# New Toy

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-toy/203251>\
**Category:** Builds\
**Created:** [July 22, 2009, 10:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-toy/203251 "2009-07-22T22:37:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 4

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**Author:** ![YellowZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/edb3f5/32.png) [@YellowZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/YellowZ)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2009, 12:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-toy/203251/61 "2009-09-11T12:15:38Z")

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Damn. I just told my wife last night that I should trade my 350z for one of these since I have a baby now and could use the back seat. I was not expecting a pass that quick in a nearly stock car.

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**Author:** ![Darkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2009, 7:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-toy/203251/62 "2009-09-11T19:10:07Z")

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i award you with -50 cool points for driving up and down East Carson revving your shit.

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**Author:** ![BoostedYards86](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boostedyards86/32/6048_2.png) [@BoostedYards86](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BoostedYards86)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2009, 9:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-toy/203251/63 "2009-09-11T21:56:30Z")

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pretty sure i went down once. and the girl in the passenger seat was getting a kick out of it…u do know what girls are right 😉

> [@Bing the Sequel: I is a daddy](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bing-the-sequel-i-is-a-daddy/41062/28):
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> Me and Fran are good friends , I was just saying let’s run the m3 because it went 12.83 at 110 he went 12.74 I think 1/4 mile it could be a fun race , don’t lie Steve I attempted to give you theb20 bucks but you said no because you wanted him to hand it to you personally

i’m down. say when…better be soon. blower will be here monday LOL.

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**Author:** ![Darkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 9:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-toy/203251/64 "2009-09-12T09:02:49Z")

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> [@Lets Play Name This Sensor and Help with Rough Start/Idle!!!! Civic-D15B7](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lets-play-name-this-sensor-and-help-with-rough-start-idle-civic-d15b7/41080/11):
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> pretty sure i went down once. and the girl in the passenger seat was getting a kick out of it…u do know what girls are right 😉

my girlfriend would make fun of me for doing that. :kekegay:

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**Author:** ![tjZ28](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de0a6/32.png) [@tjZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tjZ28)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2009, 7:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-toy/203251/65 "2009-09-13T19:05:26Z")

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Did you get it tuned w/ the headers etc. yet? I’d expect more MPH.

-TJ

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**Author:** ![SK360](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sk360/32/5933_2.png) [@SK360](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SK360)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2009, 7:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-toy/203251/66 "2009-09-13T19:20:32Z")

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He tuned it with the headers… 112 trap is quite stout for a full exhaust car 😉

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**Author:** ![Quik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/quik/32/5979_2.png) [@Quik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Quik)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2009, 10:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-toy/203251/67 "2009-09-13T22:10:10Z")

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> [@Heading to NYC this weekend, What to do?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/heading-to-nyc-this-weekend-what-to-do/41094/13):
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> He tuned it with the headers… 112 trap is quite stout for a full exhaust car 😉

seen catback LS1s trap 110-111

the LS3 camaro should be every bit faster

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**Author:** ![BigMack\_Srt8](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bigmack_srt8/32/6025_2.png) [@BigMack\_Srt8](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigMack_Srt8)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2009, 10:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-toy/203251/68 "2009-09-13T22:13:06Z")

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ya i guess the fact that its heavier doesnt affect it at all ? :stick:

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**Author:** ![Quik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/quik/32/5979_2.png) [@Quik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Quik)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2009, 10:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-toy/203251/69 "2009-09-13T22:16:35Z")

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> [@The 5 most annoying programs on your PC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-5-most-annoying-programs-on-your-pc/41095/9):
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> ya i guess the fact that its heavier doesnt affect it at all ? :stick:

lets not hijack it even more. 400rwhp should take care of the 300lbs difference

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**Author:** ![danhr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@danhr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/danhr)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 4:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-toy/203251/70 "2009-09-14T04:46:57Z")

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here comes the bench racing

Very nice car btw

Can I stick my penis in it’s tail pipe?

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**Author:** ![spoolinsteve](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/spoolinsteve/32/6026_2.png) [@spoolinsteve](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/spoolinsteve)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 7:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-toy/203251/71 "2009-09-14T19:32:16Z")

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maybe fran will let you do him since he swings both ways

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**Author:** ![flyinglow57](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/flyinglow57/32/5978_2.png) [@flyinglow57](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/flyinglow57)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 8:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-toy/203251/72 "2009-09-14T20:50:21Z")

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> [@how fast can you type?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-fast-can-you-type/41098/7):
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> seen catback LS1s trap 110-111
> 
> the LS3 camaro should be every bit faster

always an insult when u talk about someones car besides yours

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**Author:** ![Quik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/quik/32/5979_2.png) [@Quik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Quik)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 8:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-toy/203251/73 "2009-09-15T08:38:35Z")

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> [@Official: "Anyone else sick?" thread.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-anyone-else-sick-thread/20782/74):
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> always an insult when u talk about someones car besides yours

sorry not an insult. Fran has a nice car, i was speaking in general on the whole performance of the new camaro

new camaro has a bigger motor with over 100 HP more and runs slower then the 4th gens.

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**Author:** ![Pewter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pewter/32/5936_2.png) [@Pewter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pewter)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 8:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-toy/203251/74 "2009-09-15T08:57:06Z")

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How’s that,they both did 12’.80’s stock!!

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**Author:** ![Quik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/quik/32/5979_2.png) [@Quik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Quik)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 9:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-toy/203251/75 "2009-09-15T09:08:25Z")

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> [@Suburban Auto Tdown](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/suburban-auto-tdown/41018/24):
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> How’s that,they both did 12’.80’s stock!!

yes but one has over 100 more hp even tho its 300lbs more thats only 3/10s  
100more hp and not mention almost 100 lbft is usually good for 8-9/10s gain.

new camaro with its weight and etc should be .5 faster then a 02 SS

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**Author:** ![danhr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@danhr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/danhr)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 9:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-toy/203251/76 "2009-09-15T09:48:22Z")

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well lets see…

99% of that extra weight is rotating mass from the wheels since the new camaro needs bling and you can’t get it with a lighter 16" wheel.

the tires are a ridiculous 28.7" tall compared to the 4th gen’s 25.7"

and then let’s factor in the new camaro’s drivetrain. Yes the motor has about 100 more hp/tq than the good ole LS1, but compare what both cars are typically dyno’ing at. All that new/heavy drivetrain and IRS soaks up a lot of HP, and the end result is there being only a ~50-60 hp difference between the two. So you basically have an extra 50-60 rwhp to make up for that 300 lbs, not 100.

Don’t even get me started on the stupid IRS crap

There’s a guy on ls1tech that is setting all the 2010 camaro records, and when he was headers/tune only, he was trapping about 112 mph @ a 2000 DA(seems about on par with BoostedYards86’s). I think he has now ended up running like 11.8 @ 116 with bolt ons, tune, and using 18’s af full (3800 #) weight.

So there are your reasons why the new camaro is blowing the doors off of the 4th gen f-bodies.

/ricer math  
/bench racing

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**Author:** ![SoLow](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/solow/32/6001_2.png) [@SoLow](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SoLow)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 9:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-toy/203251/77 "2009-09-15T09:51:46Z")

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quik ur truck made how much power & u only ran a 12 sec pass :rolleyes:

> [@Wedding DJ](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wedding-dj/41105/3):
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> well lets see…
> 
> 99% of that extra weight is rotating mass from the wheels since the new camaro needs bling and you can’t get it with a lighter 16" wheel.
> 
> the tires are a ridiculous 28.7" tall compared to the 4th gen’s 25.7"
> 
> and then let’s factor in the new camaro’s drivetrain. Yes the motor has about 100 more hp/tq than the good ole LS1, but compare what both cars are typically dyno’ing at. All that new/heavy drivetrain and IRS soaks up a lot of HP, and the end result is there being only a ~50-60 hp difference between the two. So you basically have an extra 50-60 rwhp to make up for that 300 lbs, not 100.
> 
> Don’t even get me started on the stupid IRS crap
> 
> There’s a guy on ls1tech that is setting all the 2010 camaro records, and when he was headers/tune only, he was trapping about 112 mph @ a 2000 DA(seems about on par with BoostedYards86’s). I think he has now ended up running like 11.8 @ 116 with bolt ons, tune, and using 18’s.
> 
> So there are your reasons why the new camaro is blowing the doors off of the 4th gen f-bodies.
> 
> /ricer math  
> /bench racing

quik JR:blah:

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**Author:** ![danhr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@danhr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/danhr)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 10:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-toy/203251/78 "2009-09-15T10:06:14Z")

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> [@What is a good first car??????](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-is-a-good-first-car/41068/54):
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> quik JR:blah:

danhr JR.

both figuritevly and literally.

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**Author:** ![Pewter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pewter/32/5936_2.png) [@Pewter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pewter)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 10:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-toy/203251/79 "2009-09-15T10:14:43Z")

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Pleas stop whoring this mans project thread,Thank u!

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**Author:** ![Quik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/quik/32/5979_2.png) [@Quik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Quik)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 2:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-toy/203251/80 "2009-09-15T14:24:43Z")

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> [@What is a good first car??????](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-is-a-good-first-car/41068/54):
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> quik ur truck made how much power & u only ran a 12 sec pass :rolleyes:
> 
> quik JR:blah:

dont even speak tape recorder. and 12.1 at 121 on 13psi with a 2.4 60’ isnt to shabby for 2nd attempt weighing in close to 4700 race weight and my truck wasnt built by GM.

what have you ever done besides get all highed the fuck up and wreck into a telephonepole mulitiple times?

> [@Wedding DJ](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wedding-dj/41105/3):
>
> well lets see…
> 
> 99% of that extra weight is rotating mass from the wheels since the new camaro needs bling and you can’t get it with a lighter 16" wheel.
> 
> the tires are a ridiculous 28.7" tall compared to the 4th gen’s 25.7"
> 
> and then let’s factor in the new camaro’s drivetrain. Yes the motor has about 100 more hp/tq than the good ole LS1, but compare what both cars are typically dyno’ing at. All that new/heavy drivetrain and IRS soaks up a lot of HP, and the end result is there being only a ~50-60 hp difference between the two. So you basically have an extra 50-60 rwhp to make up for that 300 lbs, not 100.
> 
> Don’t even get me started on the stupid IRS crap
> 
> There’s a guy on ls1tech that is setting all the 2010 camaro records, and when he was headers/tune only, he was trapping about 112 mph @ a 2000 DA(seems about on par with BoostedYards86’s). I think he has now ended up running like 11.8 @ 116 with bolt ons, tune, and using 18’s af full (3800 #) weight.
> 
> So there are your reasons why the new camaro is blowing the doors off of the 4th gen f-bodies.
> 
> /ricer math  
> /bench racing

exactly the engineers ruined this car. it has always been a straight line performer. IRS is for corning but since yuppies wanted a car that rode smooth they used a IRS. FIgured the car with its new price tag would go after another kind of crowd. as for wheel size that goes right there with trying to keep up with the Jones. Fact is still with the LS3 or L99 it doesnt live up to the name. the New t56 it runs isnt as strong as they claim either.

i like the car’s looks but the driveline isnt ideal for straightline performance and is talked down my plenty of ppl.

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