# New Tires (Tweel) **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [May 10, 2006, 9:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-tires-tweel/11851 "2006-05-10T09:22:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![MaximaSE98](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/maximase98/32/7600_2.png) [@MaximaSE98](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MaximaSE98)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2006, 7:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-tires-tweel/11851/21 "2006-05-11T07:46:05Z")
> [@RuBiCaNT](#): > > Probably not a good idea to make a snow variation of these unless the enclose them with a slim piece of rubber on each side. thye should do that on all models just for pure looks ---
**Author:** ![Zong](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zong/32/7580_2.png) [@Zong](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zong)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2006, 8:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-tires-tweel/11851/22 "2006-05-11T08:08:33Z")
> [@RobY](#): > > im pretty sure the spokes weigh more than air. Maybe when the wheels are new but we all know how R&D works. They can’t make air lighter…well to a degree they can with nitrogen, but they can always make the spokes lighter ---
**Author:** ![AlbinoMonkeyRat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bb73d2/32.png) [@AlbinoMonkeyRat](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AlbinoMonkeyRat)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2006, 8:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-tires-tweel/11851/23 "2006-05-11T08:10:36Z")
> [@Muscle50](#): > > Guess that takes care of the whole slashing tires shit I guess nobody will ever think of scissors and just prune the spokes… for that reason alone, they need to put sidewalls on. ---
**Author:** ![longuyen88](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/longuyen88/32/7611_2.png) [@longuyen88](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/longuyen88)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2006, 5:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-tires-tweel/11851/24 "2006-05-13T05:31:56Z")
i like it, but what if you want to increase the “damping” force of those sidewall things? kinda equivalent to changing tire pressires. I guess you’ll have to stick with whatever rate tire you use. softer for dd, and harder for the track? any idea if these will go for sale? ---
**Author:** ![fairgentleman\_Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fairgentleman_z/32/7263_2.png) [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2006, 10:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-tires-tweel/11851/25 "2006-05-13T10:26:12Z")
> [@longuyen88](#): > > i like it, but what if you want to increase the “damping” force of those sidewall things? kinda equivalent to changing tire pressires. I guess you’ll have to stick with whatever rate tire you use. softer for dd, and harder for the track? Just have inserts… ---
**Author:** ![Twizted](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/twizted/32/7206_2.png) [@Twizted](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Twizted)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2006, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-tires-tweel/11851/26 "2006-05-13T11:29:16Z")
> [@98SS10](#): > > what the fuck am i supposed to do with all this tire shine! there is still a cpl centimeters u could use it on :lol: ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2011, 8:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-tires-tweel/11851/27 "2011-11-15T08:59:35Z")
Bump for another version. 🙂 [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOSAQjCbXZE&feature=related](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOSAQjCbXZE&feature=related) ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2019, 1:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-tires-tweel/11851/28 "2019-06-05T13:49:39Z")
Bump! Only a few years away? > GM and Michelin have partnered on the project with the aim of reaching production by 2024. > Not only does the Tweel mean that blowouts will be a thing of the past, punctures are no longer a worry, and you no longer have to deal with potholes destroying your sidewall, but there is a lot of potential for sports cars with lateral G-forces no longer subject to sidewall flex. You could potentially add back in a bit of the tire cushion we’ve lost in sports cars in a race for ever shorter sidewalls. Michelin could, for example, build a sporty Tweel with good vertical cushioning while maintaining lateral integrity. ![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/4/40c587fca0bcda6177ce842e502e5dafd9e1b6c4.jpeg) ![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/1/1e16f17270c13a88bb3f4152b594951908c7367e.jpeg) > **[The Tweel Revolution Is Coming](https://jalopnik.com/the-tweel-revolution-is-coming-1835252273)** > > Tire technology has advanced in leaps and bounds over my lifetime, and certainly over the last 15 years. Michelin have been trying to make Tweels a thing for as long as I can remember, and finally has GM on its side to develop a production-ready... ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2019, 2:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-tires-tweel/11851/29 "2019-06-05T14:03:34Z")
It will be interesting to see how you replace them. Looking at how it attaches to the rim my guess is the first version will be mounted to rims at the factory. Maybe they’ll have a core charge/swap type system where you get a new rim/tire combo and they take your existing rim/tire combo to be refurbished. Also curious how they stand up to slushy roads. The design looks like it would be susceptible to getting snow and ice packed into the open spaces and throwing the tires terribly out of balance. This happens now with traditional rims/tires and a traditional rim has the tire’s entire sidewall height to protect it from picking up slop. With a Tweel all you have is the thickness of the tread. ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2019, 4:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-tires-tweel/11851/30 "2019-06-05T16:13:32Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > It will be interesting to see how you replace them. I’d think the replacement interval would be longer, but more costly. Maybe someone will adapt them to regular wheels? ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2019, 4:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-tires-tweel/11851/31 "2019-06-05T16:16:08Z")
> [@Onyx\_Z32](#): > > I’d think the replacement interval would be longer, but more costly. I mean, if you’re the guy that bashes tires to death in potholes I suppose, but if you’re like most people that replace tires because they’re out of tread the interval will be the same. ---
**Author:** ![maxwell](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/maxwell/32/6524_2.png) [@maxwell](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/maxwell)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2019, 4:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-tires-tweel/11851/32 "2019-06-05T16:55:07Z")
It’s got to be fairly easy to cover up the open tire sides, i’d say that’s my only concern/visual issue at this point. Cool stuff, wasn’t even on my radar. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2019, 5:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-tires-tweel/11851/33 "2019-06-05T17:31:18Z")
Yeah, that’s a good point. Maybe it’s only open to show how it works. They could probably cover it with rubber without the reinforcements a traditional sidewall has. ---
**Author:** ![LUC1F3R](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/luc1f3r/32/7299_2.png) [@LUC1F3R](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LUC1F3R)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2019, 6:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-tires-tweel/11851/34 "2019-06-05T18:06:52Z")
Now how do we make some money and short the spike sticks industry? Eh by then the internet of things will be live and the cops will just shut down the car remotely ☹ ---
**Author:** ![HouseS2K](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/houses2k/32/100273_2.png) [@HouseS2K](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HouseS2K)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2019, 7:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-tires-tweel/11851/35 "2019-06-05T19:18:33Z")
I’m sure the 3 German brands are looking closely at them. Especially since most of the BMW M cars have Michelin’s made for them. ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2019, 6:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-tires-tweel/11851/36 "2019-06-20T18:03:51Z")
Get to about 1:15 in and you’ll see where they want to go with this… looks like organic looking wheel/tire combo things. Kinda looks like an eco wet dream… [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-tires-tweel/11851.md?page=1)