# New York Life?

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-york-life/71977>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\
**Created:** [August 11, 2009, 9:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-york-life/71977 "2009-08-11T09:43:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 19\
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**Author:** ![Smaefer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@Smaefer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Smaefer)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2009, 9:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-york-life/71977/1 "2009-08-11T09:43:58Z")

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Does anyone here or know someone who is/has worked for New York Life?  
I know the first year is the major breaking point to get through and that most don’t last the first 6 months. Anyone have any input on working in the insurance field?

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**Author:** ![ieatpaint](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ieatpaint/32/7311_2.png) [@ieatpaint](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ieatpaint)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2009, 9:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-york-life/71977/2 "2009-08-11T09:45:57Z")

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just PM willybeen.

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**Author:** ![Smaefer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@Smaefer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Smaefer)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2009, 9:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-york-life/71977/3 "2009-08-11T09:51:35Z")

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> [@ieatpaint315](#):
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> just PM willybeen.

He works there?

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**Author:** ![Motocrossx23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/motocrossx23/32/5120_2.png) [@Motocrossx23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Motocrossx23)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2009, 9:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-york-life/71977/4 "2009-08-11T09:57:00Z")

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Yeah Willybeen is your man

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**Author:** ![Geehee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/geehee/32/7238_2.png) [@Geehee](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Geehee)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2009, 10:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-york-life/71977/5 "2009-08-11T10:00:01Z")

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My buddy john just starting working there. claims to like it.

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**Author:** ![ieatpaint](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ieatpaint/32/7311_2.png) [@ieatpaint](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ieatpaint)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2009, 10:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-york-life/71977/6 "2009-08-11T10:01:09Z")

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he used to work there, he sells shit in FL now.

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**Author:** ![Smaefer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@Smaefer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Smaefer)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2009, 10:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-york-life/71977/7 "2009-08-11T10:09:44Z")

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> [@Geehee](#):
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> My buddy john just starting working there. claims to like it.

That’s good because I’ve read a ton of mixed reviews. I just don’t want to get into something if it’s going to be as bad as what I read. They told me they will give salary for the first three years until I get established, but then I read that it’s a scam and that the training is very poor.  
Just looking for a little feedback before Monday, so thanks for the info.

> [@ieatpaint315](#):
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> he used to work there, he sells shit in FL now.

Okay. thanks.

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**Author:** ![Geehee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/geehee/32/7238_2.png) [@Geehee](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Geehee)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2009, 10:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-york-life/71977/8 "2009-08-11T10:12:42Z")

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> [@Smaefer](#):
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> That’s good because I’ve read a ton of mixed reviews. I just don’t want to get into something if it’s going to be as bad as what I read. They told me they will give salary for the first three years until I get established, but then I read that it’s a scam and that the training is very poor.  
> Just looking for a little feedback before Monday.

I honestly dont think hes doing nearly as well as he is saying he is doing. But then again he didnt just sip the koolaid he fucking got a keg of it and is doing a kegstand.

They prolly get a bad rap from people who think they are gonna make bank right away, they go through their friends/family, then have no other prospects, and fail hard.

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**Author:** ![Motocrossx23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/motocrossx23/32/5120_2.png) [@Motocrossx23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Motocrossx23)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2009, 10:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-york-life/71977/9 "2009-08-11T10:16:11Z")

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It’s all about personality, as Willybeen told me before. Your not selling life insurance, you’re selling yourself to the person. New prospects are made on the belief that this person that is selling the insurance is here to take care of ME, not just try to shove a product in my face and jump ship.

That’s probably why many people fail hard, they are already close to family/friends so selling to them is easy, it’s complete strangers that is their downfall.

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**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2009, 10:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-york-life/71977/10 "2009-08-11T10:26:18Z")

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Ugh, I can’t imagine trying to sell a product that #1 guarantees you will pay money for something you’ll never see in your lifetime, and #2 gives other people incentive for you to be dead.

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**Author:** ![Smaefer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@Smaefer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Smaefer)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2009, 10:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-york-life/71977/11 "2009-08-11T10:33:41Z")

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> [@Joe](#):
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> Ugh, I can’t imagine trying to sell a product that #1 guarantees you will pay money for something you’ll never see in your lifetime, and #2 gives other people incentive for you to be dead.

They sell other things than just life insurance. You have long term care and investment annuities.

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**Author:** ![Smaefer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@Smaefer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Smaefer)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2009, 10:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-york-life/71977/12 "2009-08-11T10:38:07Z")

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> [@Motocrossx23](#):
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> It’s all about personality, as Willybeen told me before. Your not selling life insurance, you’re selling yourself to the person. New prospects are made on the belief that this person that is selling the insurance is here to take care of ME, not just try to shove a product in my face and jump ship.
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> That’s probably why many people fail hard, they are already close to family/friends so selling to them is easy, it’s complete strangers that is their downfall.

I understand that seeing I’ve been in retail my whole life, so I get that concept.

As for family, that’s out because my old man works for Mass Mutual. So he’s already hit the whole family up. lol  
He’s also advised against me going into this line of work because of the economy and that people are not spending money and people my age are not buying. He said it is way to hard for a young guy to start off in this line of work. Not sure if he’s just blowing smoke up my ass or not.

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**Author:** ![Geehee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/geehee/32/7238_2.png) [@Geehee](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Geehee)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2009, 10:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-york-life/71977/13 "2009-08-11T10:45:37Z")

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Thats my line of thinking as well, and something I told my buddy. He claims completely the opposite, that people are actually looking to drop coin on this right now.

Either way, the one point that I could not argue when we were discussing his options on this was that if he was gonna take a chance and risk it, why not right now? 26, no family, etc, etc… Much better than if he was married with kids.

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**Author:** ![Smaefer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@Smaefer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Smaefer)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2009, 10:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-york-life/71977/14 "2009-08-11T10:52:39Z")

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> [@Geehee](#):
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> Thats my line of thinking as well, and something I told my buddy. He claims completely the opposite, that people are actually looking to drop coin on this right now.
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> Either way, the one point that I could not argue when we were discussing his options on this was that if he was gonna take a chance and risk it, why not right now? 26, no family, etc, etc… Much better than if he was married with kids.

How long has he been there for now? I heard the training is not so great and they toss you right into the field. This is the reason alloty of people can’t make it from what I read. The whole training process is just not there. Is his pay based on full commission or does he make base plus commission?  
My main concern is will I be able to make enough to still pay rent/car patment/bills? I don’t mind if I have to strugle the first year but I don’t want to sink either.

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**Author:** ![Geehee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/geehee/32/7238_2.png) [@Geehee](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Geehee)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2009, 10:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-york-life/71977/15 "2009-08-11T10:57:26Z")

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he just started maybe a month or so ago, but hes been talking to them, taking tests/getting certifications, blahblahblah for at least 6-8 months.

I’m not really sure how he gets paid, but I know he does receive some commission.

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**Author:** ![dubbin91](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecccb3/32.png) [@dubbin91](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dubbin91)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2009, 11:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-york-life/71977/16 "2009-08-11T11:13:14Z")

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Pretty much your selling a product for a company. I would say stay the hell away from it. Your pretty much a salesman if you get into it, its hard work and other than insurance your selling a product that is not in the best intrest of the client…just my .02 cents

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**Author:** ![Willybeen](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/willybeen/32/7351_2.png) [@Willybeen](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Willybeen)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2009, 12:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-york-life/71977/17 "2009-08-11T12:01:28Z")

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:hi:

just pm me your number if you want to know the good/bad/ugly. It’s a great company, their training is wonderful.

Which office were you going to work for?

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**Author:** ![cougarspeed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cougarspeed/32/7468_2.png) [@cougarspeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cougarspeed)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2009, 12:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-york-life/71977/18 "2009-08-11T12:09:33Z")

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I am friends with two people who have been there for many years. Both are doing very well and like what they do. Hell the one guy has been there over 20 years.

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**Author:** ![Smaefer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@Smaefer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Smaefer)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2009, 12:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-york-life/71977/19 "2009-08-11T12:10:31Z")

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> [@Willybeen](#):
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> :hi:
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> just pm me your number if you want to know the good/bad/ugly. It’s a great company, their training is wonderful.
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> Which office were you going to work for?

Thanks Willy, sending you a PM now.
