# Newbies with Liter bikes. **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Automotive\ **Created:** [April 19, 2010, 8:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/newbies-with-liter-bikes/251608 "2010-04-19T20:24:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Oleg](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/oleg/32/6276_2.png) [@Oleg](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Oleg)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2010, 5:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/newbies-with-liter-bikes/251608/61 "2010-04-20T17:36:05Z")
> [@Another reason why Canada sucks...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-reason-why-canada-sucks/31218/6): > > Im in the market for a bike… first time rider… Would like to know what bike is best for me. > > Suzuki 1300 Hyabusa or Kawasaki Ninja ZX14? Actually it’s best to weld two of those together, twice the power and very stable in turns. ---
**Author:** ![AMD\_IS\_THE\_BEST](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/amd_is_the_best/32/6342_2.png) [@AMD\_IS\_THE\_BEST](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AMD_IS_THE_BEST)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2010, 5:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/newbies-with-liter-bikes/251608/62 "2010-04-20T17:37:33Z")
There can be as many of these threads started as you’d like; nothing will changed and the same arguments will be made. Lock 1 ---
**Author:** ![AMD\_IS\_THE\_BEST](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/amd_is_the_best/32/6342_2.png) [@AMD\_IS\_THE\_BEST](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AMD_IS_THE_BEST)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2010, 5:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/newbies-with-liter-bikes/251608/63 "2010-04-20T17:39:44Z")
double post ---
**Author:** ![Oleg](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/oleg/32/6276_2.png) [@Oleg](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Oleg)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2010, 5:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/newbies-with-liter-bikes/251608/64 "2010-04-20T17:40:46Z")
I don’t see any deleted posts in this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Johawk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/johawk/32/6284_2.png) [@Johawk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Johawk)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2010, 5:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/newbies-with-liter-bikes/251608/65 "2010-04-20T17:41:03Z")
> [@Oleg"](#): > > Actually it’s best to weld two of those together, twice the power and very stable in turns. Thanks! Paging Hank for a new project… And LOCK 2 ---
**Author:** ![AMD\_IS\_THE\_BEST](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/amd_is_the_best/32/6342_2.png) [@AMD\_IS\_THE\_BEST](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AMD_IS_THE_BEST)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2010, 5:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/newbies-with-liter-bikes/251608/66 "2010-04-20T17:48:59Z")
> [@The baby blue shark hood neon tried chasing me down...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-baby-blue-shark-hood-neon-tried-chasing-me-down/30686/405): > > I don’t see any deleted posts in this thread. I though it was, just happened to be on the next page. Internet fail. ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2010, 5:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/newbies-with-liter-bikes/251608/67 "2010-04-20T17:51:23Z")
> [@Wannabe racers @ Dunville (or.... more BS than your nose can stand)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wannabe-racers-dunville-or-more-bs-than-your-nose-can-stand/31221/7): > > might as well take it slow and learn on the bike you intend on buying one day anyway, because each bike is different so either way you will have to relearn or alter what you learned on a smaller machine when you step up anyway. Yeah, screw learning on a small plane and all that nonsense, I’ll start out by flying a 747 so I don’t have to re-learn later. Ah what the F, gimme an F16 I have no time for small game. No reason to buy a liter as a first bike other than bragging rights. “Hey, I’ll spend **more** money, buy a machine that’s **harder** to control and will make DAMN sure I don’t use that throttle and take it easy”. :banghead ---
**Author:** ![pootmasterflex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7ea924/32.png) [@pootmasterflex](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/pootmasterflex)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2010, 5:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/newbies-with-liter-bikes/251608/68 "2010-04-20T17:58:40Z")
Irishwerd00 started on a gsxr750 because there were no more 600’s rode for a month and bought a gsxr1000 and to this day hes one of the best riders I have ridden with ---
**Author:** ![usmc2801](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/usmc2801/32/6387_2.png) [@usmc2801](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/usmc2801)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2010, 5:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/newbies-with-liter-bikes/251608/69 "2010-04-20T17:59:56Z")
> [@Vovchandr"](#): > > Yeah, screw learning on a small plane and all that nonsense, I’ll start out by flying a 747 so I don’t have to re-learn later. Ah what the F, gimme an F16 I have no time for small game. > > No reason to buy a liter as a first bike other than bragging rights. > > “Hey, I’ll spend **more** money, buy a machine that’s **harder** to control and will make DAMN sure I don’t use that throttle and take it easy”. :banghead Vlad cmon thats a terrible comparison, even a 250 handling to a 1000 is a hell of a lot more close then a small airplane to a 747 or F16, now you are just getting carried away! ---
**Author:** ![usmc2801](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/usmc2801/32/6387_2.png) [@usmc2801](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/usmc2801)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2010, 6:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/newbies-with-liter-bikes/251608/70 "2010-04-20T18:01:33Z")
> [@Dyno: Shop cobalt broke 300wheel](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dyno-shop-cobalt-broke-300wheel/31200/7): > > Irishwerd00 started on a gsxr750 because there were no more 600’s rode for a month and bought a gsxr1000 and to this day hes one of the best riders I have ridden with Bingo! McCabe is def one of the best riders I have ridden with as well (although I don’t think he is even on this forum Premo lol) Some people just don’t belong on bikes it doesn’t matter what they start on! ---
**Author:** ![pootmasterflex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7ea924/32.png) [@pootmasterflex](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/pootmasterflex)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2010, 6:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/newbies-with-liter-bikes/251608/71 "2010-04-20T18:04:30Z")
> [@want sportbike for 2000](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/want-sportbike-for-2000/31008/17): > > Bingo! McCabe is def one of the best riders I have ridden with as well (although I don’t think he is even on this forum Premo lol) Some people just don’t belong on bikes it doesn’t matter what they start on! and the worst part is all i did was give him a crash course in riding a bike lol then off to griffens we went ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2010, 6:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/newbies-with-liter-bikes/251608/72 "2010-04-20T18:06:03Z")
You guys act like I’m the only person in the world who believes that it’s a bad idea [http://www.lasplash.com/publish/cat\_index\_Vehicles/time-bomb.php](http://www.lasplash.com/publish/cat_index_Vehicles/time-bomb.php) [http://www.1000rr.net/forums/showthread.php?t=47318](http://www.1000rr.net/forums/showthread.php?t=47318) [http://www.sportbikes.net/forums/general-sportbikes/318205-i-think-liter-bikes-should-banned.html](http://www.sportbikes.net/forums/general-sportbikes/318205-i-think-liter-bikes-should-banned.html) [http://forums.cycleworld.com/showthread.php?t=173229](http://forums.cycleworld.com/showthread.php?t=173229) [http://www.600rr.net/vb/showthread.php?t=150023&highlight=bigger+argument](http://www.600rr.net/vb/showthread.php?t=150023&highlight=bigger+argument) > **[2008 Kawasaki ZX6 vs ZX10 - Does Size Matter?](https://www.superstreetbike.com/2008-kawasaki-zx6-vs-zx10-does-size-matter)** > > Can A Mildly Modded 600 Keep Up With A Stock Liter Bike On The Streets? [http://www.sportbikez.net/forum/f6/beginner-buying-1000cc-bikes-15098/](http://www.sportbikez.net/forum/f6/beginner-buying-1000cc-bikes-15098/) [http://www.cyclechaos.com/4um/f10/literbike-first-bike-really-bad-idea-21082/](http://www.cyclechaos.com/4um/f10/literbike-first-bike-really-bad-idea-21082/) But I’m sure ALL these people have **no idea** what they are talking about. Plus the _stupid_ instructors at Track Days or MSF course who say the same thing should just learn to how ride and man up to get a bigger bike ![http://www.benbarnesforum.de/forum/phpBB3/images/smilies/2014_whistling_and_rolling_eyes.gif](http://www.benbarnesforum.de/forum/phpBB3/images/smilies/2014_whistling_and_rolling_eyes.gif) ---
**Author:** ![usmc2801](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/usmc2801/32/6387_2.png) [@usmc2801](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/usmc2801)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2010, 6:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/newbies-with-liter-bikes/251608/73 "2010-04-20T18:08:27Z")
> [@Another reason why Canada sucks...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-reason-why-canada-sucks/31218/12): > > You guys act like I’m the only person in the world who believes that it’s a bad idea > > [http://www.lasplash.com/publish/cat\_index\_Vehicles/time-bomb.php](http://www.lasplash.com/publish/cat_index_Vehicles/time-bomb.php) > > [Log in | Honda CBR 1000RR Forums](http://www.1000rr.net/forums/showthread.php?t=47318) > > [I think liter bikes should be banned | Sport Bikes](http://www.sportbikes.net/forums/general-sportbikes/318205-i-think-liter-bikes-should-banned.html) > > [http://forums.cycleworld.com/showthread.php?t=173229](http://forums.cycleworld.com/showthread.php?t=173229) > > [The "Bigger Bike" Argument | Honda CBR 600RR Forum](http://www.600rr.net/vb/showthread.php?t=150023&highlight=bigger+argument) > > [http://www.superstreetbike.com/roadtests/0808\_sbkp\_2008\_kawasaki\_zx6\_vs\_zx10/gear\_ratios\_and\_facts.html](http://www.superstreetbike.com/roadtests/0808_sbkp_2008_kawasaki_zx6_vs_zx10/gear_ratios_and_facts.html) > > [http://www.sportbikez.net/forum/f6/beginner-buying-1000cc-bikes-15098/](http://www.sportbikez.net/forum/f6/beginner-buying-1000cc-bikes-15098/) > > [CycleChaos](http://www.cyclechaos.com/4um/f10/literbike-first-bike-really-bad-idea-21082/) > > And I can go on. Just because your not the only one who thinks its a bad idea doesn’t mean you are right. ---
**Author:** ![pootmasterflex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7ea924/32.png) [@pootmasterflex](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/pootmasterflex)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2010, 6:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/newbies-with-liter-bikes/251608/74 "2010-04-20T18:09:36Z")
> [@want sportbike for 2000](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/want-sportbike-for-2000/31008/17): > > Bingo! McCabe is def one of the best riders I have ridden with as well (although I don’t think he is even on this forum Premo lol) Some people just don’t belong on bikes it doesn’t matter what they start on! agreed some people dont belong on bikes period bikes take respect and self control and learning to ride within your abilities granted I wouldnt put my g/f who has never rode anything on a liter bike but I am confident after I taught her on a 600 I know she would handle a 1000 with no problem ---
**Author:** ![Oleg](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/oleg/32/6276_2.png) [@Oleg](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Oleg)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2010, 6:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/newbies-with-liter-bikes/251608/75 "2010-04-20T18:18:09Z")
> [@Another reason why Canada sucks...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-reason-why-canada-sucks/31218/13): > > Just because your not the only one who thinks its a bad idea doesn’t mean you are right. All the years here I have yet to hear a good argument against starting on a small bike. Examples of guys staring big, sure, heard those, but no arguments. Pointless topic, ride whatever the hell you want. I wish they sold busas cheap so all the Darwin candidates would just get those and stop driving up the prices for insurance on 600s. ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2010, 6:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/newbies-with-liter-bikes/251608/76 "2010-04-20T18:18:32Z")
> [@Another reason why Canada sucks...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-reason-why-canada-sucks/31218/13): > > Just because your not the only one who thinks its a bad idea doesn’t mean you are right. What about the MSF/Track instructors who _teach_ people how to ride having the same viewpoint? Don’t forget, and you know this damn well that just about **EVERY** motorcycle community will agree with my view point, that starting on a liter is stupid. ---
**Author:** ![tdi\_logik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tdi_logik/32/6310_2.png) [@tdi\_logik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tdi_logik)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2010, 6:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/newbies-with-liter-bikes/251608/77 "2010-04-20T18:23:45Z")
maybe its a bad idea for you but not for another ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2010, 6:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/newbies-with-liter-bikes/251608/78 "2010-04-20T18:30:52Z")
Yeah riding without a helmet is a great idea too. There are plenty of people that ride without them and survived. Must be a fantastic idea. I’ll go start a new trend. Street racing is genius too, I see people do it all the time and don’t die, where is the harm? Ooooh let’s not forget drugs. Plenty of people alive after doing them, where do I sign up. ---
**Author:** ![usmc2801](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/usmc2801/32/6387_2.png) [@usmc2801](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/usmc2801)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2010, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/newbies-with-liter-bikes/251608/79 "2010-04-20T18:35:16Z")
> [@NYSpeed Track Day #1 - Friday June 15th, 2007](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nyspeed-track-day-1-friday-june-15th-2007/26320/535): > > Yeah riding without a helmet is a great idea too. > > There are plenty of people that ride without them and survived. > > Must be a fantastic idea. > > I’ll go start a new trend. > > Street racing is genius too, I see people do it all the time and don’t die, where is the harm? > > Ooooh let’s not forget drugs. > > Plenty of people alive after doing them, where do I sign up. Now you are comparing stupidity with choice of bike! I myself would never ride without a helmet but there are still states that don’t require it, thats a majority vote for that so obviously there are a lot of people who think its ok just like you think people shouldn’t start on a liter bike, to each his own Vlad. Makes no sense, for instance you know McCabe, he is like 6’4, him on a 250 or 600 is not a comfortable bike for him, so you are saying that its better for him to ride a bike that he is completely uncomfortable riding on then getting a 1000 because it suits his body size more? ---
**Author:** ![Oleg](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/oleg/32/6276_2.png) [@Oleg](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Oleg)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2010, 6:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/newbies-with-liter-bikes/251608/80 "2010-04-20T18:41:40Z")
I suppose to ride a busa you’d need to be about Shaq-sized then. This is getting silly. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/newbies-with-liter-bikes/251608.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/newbies-with-liter-bikes/251608.md?page=5)