# New toy results... **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [November 27, 2009, 4:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-toy-results/76609 "2009-11-27T16:26:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![JEG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeg/32/7246_2.png) [@JEG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JEG)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2009, 10:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-toy-results/76609/21 "2009-11-29T10:44:41Z")
> [@ProgRocker](#): > > Yep, although if you’re in a firefight against the enemy picking out that distinctive sounds at the end of the cartridge would be nearly impossible. So the “ping” of the last round thing is somewhat of a myth. Not a myth at all. Thousands of soldiers lost their lives due to that sound. Like it was said before, they would take an empty clip and throw it on the ground to produce the “ping” sound, then shoot the guys in the dome when they poped their heads out to shoot while the soldier was reloading. ---
**Author:** ![jt76](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jt76/32/5100_2.png) [@jt76](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jt76)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2009, 12:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-toy-results/76609/22 "2009-11-29T12:20:48Z")
> [@Penfold](#): > > I have a 1913 Enfield that has the steel butt plate as well. If I am doing a lot of shooting I usually wrap a towel around the end to save my shoulder. thats a P14 enfield if its chambered for .303 or if its .30 (30-06) its a US M1917… we copied the British design (which was meant to replace the MKIII enfield, but never did) because we didnt have enough M1903 springfields, and we already had 3 factories in the US producing them for the British. I have always wanted one of these, but in orig configuration, looks like someone made yours into a hunting rifle, unless its one of the ones made by Remington as a sporting rifle after WWI, but these are VERY rare. ![http://www.freewebs.com/historyofww2/m1917%20enfield.jpg](http://www.freewebs.com/historyofww2/m1917%20enfield.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2009, 1:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-toy-results/76609/23 "2009-11-29T13:33:48Z")
> [@JEG](#): > > Not a myth at all. Thousands of soldiers lost their lives due to that sound. Like it was said before, they would take an empty clip and throw it on the ground to produce the “ping” sound, then shoot the guys in the dome when they poped their heads out to shoot while the soldier was reloading. Yes, but during intense fighting unless your behind the gun, that ping sound would be almost inaudible. ---
**Author:** ![AFhockey31](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/afhockey31/32/5086_2.png) [@AFhockey31](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AFhockey31)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2009, 2:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-toy-results/76609/24 "2009-11-29T14:04:05Z")
> [@ProgRocker](#): > > Yes, but during intense fighting unless your behind the gun, that ping sound would be almost inaudible. [![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/3/a/3a80a11fd466db7d686c607b598f49eba8bc8709.jpeg "Top Ten Combat Rifles- M1 Garand") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvMcSnOMxkk) ---
**Author:** ![jt76](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jt76/32/5100_2.png) [@jt76](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jt76)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2009, 2:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-toy-results/76609/25 "2009-11-29T14:14:13Z")
you cant really hear the clip popping out, unless your the one firing the rifle… here is me shooting, you can only hear it once it hits the stones on the ground. In the noise of combat idk if it would really be the issue that TV shows make it out to be. ---
**Author:** ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2009, 3:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-toy-results/76609/26 "2009-11-29T15:36:46Z")
> [@jt76](#): > > you cant really hear the clip popping out, unless your the one firing the rifle… here is me shooting, you can only hear it once it hits the stones on the ground. In the noise of combat idk if it would really be the issue that TV shows make it out to be. > > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jk4c26572YE](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jk4c26572YE) Exactly now multiply that sound x 5-10 and tell me you can hear that clip ping. The M1 is anything but quiet. ---
**Author:** ![Penfold](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/penfold/32/5007_2.png) [@Penfold](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Penfold)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2009, 4:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-toy-results/76609/27 "2009-11-30T04:06:49Z")
> [@jt76](#): > > thats a P14 enfield if its chambered for .303 or if its .30 (30-06) its a US M1917… we copied the British design (which was meant to replace the MKIII enfield, but never did) because we didnt have enough M1903 springfields, and we already had 3 factories in the US producing them for the British. I have always wanted one of these, but in orig configuration, looks like someone made yours into a hunting rifle, unless its one of the ones made by Remington as a sporting rifle after WWI, but these are VERY rare. > > ![http://www.freewebs.com/historyofww2/m1917%20enfield.jpg](http://www.freewebs.com/historyofww2/m1917%20enfield.jpg) It is the 30-06 As far as I know my grandfather put the hunting stock on it. ---
**Author:** ![JEG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeg/32/7246_2.png) [@JEG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JEG)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2009, 6:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-toy-results/76609/28 "2009-11-30T06:45:03Z")
> [@ProgRocker](#): > > Exactly now multiply that sound x 5-10 and tell me you can hear that clip ping. The M1 is anything but quiet. Yeah they are very loud. But suprisingly not as loud as a .243. It was my first time firing one. DAMN that thing was LOUD! I’ve shot a few high powered riffles (.30-30, .30-06, .308, 7.62x39, & the .243).The .243 was suprisingly the loudest so far. ---
**Author:** ![jt76](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jt76/32/5100_2.png) [@jt76](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jt76)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2009, 10:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-toy-results/76609/29 "2009-11-30T10:32:58Z")
> [@Penfold](#): > > It is the 30-06 > > As far as I know my grandfather put the hunting stock on it. oh nice, you have yourself a M1917 Enfield then… is it made by Eddystone, Remington or Winchester? These were only made 2 years, 1917 and 1918, unless the barrel was trimmed or the front sight covers it, it should have the date and mfg on it as well (ex 12-17 for dec 1917 with a E, R, or W and the ordanance flaming bomb insignia) ---
**Author:** ![TORQDSS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/torqdss/32/5125_2.png) [@TORQDSS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TORQDSS)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2009, 6:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-toy-results/76609/30 "2009-11-30T18:41:08Z")
> [@jt76](#): > > oh nice, you have yourself a M1917 Enfield then… is it made by Eddystone, Remington or Winchester? These were only made 2 years, 1917 and 1918, unless the barrel was trimmed or the front sight covers it, it should have the date and mfg on it as well (ex 12-17 for dec 1917 with a E, R, or W and the ordanance flaming bomb insignia) let us know, I’m interested to see what you’ve got. ---
**Author:** ![Penfold](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/penfold/32/5007_2.png) [@Penfold](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Penfold)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 2:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-toy-results/76609/31 "2009-12-01T02:41:16Z")
it says 12- 18 and has the flaming bomb but I cant find the letter other than U S ---
**Author:** ![Penfold](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/penfold/32/5007_2.png) [@Penfold](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Penfold)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 2:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-toy-results/76609/32 "2009-12-01T02:49:05Z")
after taking the gun apart, I did find an R underneath the chamber, along with a few other markings. ---
**Author:** ![jt76](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jt76/32/5100_2.png) [@jt76](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jt76)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 6:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-toy-results/76609/33 "2009-12-01T06:45:30Z")
the top of your reciever should show where it was made, as well as the serial #… for example ![http://www.highspeedlane.net/m1917/1917rcvr.jpg](http://www.highspeedlane.net/m1917/1917rcvr.jpg) above the flaming bomb should be a E, R or W for the mfg of the barrel, ![http://thepaulkfamily.com/gunweb/Pictures/m1917Eddystone/m1917Eddystone_barrel.jpg](http://thepaulkfamily.com/gunweb/Pictures/m1917Eddystone/m1917Eddystone_barrel.jpg) yours may be hidden by your front sight that someone added. The parts marked with R would denote remington, any parts marked E would be eddystone, parts with W (yes suprise) Winchester. Other little odds and ends, like letters or numbers in squares, triangles etc are just inspector markings. If the receiver etc is parkerized odds are it was refinished in the 30’s and early 40’s for WWII, they were used by us for training and some were shipped to Britian under lend lease (it would have british acceptance marks, crown or arrow markings). If the Reciever still has bluing, its the original finish, and odds are it was sold as Surplus prior to WWII. A lot of history in this rifle! ---
**Author:** ![Penfold](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/penfold/32/5007_2.png) [@Penfold](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Penfold)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 11:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-toy-results/76609/34 "2009-12-01T11:27:14Z")
hmmm, the flaming bomb and letter are not covered by the sight, they simply are not there in the same location as the picture shows. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-toy-results/76609.md?page=1)