# New York needs to raise taxes **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [August 8, 2008, 6:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-york-needs-to-raise-taxes/52933 "2008-08-08T06:14:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2008, 10:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-york-needs-to-raise-taxes/52933/61 "2008-08-08T10:56:33Z")
omgz +karma ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2008, 11:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-york-needs-to-raise-taxes/52933/62 "2008-08-08T11:03:37Z")
> [@Joe](#): > > The racist vote scares us just as much. Don’t worry. Heh, at least you admit it’s probably an issue. I love these idiots that look at some poll that says race isn’t an issue and think it’s true. They’re called closet racists for a reason. When a pollster calls up and says, “Would you ever vote for a black president” not many people are going to come right out and say, “oh hell no, I don’t want none of them black people running shit”. They’ll think it, but they’ll answer something like, “I would consider it blah blah”. And no, it doesn’t make me feel good at all that I’m counting on the racist vote. How do you feel about the fact that something like 95+% of black people are Obama supporters though? Seems like an awful high percentage of people if they’re voting entirely on issues. I guess the country isn’t as color blind as they like to claim in polls. ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2008, 11:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-york-needs-to-raise-taxes/52933/63 "2008-08-08T11:03:56Z")
> [@JoesTypeS](#): > > So sit down, shut the fuck up about “oh it’s my money, I shouldn’t have to pay taxes if I don’t want to, boo fucking hoo” You go figure out a way to have a functioning society without social programs (that doesn’t turn into a police state) and I’ll give you a big cookie. Maybe you and AWDrifter can go live off the grid together, enjoy living off nature (you know that thing we dirty liberals try to keep preserved and clean with YOUR money) Well now that we have conditioned generations of people to expect hand outs AND NEVER FUCKING WORK A DAY IN THEIR LIVES it will be much harder but I am willing to try. We can start by ending welfare and minimum wage which would also help us compete on the global level. Start baking. ---
**Author:** ![JoesTypeS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joestypes/32/7190_2.png) [@JoesTypeS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JoesTypeS)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2008, 11:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-york-needs-to-raise-taxes/52933/64 "2008-08-08T11:05:04Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > Heh, at least you admit it’s probably an issue. I love these idiots that look at some poll that says race isn’t an issue and think it’s true. > > They’re called closet racists for a reason. When a pollster calls up and says, “Would you ever vote for a black president” not many people are going to come right out and say, “oh hell no, I don’t want none of them black people running shit”. They’ll think it, but they’ll answer something like, “I would consider it blah blah”. > > And no, it doesn’t make me feel good at all that I’m counting on the racist vote. How do you feel about the fact that something like 95+% of black people are Obama supporters though? Seems like an awful high percentage of people if they’re voting entirely on issues. I guess the country isn’t as color blind as they like to claim in polls. Kerry got 80%+ of the black vote ---
**Author:** ![JoesTypeS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joestypes/32/7190_2.png) [@JoesTypeS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JoesTypeS)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2008, 11:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-york-needs-to-raise-taxes/52933/65 "2008-08-08T11:06:58Z")
> [@AWDrifter](#): > > Well now that we have conditioned generations of people to expect hand outs AND NEVER FUCKING WORK A DAY IN THEIR LIVES it will be much harder but I am willing to try. > We can start by ending welfare and minimum wage which would also help us compete on the global level. > Start baking. Who? Please show me the millions of people who do nothing ever and live like kings and queens. Please show me all the people who get nothing but handouts and never work a day in their lives. Yeah let’s end minimum wage :roll: ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2008, 11:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-york-needs-to-raise-taxes/52933/66 "2008-08-08T11:10:37Z")
85% of minorities vote democrat and 85% of racists vote republican anyway. This year it will probably be more like 95% of each. ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2008, 11:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-york-needs-to-raise-taxes/52933/67 "2008-08-08T11:12:57Z")
> [@JoesTypeS](#): > > Who? Please show me the millions of people who do nothing ever and live like kings and queens. Please show me all the people who get nothing but handouts and never work a day in their lives. > > Yeah let’s end minimum wage :roll: I didn’t say they lived like kings and queens. Should they? Are you denying that there are people like this? Wouldn’t it be much easier for you to move to Europe than to try to bring this country down? What is your motivation to drag the US down to the level of other places. Please just move to a socialist country. I will buy your plane ticket. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2008, 11:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-york-needs-to-raise-taxes/52933/68 "2008-08-08T11:16:34Z")
> [@Joe](#): > > 85% of minorities vote democrat and 85% of racists vote republican anyway. This year it will probably be more like 95% of each. So the deciding factor could be if there are more racists whites, or racist minorities. I love politics. ---
**Author:** ![fiend540](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bcef8e/32.png) [@fiend540](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fiend540)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2008, 11:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-york-needs-to-raise-taxes/52933/69 "2008-08-08T11:16:43Z")
Reguardless of your political offiliation does anyone in this thread really think what ny needs is a tax increase over political and social reform? ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Stevil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@Dr.Stevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dr.Stevil)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2008, 11:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-york-needs-to-raise-taxes/52933/70 "2008-08-08T11:18:33Z")
NO ---
**Author:** ![JoesTypeS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joestypes/32/7190_2.png) [@JoesTypeS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JoesTypeS)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2008, 11:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-york-needs-to-raise-taxes/52933/71 "2008-08-08T11:28:37Z")
> [@AWDrifter](#): > > I didn’t say they lived like kings and queens. > Should they? > Are you denying that there are people like this? > > Wouldn’t it be much easier for you to move to Europe than to try to bring this country down? > What is your motivation to drag the US down to the level of other places. > Please just move to a socialist country. > I will buy your plane ticket. I’m saying that the amount of people “cheating the system” pales in comparison to the amount of people who are legitimately being helped. Drag this country down? Please then sir, tell me what you think the country should do. Don’t forget to take into account crime, prisons, roads, utilities, education, etc… Please show me a better way of making sure EVERYONE has the ability to get a top rate education regardless of the class they’re born into. ---
**Author:** ![turbociv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@turbociv](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/turbociv)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2008, 11:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-york-needs-to-raise-taxes/52933/72 "2008-08-08T11:41:12Z")
imho i think we need to worry about nys before the country wince it directly effects us. We need to trim the fat and i kinda like Golisano’s ideas on getting rid of half the god damn village/town and city board members. Unfortunetly with the rise in gas prices and the effrect its taking on the drivers the government isnt making nearly enough to pay to fix our roads/highways through taxes so that money is gunna have to come from somewhere as well. I dont realy care who is elected presedent cause either way, taxes need to go up. But if i need to give more i want to see my government make an effort by trimming fat. Too many state employees/workers. Why does the government get to have there cake and eat it too? This seems like a losing battle but what can ya do? id like to think our voices make a difference but lets be real here. We are just the puppets hanging from strings. theres not much we can do.☹ ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2008, 11:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-york-needs-to-raise-taxes/52933/73 "2008-08-08T11:44:58Z")
^ Agreed, NYers really need to wake up and pay attention to their state government. And BTW, that’s not Golisano’s plan, it’s Kevin Gaughans. Tommy Boy is just throwing some money behind it. [http://www.thecost.org/default.htm](http://www.thecost.org/default.htm) ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2008, 11:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-york-needs-to-raise-taxes/52933/74 "2008-08-08T11:48:19Z")
As long as we are in the land of the impossible(or nearly)… First take a poll.:biglaugh: No really take a poll: What do you beleive is the answer to your problems? 1. Government 2. Family, freinds, church, charitable organizations After getting the poll results, “guide” people that choose 1 east of the Mississippi River. “Guide” people that choose 2 west of the Mississippi River. Where do you want to be Joe? East or West, which people do you want to live with Joe? There is the answer to your question.😃 I HAVE A DREAM! ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2008, 11:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-york-needs-to-raise-taxes/52933/75 "2008-08-08T11:49:43Z")
religious extremists would clearly say 2. Who’s going to run it, the church? ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2008, 11:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-york-needs-to-raise-taxes/52933/76 "2008-08-08T11:50:59Z")
> [@Joe](#): > > government has solved more problems than church :gotme: Source? Too fast for you.😃 ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2008, 11:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-york-needs-to-raise-taxes/52933/77 "2008-08-08T11:53:58Z")
> [@Joe](#): > > religious extremists would clearly say 2. Who’s going to run it, the church? That question is a fine display of your thought process. Who is going to run what? What is “it”? ---
**Author:** ![turbociv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@turbociv](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/turbociv)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2008, 11:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-york-needs-to-raise-taxes/52933/78 "2008-08-08T11:56:23Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > ^ Agreed, NYers really need to wake up and pay attention to their state government. > > And BTW, that’s not Golisano’s plan, it’s Kevin Gaughans. Tommy Boy is just throwing some money behind it. > > [http://www.thecost.org/default.htm](http://www.thecost.org/default.htm) wow, good link. Now im realy depressed. those statistics are realy scary. How does this kinda stuff go unnoticed. ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2008, 11:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-york-needs-to-raise-taxes/52933/79 "2008-08-08T11:57:12Z")
> [@AWDrifter](#): > > That question is a fine display of your thought process. > > Who is going to run what? > > What is “it”? Your anarchical society west of the mississippi? I mean, all of the infrastructure that the government built will only hold up so long… I mean, is every road going to have a toll? Do private police swipe your credit card before investigating a crime against you? Do tell. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2008, 12:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-york-needs-to-raise-taxes/52933/80 "2008-08-08T12:00:17Z")
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