# Ninety1two40's 240sx **URL:** \ **Category:** Builds\ **Created:** [April 17, 2008, 5:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ninety1two40s-240sx/236483 "2008-04-17T05:46:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 64
**Author:** ![Wayne64SS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wayne64ss/32/6365_2.png) [@Wayne64SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wayne64SS)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 10:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ninety1two40s-240sx/236483/1261 "2010-01-14T10:47:06Z")
> [@FS: Lots and lots of 360 stuff](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-lots-and-lots-of-360-stuff/26219/46): > > Im very serious, but want to pull the motor and gut the interior first. I already have a good idea where to weld brackets to mount the cylinders too. We can probably get away with a 8" cylinder, the suspension travel is less than 2". The speed of the system doesnt matter. Will we have to install a spring return on the cylinder though? Yes a spring will definitely be needed… the weight of the car will be enough to collapse the cylinder while its in the air but you’re going to need something to get it the rest of the way once the weight is back on the suspension. I’m thinking of fabricating a box (1/8" steel comes to mind) right in front of the rear wheel which will protrude up into the car approx 4". welded on top of the box will be cylindrical donut (same exact one used on hydro cars) that will locate the cylinder. We need to design this around the cylinder as we are going to need to weld the cylinder collar to this donut in order to keep the cylinder up inside the car. This will make the actual case and guts replaceable from inside the car should they need to be rebuilt. inside the “box” on each side of the cylinder will be a bolt in (from inside the car) spring mount where we can just clip on a spring. The spring is going to need to have tension on it when the cylinder is fully retracted. This is going to be the worst part I think, is finding a spring that can sustain that kind of extension. Design #2 would be a 2 way cylinder out of say a tractor or something with the ability to move both ways under power. It will require a slight bit more fabrication and plumbing but we can still use a single pump 🙂 On 12v no matter what you do this is not going to operate fast at all, in fact it’s really going to come down to cylinder size and pumphead gear / pressure to see if it even really lifts on 12v. There may be a better gear combo than a lowrider pump for this design, we are going to have to look at pumpheads and do some calculations. ---
**Author:** ![Wayne64SS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wayne64ss/32/6365_2.png) [@Wayne64SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wayne64SS)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 10:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ninety1two40s-240sx/236483/1262 "2010-01-14T10:50:20Z")
Shit I just thought of something… I think it was prestolite but I can’t remember exactly … either way someone at one point was making a 6v motor for lowrider pumps. the benefit to this is that running a 6v motor on 12v is essentially the same as running a 12v motor on 24v you’re going to significantly increase the torque output of the motor and thus the pressure generated by the pump. I bet a 6v motor would do it with just a #6 Marzocchi gear. ---
**Author:** ![ninety1two40](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ninety1two40/32/6332_2.png) [@ninety1two40](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ninety1two40)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 10:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ninety1two40s-240sx/236483/1263 "2010-01-14T10:54:20Z")
Ohhh I like how this sounds! My idea was similar for cylinder placement. However, I’m unibody :-(. I’d like to mount it to the rear subframe (in front of the wheel), than cut a hole in the floor for the cylinder to poke though. ---
**Author:** ![Wayne64SS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wayne64ss/32/6365_2.png) [@Wayne64SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wayne64SS)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 11:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ninety1two40s-240sx/236483/1264 "2010-01-14T11:01:42Z")
unibody or not if you build the box area around where the lift point is the metal should be strong enough to support the weight of the car… its a lift point! May require a little bit of fabrication and bracing but it sure would be a pun project! My idea for the bottom of the cylinder (usually cylinder itself is threaded) is just a metal plate with a stud in the center (to screw into the spring) and 2 hooks to put the other end of the springs on. I really think this would work and be a fun ass project. The worst part of it is goign to be the springs i think. ---
**Author:** ![ninety1two40](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ninety1two40/32/6332_2.png) [@ninety1two40](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ninety1two40)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 11:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ninety1two40s-240sx/236483/1265 "2010-01-14T11:19:46Z")
What if we tapped off the power steering pump for hydraulic power. Some Hummers have hydraulic winches that run off the power steering pump. ---
**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 11:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ninety1two40s-240sx/236483/1266 "2010-01-14T11:20:03Z")
[http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/productdetails.asp?RecID=6208&y=b36&iorb=4764](http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/productdetails.asp?RecID=6208&y=b36&iorb=4764) get someone to go halvsies with ya and split the kit ---
**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 11:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ninety1two40s-240sx/236483/1267 "2010-01-14T11:20:41Z")
> [@4/29 Backroad Cruise](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4-29-backroad-cruise/28218/22): > > What if we tapped off the power steering pump for hydraulic power. Some Hummers have hydraulic winches that run off the power steering pump. they probably have pumps/hydro system specifically designed for that purpose though ---
**Author:** ![ninety1two40](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ninety1two40/32/6332_2.png) [@ninety1two40](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ninety1two40)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 11:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ninety1two40s-240sx/236483/1268 "2010-01-14T11:24:13Z")
> [@91-96 Caprice parts FS](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/91-96-caprice-parts-fs/28084/6): > > [http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/productdetails.asp?RecID=6208&y=b36&iorb=4764](http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/productdetails.asp?RecID=6208&y=b36&iorb=4764) > > get someone to go halvsies with ya and split the kit Ksport makes a kit alot cheaper, Id have to deal with air tanks ect. Hydraulic winch: > **[Truck Winches | AmericanTrucks](https://www.americantrucks.com/truck-winches-accessories.html)** > > AmericanTrucks offers a large selection of truck winches accessories for Ford, Dodge, Chevy, and GMC trucks. Shop now at AmericanTrucks.com. ---
**Author:** ![Wayne64SS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wayne64ss/32/6365_2.png) [@Wayne64SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wayne64SS)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 11:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ninety1two40s-240sx/236483/1269 "2010-01-14T11:45:26Z")
> [@4/29 Backroad Cruise](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4-29-backroad-cruise/28218/22): > > What if we tapped off the power steering pump for hydraulic power. Some Hummers have hydraulic winches that run off the power steering pump. I dunno about any of that man. What I do know is that the absolute cheapest way out is going to be a set of 8s, 1 pump, 1 dump, 1 slowdown, and 1 check. 2 lines. Only need one solenoid, and a single switch. This is assuming the spring idea would work to retract the cylinder. best part is you don’t need a serious pump for any of this, could even grab a used one if you could score it cheap enough. ---
**Author:** ![ninety1two40](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ninety1two40/32/6332_2.png) [@ninety1two40](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ninety1two40)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 11:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ninety1two40s-240sx/236483/1270 "2010-01-14T11:57:34Z")
Used is probably the way I would go. ---
**Author:** ![Wayne64SS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wayne64ss/32/6365_2.png) [@Wayne64SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wayne64SS)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 12:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ninety1two40s-240sx/236483/1271 "2010-01-14T12:07:23Z")
Def… the way without the spring would be by using 3 dumps and 2 Y blocks. Not prohibitively expensive! ---
**Author:** ![GATVILLE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gatville/32/6362_2.png) [@GATVILLE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GATVILLE)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 2:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ninety1two40s-240sx/236483/1272 "2010-01-14T14:15:48Z")
> [@IDEAS wanted: good restaurants at the falls](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ideas-wanted-good-restaurants-at-the-falls/28342/3): > > Why don’t you move that pile out of the way so your brother can work on a real car? :thumbup i have to rip out the rear and all suspension! ---
**Author:** ![ninety1two40](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ninety1two40/32/6332_2.png) [@ninety1two40](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ninety1two40)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 3:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ninety1two40s-240sx/236483/1273 "2010-01-14T15:00:12Z")
^ You will take it out and then do what? You don’t have anything to replace it with. :lol ---
**Author:** ![Wallace](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wallace/32/6345_2.png) [@Wallace](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wallace)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 3:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ninety1two40s-240sx/236483/1274 "2010-01-14T15:27:12Z")
lol why not save the money and buy some better wheels steve. you can jack from the rear tow hook and that works fine. ---
**Author:** ![ninety1two40](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ninety1two40/32/6332_2.png) [@ninety1two40](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ninety1two40)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 7:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ninety1two40s-240sx/236483/1275 "2010-01-14T19:10:11Z")
I wont be able to jack wid da kit on it!! It should be cheap to juice it! :rofl ---
**Author:** ![GATVILLE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gatville/32/6362_2.png) [@GATVILLE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GATVILLE)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 7:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ninety1two40s-240sx/236483/1276 "2010-01-14T19:13:15Z")
mmm joose! ---
**Author:** ![Wayne64SS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wayne64ss/32/6365_2.png) [@Wayne64SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wayne64SS)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 7:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ninety1two40s-240sx/236483/1277 "2010-01-14T19:13:39Z")
at least one of you isn’t scared to juice a car! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![GATVILLE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gatville/32/6362_2.png) [@GATVILLE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GATVILLE)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 7:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ninety1two40s-240sx/236483/1278 "2010-01-14T19:21:29Z")
> [@Where To Buy CLAY for Clay Bar Detailing???](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/where-to-buy-clay-for-clay-bar-detailing/28281/18): > > at least one of you isn’t scared to juice a car! 😉 :thumbup ---
**Author:** ![SRS\_BZNS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/srs_bzns/32/6375_2.png) [@SRS\_BZNS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SRS_BZNS)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 8:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ninety1two40s-240sx/236483/1279 "2010-01-14T20:51:40Z")
mmmm jews. ---
**Author:** ![Wallace](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wallace/32/6345_2.png) [@Wallace](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wallace)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 9:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ninety1two40s-240sx/236483/1280 "2010-01-14T21:06:02Z")
i forgot you are gonna be running a kit this year. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ninety1two40s-240sx/236483.md?page=63) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ninety1two40s-240sx/236483.md?page=65)