# new toys for the upcoming track day.

**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-toys-for-the-upcoming-track-day/46103
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive
**Created:** [April 2, 2008, 2:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-toys-for-the-upcoming-track-day/46103 "2008-04-02T14:25:17Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)
#### Post date: [April 2, 2008, 2:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-toys-for-the-upcoming-track-day/46103/1 "2008-04-02T14:25:17Z")

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since getting track tires, my car went from nice and neutral to having a lot of under steer…

so to fix that I present my new toys:

\>25MM REAR SWAY BAR  
\>NEW SWAY BAR BUSHINGS  
\>STOUT MOUNTS  
\>ADJUSTABLE END LINKS

I got this all for the insanely cheap price of $333 shipped thanks to a deal being run by perrin.

![http://www.perrinperformance.com/shared/images/products/160/284_medium.jpg](http://www.perrinperformance.com/shared/images/products/160/284_medium.jpg) ![http://www.perrinperformance.com/shared/images/products/160/426_medium.jpg](http://www.perrinperformance.com/shared/images/products/160/426_medium.jpg)  
 ![http://www.perrinperformance.com/shared/images/products/160/425_medium.jpg](http://www.perrinperformance.com/shared/images/products/160/425_medium.jpg) ![http://www.perrinperformance.com/shared/images/products/160/287_medium.jpg](http://www.perrinperformance.com/shared/images/products/160/287_medium.jpg)  
 ![http://www.perrinperformance.com/shared/images/products/161/427_medium.jpg](http://www.perrinperformance.com/shared/images/products/161/427_medium.jpg) ![http://www.perrinperformance.com/shared/images/products/161/429_medium.jpg](http://www.perrinperformance.com/shared/images/products/161/429_medium.jpg)

can’t wait to throw them on and dial it in.

I’m also planning to lower the front of my car and add just a little more camber - but I can’t do that until I close on my new house due to already having problems getting into my current driveway.

check out this before vs. after on the mount:

![http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2368/2339685588_8a19e27502.jpg?v=0](http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2368/2339685588_8a19e27502.jpg?v=0)  
 ![http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3012/2339684576_58a7527ecb.jpg?v=0](http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3012/2339684576_58a7527ecb.jpg?v=0)

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### Author: ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)
#### Post date: [April 2, 2008, 3:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-toys-for-the-upcoming-track-day/46103/2 "2008-04-02T15:02:17Z")

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Nice change in mount style, wanna let me borrow it before you install it?

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### Author: ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)
#### Post date: [April 2, 2008, 3:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-toys-for-the-upcoming-track-day/46103/3 "2008-04-02T15:04:33Z")

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you want to borrow the mount? Perrin does sell just the mounts for $134 before any sort of discount. We could arrange something if you’re thinking it might work on one of your projects.

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### Author: ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)
#### Post date: [April 2, 2008, 5:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-toys-for-the-upcoming-track-day/46103/4 "2008-04-02T17:55:46Z")

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I am, just wanna hold it up and see if it fits wont be mounting it or anything 😉

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### Author: ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)
#### Post date: [April 2, 2008, 6:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-toys-for-the-upcoming-track-day/46103/5 "2008-04-02T18:22:32Z")

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Good to see the house isn’t cramping your car-parts buying style 😛

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### Author: ![ldp82](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b3f665/32.png) [@ldp82](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ldp82)
#### Post date: [April 2, 2008, 7:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-toys-for-the-upcoming-track-day/46103/6 "2008-04-02T19:07:42Z")

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very nice:)

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### Author: ![SoloIIscoob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/35a633/32.png) [@SoloIIscoob](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SoloIIscoob)
#### Post date: [April 2, 2008, 8:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-toys-for-the-upcoming-track-day/46103/7 "2008-04-02T20:22:46Z")

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good choice

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### Author: ![psychopjv](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/psychopjv/32/7251_2.png) [@psychopjv](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/psychopjv)
#### Post date: [April 2, 2008, 9:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-toys-for-the-upcoming-track-day/46103/8 "2008-04-02T21:15:58Z")

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:tup:

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### Author: ![16vCorvette](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/1/b487fb/32.png) [@16vCorvette](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/16vCorvette)
#### Post date: [April 2, 2008, 11:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-toys-for-the-upcoming-track-day/46103/9 "2008-04-02T23:18:04Z")

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What suspension do you have on the car ?

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### Author: ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)
#### Post date: [April 3, 2008, 10:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-toys-for-the-upcoming-track-day/46103/10 "2008-04-03T10:19:32Z")

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buddy club racing spec with a custom spring/valve, 7k front, 9k rear, whiteline front roll center correction kit.

mike: I’m sure we can work something out.

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### Author: ![Tevenor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8baadc/32.png) [@Tevenor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Tevenor)
#### Post date: [April 3, 2008, 10:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-toys-for-the-upcoming-track-day/46103/11 "2008-04-03T10:49:18Z")

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I need to take a ride in your setup soon. 😃

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### Author: ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)
#### Post date: [April 3, 2008, 11:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-toys-for-the-upcoming-track-day/46103/12 "2008-04-03T11:08:12Z")

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sure thing… best when combined with the nitto NT01s 😃

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### Author: ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)
#### Post date: [April 3, 2008, 11:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-toys-for-the-upcoming-track-day/46103/13 "2008-04-03T11:32:32Z")

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Nice pickup.

:tup:

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### Author: ![Zong](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zong/32/7580_2.png) [@Zong](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zong)
#### Post date: [April 3, 2008, 11:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-toys-for-the-upcoming-track-day/46103/14 "2008-04-03T11:52:38Z")

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> [@theblue"](#):
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> since getting track tires, my car went from nice and neutral to having a lot of under steer…

wat?

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### Author: ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)
#### Post date: [April 3, 2008, 2:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-toys-for-the-upcoming-track-day/46103/15 "2008-04-03T14:23:32Z")

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with a lot more traction, the character of the car changed. The car just pushed into turns a lot more.

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### Author: ![Xander](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/xander/32/7597_2.png) [@Xander](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Xander)
#### Post date: [April 3, 2008, 2:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-toys-for-the-upcoming-track-day/46103/16 "2008-04-03T14:31:52Z")

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Sweet, track day mods. That will actually be put to use! :tup:

X…

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### Author: ![Garick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8797f3/32.png) [@Garick](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Garick)
#### Post date: [April 3, 2008, 5:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-toys-for-the-upcoming-track-day/46103/17 "2008-04-03T17:53:40Z")

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I’m envious of all the nice parts you suby guys get. People actually think of bumpsteer/roll centers?

Could you tell me more about what is included in the roll center correction kit?

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### Author: ![copperlegend](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/copperlegend/32/7445_2.png) [@copperlegend](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/copperlegend)
#### Post date: [April 4, 2008, 5:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-toys-for-the-upcoming-track-day/46103/18 "2008-04-04T05:42:34Z")

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> [@Garick](#):
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> I’m envious of all the nice parts you suby guys get. People actually think of bumpsteer/roll centers?
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> Could you tell me more about what is included in the roll center correction kit?

That isn’t a Subaru…

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### Author: ![Zong](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zong/32/7580_2.png) [@Zong](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zong)
#### Post date: [April 4, 2008, 5:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-toys-for-the-upcoming-track-day/46103/19 "2008-04-04T05:54:14Z")

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> [@theblue](#):
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> with a lot more traction, the character of the car changed. The car just pushed into turns a lot more.

This doesn’t make sense, somehow you gained traction in the rear and lost traction in the front?

edit: nice mods though

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### Author: ![Tevenor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8baadc/32.png) [@Tevenor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Tevenor)
#### Post date: [April 4, 2008, 6:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-toys-for-the-upcoming-track-day/46103/20 "2008-04-04T06:20:51Z")

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> [@Zong](#):
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> This doesn’t make sense, somehow you gained traction in the rear and lost traction in the front?
> 
> edit: nice mods though

Or he gained **more** traction in the rear versus the gain in traction of the front which still unbalance the car compared to previous setup. Considering that with the 3-legged stance these cars tend to have on sharp turn ins ( soft springs, rigid chassis, horrible roll center ) in stock form, efforts to keep the rear wheels on the ground tend to add to the overall grip potential but change the dynamic state of the car significantly.

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