualive](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Eatonualive)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2012, 6:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-ride-impulse-buy-99-eclipse-gst-spyder/259651/312 "2012-02-21T18:53:51Z")

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id personally increase the bore size rather than going with a stroker if the application allows tbh. but in a 4g, stroke is the only avenue

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**Author:** ![Eatonualive](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/eatonualive/32/6442_2.png) [@Eatonualive](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Eatonualive)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2012, 6:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-ride-impulse-buy-99-eclipse-gst-spyder/259651/313 "2012-02-21T18:54:49Z")

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> [@Some pics of the car](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/some-pics-of-the-car/48192/33):
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> Plus Juan.  
> Also all three will decrease the amount of time it’ll take to spool the turbo.

absolutely!

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**Author:** ![love4boost](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/love4boost/32/6658_2.png) [@love4boost](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/love4boost)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2012, 6:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-ride-impulse-buy-99-eclipse-gst-spyder/259651/314 "2012-02-21T18:55:50Z")

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> [@Think you've got balls?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/think-youve-got-balls/48308/22):
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> i know. but increasing the bore size will also increase power out put at any given psi setting. so will increasing your compression ratio.

bore/stroke is the same thing to me lol…

anyway, point is theres no way theres a 100% stock motor’d eclipse/dsm doing 9s

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**Author:** ![MillzB5](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9f8e36/32.png) [@MillzB5](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MillzB5)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2012, 6:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-ride-impulse-buy-99-eclipse-gst-spyder/259651/315 "2012-02-21T18:59:55Z")

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> [@Some pics of the car](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/some-pics-of-the-car/48192/33):
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> Plus Juan.

That shit made me:haha

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**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2012, 7:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-ride-impulse-buy-99-eclipse-gst-spyder/259651/316 "2012-02-21T19:06:21Z")

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> [@WTB:d series turbo kit/parts](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-d-series-turbo-kit-parts/48322/3):
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> id personally increase the bore size rather than going with a stroker if the application allows tbh. but in a 4g, stroke is the only avenue

Is there a complete stock internal (including head) DSM in the 9s?

> [@FS:HotTub](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-hottub/48314/7):
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> i was talking eclipses, but id be surprised if even an evo ran 9s with a stock head… real surprised.

[http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/vendor-announcements/370663-stm-puts-first-stock-block-evo-9s.html](http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/vendor-announcements/370663-stm-puts-first-stock-block-evo-9s.html)

Close.

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**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2012, 8:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-ride-impulse-buy-99-eclipse-gst-spyder/259651/317 "2012-02-21T20:23:18Z")

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> [@Cafe racer riders. Do you get used to it?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cafe-racer-riders-do-you-get-used-to-it/48326/2):
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> [http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/vendor-announcements/370663-stm-puts-first-stock-block-evo-9s.html](http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/vendor-announcements/370663-stm-puts-first-stock-block-evo-9s.html)
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> Close.

Shawn, love4boost keeps mentioning stock heads when you keep posting cars that have mods to the head, such as cams, springs, etc…

THINK WITH YOUR DIPSTICK

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**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2012, 8:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-ride-impulse-buy-99-eclipse-gst-spyder/259651/318 "2012-02-21T20:25:23Z")

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> [@FS: 1993 subaru legacy turbo](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-1993-subaru-legacy-turbo/48301/43):
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> Shawn, love4boost keeps mentioning stock heads when you keep posting cars that have mods to the head, such as cams, springs, etc…
> 
> THINK WITH YOUR DIPSTICK

I said “Close”!

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**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2012, 8:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-ride-impulse-buy-99-eclipse-gst-spyder/259651/319 "2012-02-21T20:31:07Z")

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> [@My experience with P and J Speedshop](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-experience-with-p-and-j-speedshop/48319/38):
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> I said “Close”!

Dude you know cams help a ton on these cars lol.

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**Author:** ![sbardy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8edcca/32.png) [@sbardy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sbardy)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2012, 8:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-ride-impulse-buy-99-eclipse-gst-spyder/259651/320 "2012-02-21T20:32:48Z")

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