# Nissan GTR vs. Porsche GT3 vs. BMW M3

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nissan-gtr-vs-porsche-gt3-vs-bmw-m3/235828>\
**Category:** Shift518 Automotive\
**Created:** [February 27, 2008, 8:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nissan-gtr-vs-porsche-gt3-vs-bmw-m3/235828 "2008-02-27T20:54:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2008, 8:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nissan-gtr-vs-porsche-gt3-vs-bmw-m3/235828/1 "2008-02-27T20:54:08Z")

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Guess who wins =)

[http://www.autocar.co.uk/VideosWallpapers/Videos.aspx?AR=231443&CT=V](http://www.autocar.co.uk/VideosWallpapers/Videos.aspx?AR=231443&CT=V)

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**Author:** ![91teg](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/91teg/32/6304_2.png) [@91teg](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/91teg)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2008, 9:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nissan-gtr-vs-porsche-gt3-vs-bmw-m3/235828/2 "2008-02-27T21:04:15Z")

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id still rather have the GT3

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**Author:** ![votblindub](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/votblindub/32/6280_2.png) [@votblindub](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/votblindub)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2008, 8:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nissan-gtr-vs-porsche-gt3-vs-bmw-m3/235828/3 "2008-02-28T08:00:42Z")

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> [@91 teg b16a1](#):
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> id still rather have the GT3

im with ya. VAG FTW :nod

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**Author:** ![plaf713](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@plaf713](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/plaf713)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2008, 1:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nissan-gtr-vs-porsche-gt3-vs-bmw-m3/235828/4 "2008-02-28T13:59:57Z")

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maybe im wrong but i would think that the m3 would be in that class as the skyline or gt3, fast but maybe an unfare comparison

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**Author:** ![OhNoPOPO](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ohnopopo/32/6344_2.png) [@OhNoPOPO](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OhNoPOPO)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2008, 2:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nissan-gtr-vs-porsche-gt3-vs-bmw-m3/235828/5 "2008-02-28T14:07:14Z")

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as much as a love bimmers i would def. rather drive the R35 skyline out of the 3

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**Author:** ![JClark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jclark/32/6309_2.png) [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2008, 2:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nissan-gtr-vs-porsche-gt3-vs-bmw-m3/235828/6 "2008-02-28T14:12:14Z")

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GT3 for me.

> [@plaf713](#):
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> maybe im wrong but i would think that the m3 would be in that class as the skyline or gt3, fast but maybe an unfare comparison

The M3 is in that class. I get the feeling the car wasnt set up properly as no one else is complaining of oversteer. The other magazine comparos are having lap times much closer.

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**Author:** ![McBitchin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecc23a/32.png) [@McBitchin](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/McBitchin)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2008, 2:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nissan-gtr-vs-porsche-gt3-vs-bmw-m3/235828/7 "2008-02-28T14:14:34Z")

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> [@91 teg b16a1](#):
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> id still rather have the GT3

seriously .30 wasnt enough of a difference for me to take a nissan over the porshe, the m3 however in comparison wasnt good but i really dont think it should be in the same class as those two f.i cars

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**Author:** ![timmay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@timmay](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/timmay)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2008, 2:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nissan-gtr-vs-porsche-gt3-vs-bmw-m3/235828/8 "2008-02-28T14:26:56Z")

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GT3 isn’t FI

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**Author:** ![McBitchin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecc23a/32.png) [@McBitchin](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/McBitchin)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2008, 2:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nissan-gtr-vs-porsche-gt3-vs-bmw-m3/235828/9 "2008-02-28T14:28:14Z")

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really i could have sword he said somthing about turbo, maybe he was referring to the 911 turbo he said he tested the week before

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**Author:** ![OhNoPOPO](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ohnopopo/32/6344_2.png) [@OhNoPOPO](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OhNoPOPO)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2008, 2:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nissan-gtr-vs-porsche-gt3-vs-bmw-m3/235828/10 "2008-02-28T14:28:37Z")

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:wtf

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**Author:** ![Criscone24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7993a0/32.png) [@Criscone24](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Criscone24)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2008, 2:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nissan-gtr-vs-porsche-gt3-vs-bmw-m3/235828/11 "2008-02-28T14:42:16Z")

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gt/r35 are turbo, m3 is not. However did he say the R35 is twin turbo?? That car is sick regardless, id take any of three!

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**Author:** ![2003gtiTURBO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/7c8e57/32.png) [@2003gtiTURBO](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/2003gtiTURBO)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2008, 2:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nissan-gtr-vs-porsche-gt3-vs-bmw-m3/235828/12 "2008-02-28T14:51:58Z")

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This is the thing that kills me…why did they use the GT3? Its an n/s engine car and not the faster Porsche made right now. The GT2 is the fastest Porsche right now and is turbo’ed. :wtf

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**Author:** ![timmay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@timmay](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/timmay)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2008, 2:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nissan-gtr-vs-porsche-gt3-vs-bmw-m3/235828/13 "2008-02-28T14:52:24Z")

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> [@1.8tV-Dub](#):
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> really i could have sword he said somthing about turbo, maybe he was referring to the 911 turbo he said he tested the week before

I watched the video yesterday and was confused myself. But the GT3 has never been a turbo car, its the air-cooled 911 lovers modern 911.

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**Author:** ![timmay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@timmay](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/timmay)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2008, 2:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nissan-gtr-vs-porsche-gt3-vs-bmw-m3/235828/14 "2008-02-28T14:54:56Z")

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> [@2003gtiTURBO](#):
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> This is the thing that kills me…why did they use the GT3? Its an n/s engine car and not the faster Porsche made right now. The GT2 is the fastest Porsche right now and is turbo’ed. :wtf

GT2’s start at 191k, which is probably twice what the GT-R is going to cost, I still think the turbo would have made for a better comparison, more similar, turbo 6 cylinder with advanced AWD system. I would have rather seen where the current Z06 fits in then the M3.

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**Author:** ![2003gtiTURBO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/7c8e57/32.png) [@2003gtiTURBO](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/2003gtiTURBO)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2008, 3:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nissan-gtr-vs-porsche-gt3-vs-bmw-m3/235828/15 "2008-02-28T15:08:08Z")

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> [@timmay](#):
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> GT2’s start at 191k, which is probably twice what the GT-R is going to cost, I still think the turbo would have made for a better comparison, more similar, turbo 6 cylinder with advanced AWD system. I would have rather seen where the current Z06 fits in then the M3.

Yeah thats makes sense…I didn’t think about the starting price of the GT2. :headbang

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**Author:** ![JClark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jclark/32/6309_2.png) [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2008, 3:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nissan-gtr-vs-porsche-gt3-vs-bmw-m3/235828/16 "2008-02-28T15:55:01Z")

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You guys are talking like you cant compare turbo cars and NA cars. If we’re talking power, who cares how its made; hp is hp.

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**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\
**Post date:** [February 29, 2008, 8:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nissan-gtr-vs-porsche-gt3-vs-bmw-m3/235828/17 "2008-02-29T08:43:01Z")

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:+1 track time is track time, FI cars can be just as compeditive if built right.

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**Author:** ![timmay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@timmay](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/timmay)\
**Post date:** [February 29, 2008, 8:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nissan-gtr-vs-porsche-gt3-vs-bmw-m3/235828/18 "2008-02-29T08:51:43Z")

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> [@JClark](#):
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> You guys are talking like you cant compare turbo cars and NA cars. If we’re talking power, who cares how its made; hp is hp.

Its more then about just HP, I don’t care how they get around the track, they can use a Delorean with a flux-capacitor if it gets the job done. I just think the M3 was a poor choice for the comparison, I would have much rather seen a Z06 in the mix to see how it compared with the latest and greatest in the in and around $100k range.

I think the 911 turbo would have been a more real comparison because both it and GT-R have fantastic AWD systems, the reason I feel the GT3 was a poor choice in comparison has nothing to do with it having a turbo, but the fact that it is RWD, on a track like the one they were on AWD would probably be a bit quicker.

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**Post date:** [February 29, 2008, 10:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nissan-gtr-vs-porsche-gt3-vs-bmw-m3/235828/19 "2008-02-29T10:10:45Z")

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> [@91 teg b16a1](#):
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> id still rather have the GT3

As the saying goes, **Porsche, there is no substitute.**

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**Author:** ![JClark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jclark/32/6309_2.png) [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)\
**Post date:** [February 29, 2008, 10:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nissan-gtr-vs-porsche-gt3-vs-bmw-m3/235828/20 "2008-02-29T10:20:24Z")

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> [@timmay](#):
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> Its more then about just HP, I don’t care how they get around the track, they can use a Delorean with a flux-capacitor if it gets the job done. I just think the M3 was a poor choice for the comparison, I would have much rather seen a Z06 in the mix to see how it compared with the latest and greatest in the in and around $100k range.
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> I think the 911 turbo would have been a more real comparison because both it and GT-R have fantastic AWD systems, the reason I feel the GT3 was a poor choice in comparison has nothing to do with it having a turbo, but the fact that it is RWD, on a track like the one they were on AWD would probably be a bit quicker.

Agreed, but those magazine comparisons are almost always hinged upon a certain price range which probably excluded the 911 Turbo. Would’ve been interesting to see what the Z06 did.

My “hp is hp” comment was related to the people saying that its unfair to compare turbo and NA cars because when you throw a turbocharger into the mix, magical speed unicorns appear and all turbo cars \> all NA cars.
