# Nissan IDx

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**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [November 20, 2013, 7:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nissan-idx/233924 "2013-11-20T07:54:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![Wahoo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wahoo/32/8265_2.png) [@Wahoo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wahoo)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 1:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nissan-idx/233924/21 "2013-11-20T13:50:56Z")

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They should put the 3.7L 370z motor in it and make it go full retard

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**Author:** ![SaNTi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@SaNTi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SaNTi)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 4:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nissan-idx/233924/22 "2013-11-20T16:08:16Z")

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> [@RUSSKII](#):
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> Still waiting until nissan reveals the claimed frs/brz competitor at the tokyo auto show

Don’t hold your breath. This might be it. I think it’s ugly as all fuck.

Maybe if it was all one color it would look half decent.

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**Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 5:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nissan-idx/233924/23 "2013-11-20T17:05:12Z")

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Japanese Camaro

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**Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 6:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nissan-idx/233924/24 "2013-11-20T18:13:35Z")

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> [@Carnut](#):
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> Japanese Vega

Fixed.

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**Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 6:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nissan-idx/233924/25 "2013-11-20T18:14:27Z")

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:tup:

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**Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 7:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nissan-idx/233924/26 "2013-11-20T19:44:59Z")

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Thought this would at least get the 1.6 turbo juke engine. So it looks like a turd and it’s slower than an frs. Son, I am disappoint.

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**Author:** ![Driftacular](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/driftacular/32/5724_2.png) [@Driftacular](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Driftacular)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2013, 7:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nissan-idx/233924/27 "2013-11-22T07:17:47Z")

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God this thing is ugly.

If this was the solution for the FRS/BRZ Nissan failed yet again.

They made the dumbest decisions sometimes; the Juke, killing the Schassis, THIS.

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**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2013, 8:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nissan-idx/233924/28 "2013-11-22T08:25:08Z")

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![http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/196xu8as19ejujpg/ku-xlarge.jpg](http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/196xu8as19ejujpg/ku-xlarge.jpg)

I’m sorry, but this looks TERRIBLE. Do some work on the front/rear and we’ve got something.

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**Author:** ![fairgentleman\_Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fairgentleman_z/32/7263_2.png) [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2013, 10:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nissan-idx/233924/29 "2013-11-22T10:00:40Z")

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Slightest glimmer of hope for drive train option can be found here:

> NISMO potent Power

> There’s plenty of power to go with the Sentra’s go-fast looks, too, thanks to NISMO’s engine wizards **taking the 1.6-liter DOHC direct-injection turbo four from the Juke NISMO and increasing its displacement to 1.8 liters. This raises output to 240 horsepower and 240 lb-ft of torque,** numbers that make the regular Sentra’s 130 horsepower and 128 lb-ft (from a naturally aspirated 1.8-liter four) look even blander than they already are. The NISMO-tweaked engine is mated with a six-speed manual gearbox, which sends power to the front wheels via a limited-slip differential.

[http://www.caranddriver.com/news/nissan-sentra-nismo-concept-news](http://www.caranddriver.com/news/nissan-sentra-nismo-concept-news)

I have little confidence if Nissan, I am going to guess if and when the IDx becomes a reality it will be a majority of CVT as they still haven’t figured out how to get a manual transmission in the current AWD Juke: [http://www.caranddriver.com/news/2014-nissan-juke-nismo-rs-photos-and-info-news](http://www.caranddriver.com/news/2014-nissan-juke-nismo-rs-photos-and-info-news)

And fouled up electric steering as seen here: [http://blog.caranddriver.com/infiniti-fast-tracks-q50-updates-due-to-complaints-we-drive-revised-car/](http://blog.caranddriver.com/infiniti-fast-tracks-q50-updates-due-to-complaints-we-drive-revised-car/)

Any NISMO package will be overpriced and under performing to competitors, see IPL: [http://www.caranddriver.com/comparisons/2012-audi-tt-rs-vs-2011-bmw-1-series-m-coupe-2011-infiniti-ipl-g-coupe-comparison-test](http://www.caranddriver.com/comparisons/2012-audi-tt-rs-vs-2011-bmw-1-series-m-coupe-2011-infiniti-ipl-g-coupe-comparison-test)

And more of a cosmetic/badge upgrade than true performance: [http://www.caranddriver.com/features/z-meets-wall-we-investigate-why-the-nismo-zs-brakes-failed-at-lightning-lap](http://www.caranddriver.com/features/z-meets-wall-we-investigate-why-the-nismo-zs-brakes-failed-at-lightning-lap)

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**Author:** ![Adam\_s13](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@Adam\_s13](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Adam_s13)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2013, 7:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nissan-idx/233924/30 "2013-11-22T19:14:30Z")

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ammm ssso hhhappy

 ![http://i20.tinypic.com/2w3os46.jpg](http://i20.tinypic.com/2w3os46.jpg)

:purextc:

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**Post date:** [November 23, 2013, 2:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nissan-idx/233924/31 "2013-11-23T14:11:07Z")

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![https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1441585_10151796489674087_1652616192_n.jpg](https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1441585_10151796489674087_1652616192_n.jpg)

^ that looks awesome.

the FRS/BRZ is a god awful ugly piece of poop in stock form… but it looks rad when lightly modded… plus we all just got used to it looking like it looks and it’s acceptable now. same will go for this.

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**Post date:** [November 23, 2013, 3:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nissan-idx/233924/32 "2013-11-23T15:37:20Z")

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^THAT does look really fucking cool. Hmmmmm…

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**Post date:** [November 23, 2013, 4:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nissan-idx/233924/33 "2013-11-23T16:11:56Z")

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damit bing. I’m trying to hate it.

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**Post date:** [November 24, 2013, 8:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nissan-idx/233924/34 "2013-11-24T08:00:33Z")

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> [@bing](#):
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> ^ that looks awesome.
> 
> the FRS/BRZ is a god awful ugly piece of poop in stock form… but it looks rad when lightly modded… plus we all just got used to it looking like it looks and it’s acceptable now. same will go for this.

This is what I’m talking about. Seems like this platform has so much potential. And will be able to have a market and a following behind it for many years. Just like the old Nissans and Datsuns.

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**Author:** ![Adam\_s13](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@Adam\_s13](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Adam_s13)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2013, 8:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nissan-idx/233924/35 "2013-11-24T08:39:29Z")

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Are you guys still talking about this POS  
[ATTACH=CONFIG]25112[/ATTACH]

or what some underage kid can do to it using Photoshop?

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**Post date:** [November 24, 2013, 11:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nissan-idx/233924/36 "2013-11-24T11:28:11Z")

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This rendering is by far my favorite. I’d sign up now if they wanted to start producing this:

 ![http://www.3dluvr.com/grid/temp/D_240z_Conc/D_240Z_conc_99__.jpg](http://www.3dluvr.com/grid/temp/D_240z_Conc/D_240Z_conc_99__.jpg)

 ![http://www.3dluvr.com/grid/temp/D_240z_Conc/D_240Z_conc_98__.jpg](http://www.3dluvr.com/grid/temp/D_240z_Conc/D_240Z_conc_98__.jpg)

 ![http://www.3dluvr.com/grid/temp/D_240z_Conc/D_240Z_conc_97__.jpg](http://www.3dluvr.com/grid/temp/D_240z_Conc/D_240Z_conc_97__.jpg)

 ![http://www.3dluvr.com/grid/temp/D_240z_Conc/D_240Z_conc_95__.jpg](http://www.3dluvr.com/grid/temp/D_240z_Conc/D_240Z_conc_95__.jpg)

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**Post date:** [November 24, 2013, 1:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nissan-idx/233924/37 "2013-11-24T13:04:07Z")

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> [@Paulo](#):
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> This rendering is by far my favorite. I’d sign up now if they wanted to start producing this:
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> ![http://www.3dluvr.com/grid/temp/D_240z_Conc/D_240Z_conc_99__.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/a/2/a29ea5f204c6ffd94cece84238f40e75a72fd5c5.jpeg)
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> ![http://www.3dluvr.com/grid/temp/D_240z_Conc/D_240Z_conc_98__.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/2/6/266ad4400ef42e08bfeea3ee6fbaeecf002814a1.jpeg)
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> ![http://www.3dluvr.com/grid/temp/D_240z_Conc/D_240Z_conc_97__.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/6/e/6e878f269249bb9e13529cc08d652867fc996a0f.jpeg)
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> ![http://www.3dluvr.com/grid/temp/D_240z_Conc/D_240Z_conc_95__.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/d/7/d766502ef1a5a33602819f4f7d367c126e0e9214.jpeg)

I’d sell my kidney for that…

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**Post date:** [November 24, 2013, 2:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nissan-idx/233924/38 "2013-11-24T14:22:38Z")

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I’m sorry but that car is ugly… brz stock looks ok

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**Post date:** [November 24, 2013, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nissan-idx/233924/39 "2013-11-24T17:02:34Z")

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…

> [@Big Boss"](#):
>
> > **(from Nissan Press Release) IDx Freeflow and IDx NISMO: From Ideas to Reality**
> > 
> > - Two very different Nissan concepts, built on the same architecture, demonstrate how co-creation can challenge the conventions of car design –  
> > TOKYO – Today Nissan unveiled a pair of concept cars with radically different characteristics, created by a new approach to product development, that together offer a new take on authenticity.
> > 
> > The IDx concepts on the Nissan stand at the 2013 Tokyo Motor Show are case studies. The first is a casual/lifestyle-focused vision, the IDx Freeflow. The second is IDx NISMO, an ultra-sporty model of the future that looks as if it came directly from a driving simulator.
> > 
> > IDx NISMO and IDx Freeflow show how Nissan is using a new and innovative product development methods to meet the needs of younger customers who have novel, exciting ideas, and engage with them to build the cars they want.
> > 
> > The co-creation product development approach requires input from consumers. It was designed to appeal to “digital natives," the generation born after 1990, and integrates their feedback into the creation process. Nissan thinks this approach could have real applications in the near future.
> > 
> > This co-creation activity led to the development of the two IDx concepts cars, each with their own unique identity, yet aligning with the values and preferences and desire for authenticity, of the mainly digital native collaborative community that helped create them.
> > 
> > **IDx: A fresh start**
> > 
> > Co-creation defines a new relationship between Nissan and its customers. The prefix Nissan gave to the two new concepts, “IDx," reflects those ideals. “ID" is the acronym taken from “identification", relating to the things all individuals relate to on a personal level in a car, and the “x," which is the variable representing the new values and dreams born through communication.
> > 
> > Engaging with members of the digital native generation created an opportunity to learn a slew of new insights and creative possibilities. The co-creation dialogue reached far and wide, from the basic framework of cars to the last details and finishing touches.  
> > The final versions of the two concept cars were born from the engagement with separate co-creation communities. Each one has its own strong character and leaves a vastly different impression.
> > 
> > The design of the two IDx concepts incorporates digital natives’ direct expression of the ideal form of ultimate simplicity in a compact sedan. It was as if they were given a clean, white canvas to freely conceptualize anything that was intriguing.
> > 
> > What Nissan derived from this communication was their desire for a basic, authentic configuration for a car. A car without legacy influences, based on the ideal proportions and straight stance of a simple three-box shaped car design. Thus, the IDx concepts share the same three-box genesis, i.e. vehicles made up of three compartments: engine, passenger and cargo areas.
> > 
> > Nissan designers infused the idea of an “authentic car configuration" into their thinking behind this starting point in the form of a “flexible box."
> > 
> > Several unique approaches were made from a structural standpoint so the IDx concepts could take on various appearances. For example, the front/rear fenders and side structure, such as the door panels, seem to sandwich the cabin to focus attention on the center of the vehicle.
> > 
> > This structure allows the car to differentiate itself from others through the side and front face, with vast freedom for customization. The parting lines (panel partitions) clearly separate the sides and top, and enhance visual clarity while creating a unique and crisp boxed form. Additionally, viewed from the front and rear, the car retains its compact lines while maintaining low and wide body proportions, thereby instilling a sense of it being a “real" car.
> > 
> > Both the interior and exterior share the aim of a simple design, with just the right amount of functions and accessories that are standard on cars to provide a solid sense of build reliability.
> > 
> > In order to have enough flexibility consistent with the creativity inherent to the IDx approach some areas of the interior incorporate a dual-layered “tight-fit skin." For example, the dashboard is simple yet refined, created by employing cast molding in parts in the body structure and on the ventilation ducts. By combining this with sparingly used, close-fitting trim, the dashboard can be a foundation for various expressions and functions.
> > 
> > Similarly, the gauges, center consoles, and floor consoles were crafted to enable any necessary parts to be installed in an easy and seamless way.
> > 
> > The IDx concepts’ interiors are ultimately the expression of digital natives’ values in a flexible form that is malleable enough to project an exquisite structure while rendering a unique space inside.
> > 
> > **IDx Freeflow**
> > 
> > The IDx Freeflow reflects the sensibilities of its co-creators – the outlook of people who seek natural and tasteful things in every aspect of their daily lives.
> > 
> > They sought to employ a simple and clean attitude, using the authentic items that they favor to artfully combine various things and give substance to their self-expression.
> > 
> > The interior details of this four-passenger concept car are a carefully selected mix of fashionable functionality and comfort in a design brimming with creative originality. It is meant to feel like a living room inside a car where the owner and his or her friends can relax.
> > 
> > The round, no-nonsense steering wheel, attached to the level dashboard, mounts a modern-looking speedometer that would not seem out of place in a younger person’s lounge. Together with an analog clock, prominently located above the centered function monitors, the cumulative effect is an interior that feels heavily influenced by the wish for a cozy, relaxing space.
> > 
> > Additionally, the coordination of finished metals with the thick surfacing material on the dashboard and console, combined with the denim selected to cover the seats and certain trim areas, produces sections that dazzle the eye but are balanced by more calming hues in other spots. This is the unique quality of the co-creators’ taste as expressed in the cabin appointments.
> > 
> > In particular, the moderately faded texture and color of the denim used in the interior conveys a new kind of quality, a back-to-basics charm seldom seen in cars until now.
> > 
> > Though compact in size – about 4.1 meters in length, 1.7 meters in width, and 1.3 meters in overall height – the IDx Freeflow impresses with its daring yet dignified exterior.
> > 
> > The car’s “floating roof," a seamless rounded roof shape, is another design twist that accentuates the simple box form of the body.
> > 
> > The exterior color is a sophisticated combination of white and flax (a light brown shade), invoking a casual feeling like that produced by the pairing of the venerable white T-shirt with khaki chinos, and highlighted with silver accessories or a belt. The overall visual effect is completed by the addition of stylish 18-inch chrome wheels.
> > 
> > The digital native cohort’s quest for authenticity can also be interpreted as a demand for economy and efficiency in their everyday car. For this kind of vehicle, the requisite high level of fuel economy and driving performance could come from a powertrain with a 1.2-to-1.5L gasoline engine mated to a continuously variable transmission (CVT).

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    - Updated - - -

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> [@Big Boss"](#):
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    - Updated - - -

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> [@Big Boss"](#):
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> > For this kind of vehicle, the requisite high level of fuel economy and driving performance could come from a powertrain with a 1.2-to-1.5L gasoline engine **mated to a continuously variable transmission (CVT)**

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**Post date:** [November 24, 2013, 5:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nissan-idx/233924/40 "2013-11-24T17:04:01Z")

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> [@Paulo](#):
>
> This rendering is by far my favorite. I’d sign up now if they wanted to start producing this:

That looks like it got too close to a fire and started to melt. Too droopy and the body lines on it just are not realistic.

This on the other hand, is fucking awesome.

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