# New Ride

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-ride/264506>\
**Category:** Shift518 Automotive\
**Created:** [July 25, 2012, 4:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-ride/264506 "2012-07-25T16:48:12Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 14\
**Page:** 2

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**Author:** ![MotoX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e95f7d/32.png) [@MotoX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MotoX)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2012, 5:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-ride/264506/21 "2012-07-27T17:30:03Z")

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> [@KrazyKid"](#):
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> There is soooo much more to “just a turbo upgrade” and swapping out a snail.
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> And on an engine that blows up on stock turbos with bolt ons and agressive tunes, even a bigger turbo (and supporting hardware) with a lax tune will still be pushing the limits hardcore with that motor.
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> Big turboing a subaru is more an all or nothing comitment than many other platforms. The turbo may be only $700, but the injectors, fuel pump, up pipe, down pipe, wastegate, intercooler, charge piping, tune, oil & coolant lines, etc cost 2-3 times that to get it running. Then cross your fingers the ringlands done crack off and take the bottom end out and make you drop another $2000+ in parts and machine work. Then clutch and flywheel to hold the power.
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> Its a shitty cat and mouse game. If you are not prepaired to just cut to the chase and shoot the mouse with a shot gun as soon as you see it, you will hate battle.

I had to read this twice to kind of understand it. From what I got out of it you think that I’m thinking of turboing it? Because it already has a turbo. The car also has been tuned for the bov and other mods, or so I’ve been told. When I meant by putting a larger turbo in the car I understand all of the other supporting factors to run a larger turbo, I was just too lazy to write it all out.

To possibly make this a bit simpler, I was looking into the STI turbo to upgrade from my stock one.

To make this easier I may jus stop by your shop to talk to you about all of this. I’ll be honest and tell you I don’t know much, but I know enough…

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**Author:** ![toomanycamaros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@toomanycamaros](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/toomanycamaros)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2012, 6:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-ride/264506/22 "2012-07-27T18:37:36Z")

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> [@KrazyKid"](#):
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> There is soooo much more to “just a turbo upgrade” and swapping out a snail.
> 
> And on an engine that blows up on stock turbos with bolt ons and agressive tunes, even a bigger turbo (and supporting hardware) with a lax tune will still be pushing the limits hardcore with that motor.
> 
> Big turboing a subaru is more an all or nothing comitment than many other platforms. The turbo may be only $700, but the injectors, fuel pump, up pipe, down pipe, wastegate, intercooler, charge piping, tune, oil & coolant lines, etc cost 2-3 times that to get it running. Then cross your fingers the ringlands done crack off and take the bottom end out and make you drop another $2000+ in parts and machine work. Then clutch and flywheel to hold the power.
> 
> Its a shitty cat and mouse game. If you are not prepaired to just cut to the chase and shoot the mouse with a shot gun as soon as you see it, you will hate battle.

The subie techs next door see failures almost once a week and we are in a small market. It’s a good motor in factory trim, but they really don’t hold up when over time when pushed w/o internal upgrades.

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**Author:** ![MotoX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e95f7d/32.png) [@MotoX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MotoX)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2012, 10:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-ride/264506/23 "2012-07-28T22:44:25Z")

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**Author:** ![20wrx09](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/20wrx09/32/6532_2.png) [@20wrx09](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/20wrx09)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2012, 11:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-ride/264506/24 "2012-07-29T11:41:31Z")

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Just go easy on the car. Hold off on the turbo upgrade. Get a GOOD SAFE tune and enjoy the car

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**Author:** ![cazwrx187](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cazwrx187/32/6388_2.png) [@cazwrx187](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cazwrx187)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2012, 3:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-ride/264506/25 "2012-07-29T15:08:14Z")

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Should’ve kept the bike

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**Author:** ![MotoX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e95f7d/32.png) [@MotoX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MotoX)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2012, 3:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-ride/264506/26 "2012-07-29T15:31:15Z")

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> [@Another new Whip - Go Go Gadjet Turbo Cobalt!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-new-whip-go-go-gadjet-turbo-cobalt/50306/6):
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> Should’ve kept the bike

Why do you say that?

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**Author:** ![cazwrx187](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cazwrx187/32/6388_2.png) [@cazwrx187](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cazwrx187)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2012, 4:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-ride/264506/27 "2012-07-29T16:06:51Z")

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> [@Callout: Mindless or any 11sec or better cars. slight\_smile](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/callout-mindless-or-any-11sec-or-better-cars/48316/923):
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> Why do you say that?

Just being sarcastic. I’ve owned a WRX and an STI and they were way more reliable than my A4 and Jetta, but that’s only because I took excellent care of them. Make sure you keep up with regular maintenance. Plugs, timing belt, water pump, coolant, oil, tranny fluid etc.

Find a stock BPV and get rid of the BOV. If you want to add a bigger turbo, find a Subaru VF34 or VF39. Both of those will make a modest increase in hp/tq and won’t be too hard on the driveline. Also, if the car still has a catted uppipe on it, get rid of it. A catless uppipe will give you the response of an n/a car with the stock TD04 turbo, plus you’ll get 5-10hp/tq and won’t have to worry about the cat falling apart and destroying your turbo.

Join [unysoc.org](http://unysoc.org) for any questions you have. That’s the local Subaru community. They are a great bunch of guys and will be more than happy to help you out.

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**Author:** ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2012, 10:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-ride/264506/28 "2012-07-30T10:54:03Z")

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> [@exaust ticket](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/exaust-ticket/50247/29):
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> I had to read this twice to kind of understand it. From what I got out of it you think that I’m thinking of turboing it? Because it already has a turbo. The car also has been tuned for the bov and other mods, or so I’ve been told. When I meant by putting a larger turbo in the car I understand all of the other supporting factors to run a larger turbo, I was just too lazy to write it all out.
> 
> To possibly make this a bit simpler, I was looking into the STI turbo to upgrade from my stock one.
> 
> To make this easier I may jus stop by your shop to talk to you about all of this. I’ll be honest and tell you I don’t know much, but I know enough…

How do you “know” its tuned, however its tuned? PO saying so isnt good proof. Regardless we can take a look at it and see what can be done, bolt stuff on, etc, but I wont be tuning it.

> [@Gun guys.. step in please.. buying my first gun](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-guys-step-in-please-buying-my-first-gun/50302/22):
>
> Just being sarcastic. I’ve owned a WRX and an STI and they were way more reliable than my A4 and Jetta, but that’s only because I took excellent care of them. Make sure you keep up with regular maintenance. Plugs, timing belt, water pump, coolant, oil, tranny fluid etc.
> 
> Find a stock BPV and get rid of the BOV. If you want to add a bigger turbo, find a Subaru VF34 or VF39. Both of those will make a modest increase in hp/tq and won’t be too hard on the driveline. Also, if the car still has a catted uppipe on it, get rid of it. A catless uppipe will give you the response of an n/a car with the stock TD04 turbo, plus you’ll get 5-10hp/tq and won’t have to worry about the cat falling apart and destroying your turbo.
> 
> Join [unysoc.org](http://unysoc.org) for any questions you have. That’s the local Subaru community. They are a great bunch of guys and will be more than happy to help you out.

This guy knows what hes talking about, from experience not hearsay. The +10hp isnt going to be night and day different, so its not exactly “worth it” to push the limits on a weak design. Freeing up the response is completely different. it will be more fun to drive, but not putting a great deal more stress on anything.

JUST DRIVE IT!!! Enjoy it for what it is, your not ever going to be the fastest WRX out there, and I bet you cant out drive the car as it sits now. So just focus on maintenance and enjoying it. Best advice anyone can give you, especially one who like making money off modding cars!!! :number1

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**Author:** ![MotoX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e95f7d/32.png) [@MotoX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MotoX)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2012, 1:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-ride/264506/29 "2012-08-11T13:12:08Z")

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Finally get the car on the road and start driving it, notice the clutch is shot. Any suggestions on what clutch to get? Also how hard is it to do it yourself? I have a friend who has done a few clutches in his cobalt so he’s willing to do it for me

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**Author:** ![20wrx09](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/20wrx09/32/6532_2.png) [@20wrx09](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/20wrx09)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2012, 5:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-ride/264506/30 "2012-08-11T17:25:31Z")

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easiest way to do a clutch is to pull the motor out, or you can just pull the radiator and move the motor forward. its time consuming but not difficult.

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**Author:** ![cazwrx187](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cazwrx187/32/6388_2.png) [@cazwrx187](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cazwrx187)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2012, 5:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-ride/264506/31 "2012-08-11T17:37:16Z")

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Dropping the transmission is the easiest way to do it. That’s what we did or m Sti and it was cake. The Wrx transmission is 100lbs light so it should be even easier.

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**Author:** ![MotoX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e95f7d/32.png) [@MotoX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MotoX)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2012, 10:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-ride/264506/32 "2012-08-12T10:31:17Z")

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Is it possible to do it without a lift?

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**Author:** ![cazwrx187](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cazwrx187/32/6388_2.png) [@cazwrx187](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cazwrx187)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2012, 10:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-ride/264506/33 "2012-08-12T10:33:12Z")

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Me and the mad scientist did it with 4 jackstands

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**Author:** ![20wrx09](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/20wrx09/32/6532_2.png) [@20wrx09](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/20wrx09)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2012, 12:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-ride/264506/34 "2012-08-12T12:39:02Z")

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i did josh’s clutch by dropping the transmission, and it sucked. we even had a lift and two other people helping (4 total) and it was still a pain in the dick to do.

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