# Newer VW and no keys, how screwed?

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**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [October 12, 2007, 2:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/newer-vw-and-no-keys-how-screwed/36904 "2007-10-12T14:52:58Z")\
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And to add to this, there are two separate programming steps:

1. if the car has the immobiliser system (most '01 and later), then the car has to be taken to the dealership, and the keys matched to the instrument cluster. I have the ability to do this, but cannot get the 7 digit key code from the dealers
2. the remote transmitter needs to be programmed to the car in order for keyless entry to work. You need at least two working keys to do this yourself

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