# Nissan Design - 50th Anniversary **URL:** \ **Category:** Canada Nissan Automotive\ **Created:** [December 11, 2006, 6:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nissan-design-50th-anniversary/132523 "2006-12-11T18:46:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![dubv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@dubv](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dubv)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2006, 6:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nissan-design-50th-anniversary/132523/1 "2006-12-11T18:46:32Z")
Here is something for all the real nissan fans … This Nissan website includes many nice concepts and market Nissan cars most of the pictures are high resolution …enjoy 🙂 some pics: [![http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/9180/concept1987mid4pi0.jpg](http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/9180/concept1987mid4pi0.jpg)](http://imageshack.us) [![http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/9316/concept1977ad2jg1.jpg](http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/9316/concept1977ad2jg1.jpg)](http://imageshack.us) [![http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/1690/concept1993apxzc3.jpg](http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/1690/concept1993apxzc3.jpg)](http://imageshack.us) [![http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/7672/concept1997trailrunnergw1.jpg](http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/7672/concept1997trailrunnergw1.jpg)](http://imageshack.us) check the link for more high resolution pictures and information… [http://www.nissannews.com/multimedia/nd\_50\_anni.shtml](http://www.nissannews.com/multimedia/nd_50_anni.shtml) ---
**Author:** ![renegade141](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ba8739/32.png) [@renegade141](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/renegade141)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2006, 7:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nissan-design-50th-anniversary/132523/2 "2006-12-11T19:23:28Z")
as soon as i saw the first pic, i thought it was a nsx ---
**Author:** ![XuperXero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/ea5d25/32.png) [@XuperXero](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/XuperXero)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2006, 7:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nissan-design-50th-anniversary/132523/3 "2006-12-11T19:29:46Z")
what the hell is the last pic suppose to be? a rally car? so \*\*\*\*ing high off the ground ---
**Author:** ![Zredlady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/f19dbf/32.png) [@Zredlady](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zredlady)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2006, 7:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nissan-design-50th-anniversary/132523/4 "2006-12-11T19:42:39Z")
> [@What are you listening to RIGHT NOW? Pt. NYSpeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-are-you-listening-to-right-now-pt-nyspeed/183/82): > > as soon as i saw the first pic, i thought it was a nsx thats wat i thought too…but i think it looks better than the other ones ---
**Author:** ![noodleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e8c25b/32.png) [@noodleman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/noodleman)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2006, 8:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nissan-design-50th-anniversary/132523/5 "2006-12-11T20:14:13Z")
that’s pretty cool! Nissan design has gone a loooooong way 🙂 and mostly for the better (shakeshead at the 08 altima coupe…) ---
**Author:** ![dubv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@dubv](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dubv)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2006, 9:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nissan-design-50th-anniversary/132523/6 "2006-12-11T21:34:37Z")
the first car is a 1987 Nissan MID4-II… Thats one of my fav nissans… There were two versions…MID4 (1985) and MID4 II(1987) MID4 (1985): [![http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/7500/85nissanmid441gk3.jpg](http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/7500/85nissanmid441gk3.jpg)](http://imageshack.us) [![http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/7201/85nissanmid43qe9.jpg](http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/7201/85nissanmid43qe9.jpg)](http://imageshack.us) MID4-II (1987): [![http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/9392/87nissanmid4ii1ml4.jpg](http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/9392/87nissanmid4ii1ml4.jpg)](http://imageshack.us) [![http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/1300/87nissanmid4ii3sp2.jpg](http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/1300/87nissanmid4ii3sp2.jpg)](http://imageshack.us) [![http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/5020/87nissanmid4ii2df3.jpg](http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/5020/87nissanmid4ii2df3.jpg)](http://imageshack.us) The rear end of this MID4-II is sooo sexy!! ---
**Author:** ![Zredlady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/f19dbf/32.png) [@Zredlady](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zredlady)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2006, 9:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nissan-design-50th-anniversary/132523/7 "2006-12-11T21:37:49Z")
waaa waa wee waa…yea theyre both hot…i like the MID4 -II better as well yummy ---
**Author:** ![dubv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@dubv](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dubv)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2006, 9:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nissan-design-50th-anniversary/132523/8 "2006-12-11T21:45:52Z")
Also in the last picture its a 1997 Nissan Trailrunner… Its a 4WD, 2liter engien that makes 260HP at 7000rpm … This is a very nice car i wish it was actually produced:S More pics: [![http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/3650/trailrunnerrg7.jpg](http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/3650/trailrunnerrg7.jpg)](http://imageshack.us) [![http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/4761/nissantrailrunner2anu5.jpg](http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/4761/nissantrailrunner2anu5.jpg)](http://imageshack.us) ---
**Author:** ![dubv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@dubv](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dubv)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2006, 9:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nissan-design-50th-anniversary/132523/9 "2006-12-11T21:51:16Z")
yeee i love this car …it’s very unique … i just found more pics of the MID4-II [![http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/4918/66663el5.jpg](http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/4918/66663el5.jpg)](http://imageshack.us) [![http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/6343/66664px9.jpg](http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/6343/66664px9.jpg)](http://imageshack.us) [![http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/4006/66665do3.jpg](http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/4006/66665do3.jpg)](http://imageshack.us) [![http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/6418/66666rm2.jpg](http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/6418/66666rm2.jpg)](http://imageshack.us) [![http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/2563/66667iy3.jpg](http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/2563/66667iy3.jpg)](http://imageshack.us) 45444 ---
**Author:** ![Zredlady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/f19dbf/32.png) [@Zredlady](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zredlady)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2006, 9:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nissan-design-50th-anniversary/132523/10 "2006-12-11T21:58:01Z")
_drools_ i wonder if its possible to actually find one of those puppies ---
**Author:** ![dubv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@dubv](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dubv)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2006, 10:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nissan-design-50th-anniversary/132523/11 "2006-12-11T22:03:21Z")
i think its possible but not in Canada …but the weird thing is that this car is a LHD …i’ll post some info soon… ---
**Author:** ![dubv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@dubv](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dubv)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2006, 10:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nissan-design-50th-anniversary/132523/12 "2006-12-11T22:10:34Z")
The MID4-II In 1987: Nissan knew that this evolution would take a bit longer to refine, and the 1987 Z31 300ZX was the beginning of the change. The Japanese maker began to put in practice all the technology available for them in the form of prototypes, in order not only to amaze the public with the electronics technology they had, but additionally for the purpose of putting them under test conditions. So that they could be used later in production models. That was the main principle in the MID4 prototypes, the technological “key” for Nissan’s aspirations of building an outstanding sports car. The engine was basically the same as the one the Z32 300ZX would use in 1990, but having 330hp. thanks to a pair of turbos and their intercoolers. The suspensions were directly used in the 90 Fairlady-Z, but not the complex 4WD system, developed with the help of the Austrian producer Steyr-Daimler-Puch. Nissan management thought that the new Z32 with good tires and suspensions would have good enough roadholding without that all wheel drive system. Of course they considered putting it on the car, however the weight would increase and exterior design would be changed, resulting in rising the car about 2 inches (5 cms.) while changing the line of the hood. So the lucky car that got the system was the Skyline GT-R, a sports car icon in Japan. Nissan had its doubts weather making the MID4 or not, being the successor of the Z31, but finally they considered that it was too expensive to build. Curiously, three years later, as it happened with original Z’s development, Nissan recovered their interest in the project, but this time they were considering making a Supercar, powered with the Infiniti’s 4.5L V8, although that is another story. Returning with the 1987 MID4-II, at least three prototypes were built, one ivory white (shown in the Tokio Show), one medium metallic red , and another in titanium metallic gray used for track testing. All of them were left hand drive. I don’t have many more details, but I suppose that the car had many electronic gadgets. As a detail, the man responsible for the MID4-II project was Takoya Noguchi. Technical data: longitudinal mid-rear Engine, V6 , 2960c.c. (60�), bore+stroke:87+83mm.;24 valves, ECCS injection system with two turbochargers. Compression ratio, 10:1; 330hp. @ 6800rpm ; Torque 39mkg @3200rpm. For the traction: permanent 4WD system with viscous central coupling. The gearbox was a 5 speed manual. The body was a unit frame with fiberglass panels. It had also the HICAS 4 wheel steering and four disk brakes with ABS. Tires measured 225/50 VR 15. ITs dimensions : 416, 178, 120mm.Wheelbase 244mm.Track f/r :147/154mm. Fuel tank 65 litres. Weight: 1400 kilos. Performances: 295 k.p.h., and 0-100 k.p.h ( 0-62 mph) 4.9sec. ---
**Author:** ![Zredlady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/f19dbf/32.png) [@Zredlady](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zredlady)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2006, 10:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nissan-design-50th-anniversary/132523/13 "2006-12-11T22:21:56Z")
so only 3 ever made…probably daammnn expensive…most likely impossible to get ---
**Author:** ![noodleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e8c25b/32.png) [@noodleman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/noodleman)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2006, 10:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nissan-design-50th-anniversary/132523/14 "2006-12-11T22:30:41Z")
haha, yea, i would imagine that it’d be pretty hard to get a hold of prototype cars! Nice read though about the MID4. Man, if Fairlady’s didn’t have a tradition of being FR, it would’ve been cool to see either the Z32/Z33 with the MR configuration 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Zredlady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/f19dbf/32.png) [@Zredlady](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zredlady)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2006, 10:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nissan-design-50th-anniversary/132523/15 "2006-12-11T22:35:07Z")
maybe if i win the lottery…then i can hunt down that red one lol ---
**Author:** ![dubv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@dubv](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dubv)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2006, 10:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nissan-design-50th-anniversary/132523/16 "2006-12-11T22:35:39Z")
Glad you liked it …🙂 …i’ll try to find some more interesting nissan cars soon… yeeeeeee Z32/Z33 with the MR configuration could be awsome! ---
**Author:** ![imported\_refused](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f14d63/32.png) [@imported\_refused](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_refused)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2006, 11:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nissan-design-50th-anniversary/132523/17 "2006-12-11T23:09:22Z")
damn, nice looking MID 4. ya too bad they werent put into production, not like i would be able to afford one anyway but still would be nice for the person that could. ---
**Author:** ![BMWWW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e5b9ba/32.png) [@BMWWW](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BMWWW)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2006, 5:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nissan-design-50th-anniversary/132523/18 "2006-12-12T05:47:55Z")
The differences from the initial drawings to production models are HUUUGE. The 350z/Murano preliminary drawings look butt-ugly! I’m glad they had some sort of sane person overriding the artists… –Gabe ---
**Author:** ![dubv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@dubv](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dubv)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2006, 8:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nissan-design-50th-anniversary/132523/19 "2006-12-12T08:07:51Z")
Haha thats what i thought when i saw the drawings…looked soo bad, the front end looked very weird…there was no flow with the structure…at least the 350z looked good when it came out!🙂