# Nitrogen in Tires vs. Regular Air.

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nitrogen-in-tires-vs-regular-air/197028>\
**Category:** PittSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [April 22, 2008, 8:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nitrogen-in-tires-vs-regular-air/197028 "2008-04-22T20:02:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 9\
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**Author:** ![PurpleMongoose](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/purplemongoose/32/3349_2.png) [@PurpleMongoose](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PurpleMongoose)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 8:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nitrogen-in-tires-vs-regular-air/197028/21 "2008-04-24T20:30:00Z")

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I’ve always been curious…

How do they get all the plain ol’ everyday air out of the tires?

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**Author:** ![slowcivic98](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4bbf92/32.png) [@slowcivic98](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slowcivic98)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 8:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nitrogen-in-tires-vs-regular-air/197028/22 "2008-04-24T20:46:23Z")

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> [@Need some car/truck/jeep buying advice](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-some-car-truck-jeep-buying-advice/36073/28):
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> I’ve always been curious…
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> How do they get all the plain ol’ everyday air out of the tires?

what do you mean how do they get air out of tires?

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**Author:** ![Zack01GC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a183cd/32.png) [@Zack01GC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zack01GC)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 9:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nitrogen-in-tires-vs-regular-air/197028/23 "2008-04-24T21:01:15Z")

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> [@Need some car/truck/jeep buying advice](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-some-car-truck-jeep-buying-advice/36073/28):
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> I’ve always been curious…
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> How do they get all the plain ol’ everyday air out of the tires?

A. Push valve in stem.  
B. Take valve out of stem.

That’s probably it.

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**Author:** ![Karl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/34f0e0/32.png) [@Karl](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Karl)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 9:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nitrogen-in-tires-vs-regular-air/197028/24 "2008-04-24T21:20:17Z")

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“The atmosphere begins at sea level, and its first layer, the troposphere, extends from 8 to 16 km (5 and 10 mi) from Earth’s surface. The air in the troposphere consists of the following proportions of gases: 78 percent nitrogen, 21 percent oxygen, 0.9 percent argon, 0.03 percent carbon dioxide, and the remaining 0.07 percent is a mixture of hydrogen, water, ozone, neon, helium, krypton, xenon, and other trace components.”

You’re 80% of the way there, with whats in your tires now…do you really think the other 20 will help that much?

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**Author:** ![Dominator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a4c791/32.png) [@Dominator](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dominator)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2008, 6:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nitrogen-in-tires-vs-regular-air/197028/25 "2008-04-25T06:40:44Z")

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> [@FS: White Leather Reclining Chair](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-white-leather-reclining-chair/35363/5):
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> A. Push valve in stem.  
> B. Take valve out of stem.
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> That’s probably it.

That will get the volume of air that has been compressed in there out, but unless you draw a vaccum in the tire the nitrogen service will begin contaminated. :wtcslap:

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**Author:** ![YellowZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/edb3f5/32.png) [@YellowZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/YellowZ)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2008, 9:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nitrogen-in-tires-vs-regular-air/197028/26 "2008-04-25T09:23:46Z")

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Or have a rim with 2 valve stems.

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**Author:** ![Zack01GC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a183cd/32.png) [@Zack01GC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zack01GC)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2008, 9:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nitrogen-in-tires-vs-regular-air/197028/27 "2008-04-25T09:47:34Z")

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> [@New Winter Beater, possibly for sale](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-winter-beater-possibly-for-sale/36027/20):
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> That will get the volume of air that has been compressed in there out, but unless you draw a vaccum in the tire the nitrogen service will begin contaminated. :wtcslap:

That’s what I’m saying. Are they really going to suck ALL of the air out of the tire?

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**Author:** ![Swarzkopf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7feea3/32.png) [@Swarzkopf](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Swarzkopf)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2008, 11:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nitrogen-in-tires-vs-regular-air/197028/28 "2008-04-25T11:25:04Z")

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> Because they are race cars that go 200mph. Not to go get groceries.
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> The nitro has less pressure build up as temperatures go up then regular air does.

Exactly.

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**Author:** ![tjZ28](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de0a6/32.png) [@tjZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tjZ28)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2008, 1:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nitrogen-in-tires-vs-regular-air/197028/29 "2008-04-25T13:43:31Z")

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My race wheels don’t have 2 valve stems to “do it right” or I would use it. But only for my race wheels. My AutoX tires gain heat very quickly (as they are designed to) and pick up 2-4psi per lap for the first few laps, then level off as the heat levels out (I use a water sprayer as necessary to prevent over-heating). With nitrogen I could waste a lot less time between runs dropping my air pressures back down, and would have a more consitent tire from start to finish of any given lap (since, in effect for the first few laps the tires are as much as 4psi different by the end of a lap).

For road course I think it’d be even nicer since I can’t exactly get out and adjust my pressures between laps. It usually take a session or two to establish the proper cold temperature to give me the hot temp I want for my session. It changes based on track surface, tire I’m using, weather condition etc. I know I have a baseline of about 5-6psi lower than what I want to run. But it’d be nice to narrow that.

> [@New Winter Beater, possibly for sale](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-winter-beater-possibly-for-sale/36027/20):
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> That will get the volume of air that has been compressed in there out, but unless you draw a vaccum in the tire the nitrogen service will begin contaminated. :wtcslap:

You don’t need to create a vacuum if you have 2 valve stems. You pull both valve cores and only hook the nitro up to one. As long as you’re willing to waste a little nitrogen free-flowing it for a while, you will flush all of the atmosphere out of the wheel/tire with the pressurized nitrogen.

-TJ

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