# Nitrous rules **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [February 23, 2006, 10:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nitrous-rules/180504 "2006-02-23T10:54:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Quik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/quik/32/5979_2.png) [@Quik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Quik)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 1:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nitrous-rules/180504/61 "2006-02-28T13:39:42Z")
> [@ssdragon](#): > > i guess it is personal preference, but as far as not using it on the street for one where are you gonna have the room to really take advantage of it and 2 its illegal to have hooked up on the street so you would have to re hook it up everytime you wanted to use it, plus the out of pocket costs of having to keep refilling it suck and finding a conveniant place to do it. i just like the idea of bolting a turbo on and being done with it and as far as wear goes a properly tuned boosted engine should not wear any more than a n2o would lets see you continous boost a motor. it will have more wear on a motor then if it was just juice once i na while. boost is constant juice is when yo uwant it. as for hookig and unhooking please. who really does that? you have to be doing somethign stupid to have a cop harrass you for your bottle being hooked up and it only costs me 35 bucks to fill up. plus the say average expense of bottle is 500. and typical turbo setup is well over 1500. unless a JYT setup then its still up around 1k or so. and you just dont bolt on a turbo andbe done with it. thats the cars that dont run very long. and for not taking full advantage of the juice on street. you must live in FNF world. you wouldnt know if i sprayed you on street or not. but i sure could tell if you had a turbo and for illegal terms, anything besides stock an be seen as illegal. also any type of hard acceleration on street is illegal, same as street racing but since when does that stop ppl from doing it? ---
**Author:** ![T70\_Tsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/898d66/32.png) [@T70\_Tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T70_Tsi)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 1:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nitrous-rules/180504/62 "2006-02-28T13:48:30Z")
quik forced induction of any kind does not cause a motor to wear quicker ---
**Author:** ![Quik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/quik/32/5979_2.png) [@Quik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Quik)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 1:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nitrous-rules/180504/63 "2006-02-28T13:51:15Z")
> [@T70\_Tsi](#): > > quik forced induction of any kind does not cause a motor to wear quicker start new tread and explain how. its like saying performance parts dont cause them to wear quicker, same as saying a stroker wont wear faster then a stock stroke motor. but lets see how your theory works ---
**Author:** ![ssdragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ab097/32.png) [@ssdragon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ssdragon)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 1:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nitrous-rules/180504/64 "2006-02-28T13:54:53Z")
well when i say bolt it on and forget about it i was assuming you knew that it would be tuned and well maintainanced and doing that the car will last a very long time ---
**Author:** ![Quik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/quik/32/5979_2.png) [@Quik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Quik)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 1:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nitrous-rules/180504/65 "2006-02-28T13:57:07Z")
> [@ssdragon](#): > > well when i say bolt it on and forget about it i was assuming you knew that it would be tuned and well maintainanced and doing that the car will last a very long time theres more then just aturbo tho, you do know that right? and whens the last time you seen a performance turbo motor last long without having ANY issues ---
**Author:** ![T70\_Tsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/898d66/32.png) [@T70\_Tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T70_Tsi)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 1:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nitrous-rules/180504/66 "2006-02-28T13:59:18Z")
> [@Quik](#): > > start new tread and explain how. its like saying performance parts dont cause them to wear quicker, same as saying a stroker wont wear faster then a stock stroke motor. but lets see how your theory works because engine cyl wear and wear on parts is not determined by the power ouput of the motor based on how it makes power. if you were right diesel rigs would last half as long as your mustang motor will…meanwhile at 200k miles those trucks are just being broken in and they run cyl pressures A LOT higher than a typical gas motor. compresssion is a lot higher, stroke is a LOT further and internal cylinder pressure from turbo/charger is nothing compared to a treet motor. internal cyl pressures do not determine how fast your engine wears i’d put my 95 7 bolt 200k motor up against your truck motor at 200k miles in terms of wear any day ---
**Author:** ![T70\_Tsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/898d66/32.png) [@T70\_Tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T70_Tsi)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 1:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nitrous-rules/180504/67 "2006-02-28T13:59:45Z")
> [@Quik](#): > > theres more then just aturbo tho, you do know that right? and whens the last time you seen a performance turbo motor last long without having ANY issues every time i drive on a road ---
**Author:** ![SmokinDiesel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/57b2e6/32.png) [@SmokinDiesel](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SmokinDiesel)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 2:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nitrous-rules/180504/68 "2006-02-28T14:04:37Z")
> [@T70\_Tsi](#): > > because engine cyl wear and wear on parts is not determined by the power ouput of the motor based on how it makes power. if you were right diesel rigs would last half as long as your mustang motor will…meanwhile at 200k miles those trucks are just being broken in and they run cyl pressures A LOT higher than a typical gas motor. compresssion is a lot higher, stroke is a LOT further and internal cylinder pressure from turbo/charger is nothing compared to a treet motor. internal cyl pressures do not determine how fast your engine wears i’d put my 95 7 bolt 200k motor up against your truck motor at 200k miles in terms of wear any day Quik … He is right about this statement … And its a general rule of 100k that it is broken in ---
**Author:** ![ssdragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ab097/32.png) [@ssdragon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ssdragon)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 2:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nitrous-rules/180504/69 "2006-02-28T14:06:19Z")
> [@Quik](#): > > theres more then just aturbo tho, you do know that right? and whens the last time you seen a performance turbo motor last long without having ANY issues its been done many times or else turbos wouldnt be as popular as they are. if they were that proeblematic then the biggest car makers in the world would quit using them and start using nitrous to make power. look at supra tt, eclipse gsx/gst, 3sgte etc… turbos done right are very reliable as long as you dont abuse them ---
**Author:** ![Quik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/quik/32/5979_2.png) [@Quik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Quik)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 2:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nitrous-rules/180504/70 "2006-02-28T14:12:42Z")
> [@T70\_Tsi](#): > > because engine cyl wear and wear on parts is not determined by the power ouput of the motor based on how it makes power. if you were right diesel rigs would last half as long as your mustang motor will…meanwhile at 200k miles those trucks are just being broken in and they run cyl pressures A LOT higher than a typical gas motor. compresssion is a lot higher, stroke is a LOT further and internal cylinder pressure from turbo/charger is nothing compared to a treet motor. internal cyl pressures do not determine how fast your engine wears i’d put my 95 7 bolt 200k motor up against your truck motor at 200k miles in terms of wear any day diesel motors dont rev high so its less wear on the internals. my truck motor wont last that long. its a GEN III motor. now i know of a 8.1 with close to that with mileage and runs fine ---
**Author:** ![Quik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/quik/32/5979_2.png) [@Quik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Quik)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 2:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nitrous-rules/180504/71 "2006-02-28T14:13:42Z")
> [@T70\_Tsi](#): > > every time i drive on a road what you driving that doesnt have any issues. your dsm did, and how many other turbo cars. ---
**Author:** ![Quik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/quik/32/5979_2.png) [@Quik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Quik)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 2:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nitrous-rules/180504/72 "2006-02-28T14:17:28Z")
> [@ssdragon](#): > > its been done many times or else turbos wouldnt be as popular as they are. if they were that proeblematic then the biggest car makers in the world would quit using them and start using nitrous to make power. look at supra tt, eclipse gsx/gst, 3sgte etc… turbos done right are very reliable as long as you dont abuse them but you dont just bolt them on. you dont get the point i was making. you think its simple just bolt on and go. you need to have proper fuel, proper cooling, proper oiling, proper injection, proper tuning along with other things. whens the last time you seen a tt supra with high mileage? and they did put a nitrous on a car that came from a manufactor. anything is reliable if you dont abuse it. sometimes you get lucky and abuse it for 90k miles and it finally spilts in half. ---
**Author:** ![T70\_Tsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/898d66/32.png) [@T70\_Tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T70_Tsi)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 2:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nitrous-rules/180504/73 "2006-02-28T14:19:06Z")
> [@Quik](#): > > diesel motors dont rev high so its less wear on the internals. > my truck motor wont last that long. its a GEN III motor. now i know of a 8.1 with close to that with mileage and runs fine it doesn’t matter your’e talking about a turbo motor the cyl pressures in a diesel truck MORE than make up for the lack of revvs ---
**Author:** ![ssdragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ab097/32.png) [@ssdragon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ssdragon)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 2:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nitrous-rules/180504/74 "2006-02-28T14:28:21Z")
> [@Quik](#): > > but you dont just bolt them on. you dont get the point i was making. you think its simple just bolt on and go. you need to have proper fuel, proper cooling, proper oiling, proper injection, proper tuning along with other things. > > whens the last time you seen a tt supra with high mileage? and they did put a nitrous on a car that came from a manufactor. > > anything is reliable if you dont abuse it. sometimes you get lucky and abuse it for 90k miles and it finally spilts in half. look back and re read my post when i said that i assumed u knew that it had proper tuning the n20 car you are talking about is the saleen focus which is hardly a production car. high mileage supra: [http://autos.yahoo.com/usedcars/detail/index.html;\_ylt=Am6ZGxA30iySdJ97fCpSaP8bTMUF?cid=automobiles-194086341&dst=2,395.97&rsr=bWFrZT1UT1lPVEEmbW9kZWw9U1VQUkEmY2xfeT0xOTkzJmNoX3k9MjAwNiZjbF9wcmljZT0mY2hfcHJpY2U9JmNsX21pPSZjaF9taT0mY2s9Jmd1cj1hbnkmY3N6PTE1MTQ1JnZ0eXBlPWF1dG9zJm1rPVRveW90YSZtbz1TdXByYSZiPTQwJg--](http://autos.yahoo.com/usedcars/detail/index.html;_ylt=Am6ZGxA30iySdJ97fCpSaP8bTMUF?cid=automobiles-194086341&dst=2,395.97&rsr=bWFrZT1UT1lPVEEmbW9kZWw9U1VQUkEmY2xfeT0xOTkzJmNoX3k9MjAwNiZjbF9wcmljZT0mY2hfcHJpY2U9JmNsX21pPSZjaF9taT0mY2s9Jmd1cj1hbnkmY3N6PTE1MTQ1JnZ0eXBlPWF1dG9zJm1rPVRveW90YSZtbz1TdXByYSZiPTQwJg--) ---
**Author:** ![Quik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/quik/32/5979_2.png) [@Quik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Quik)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 2:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nitrous-rules/180504/75 "2006-02-28T14:35:29Z")
> [@ssdragon](#): > > look back and re read my post when i said that i assumed u knew that it had proper tuning > > the n20 car you are talking about is the saleen focus which is hardly a production car. > > high mileage supra: > > [http://autos.yahoo.com/usedcars/detail/index.html;\_ylt=Am6ZGxA30iySdJ97fCpSaP8bTMUF?cid=automobiles-194086341&dst=2,395.97&rsr=bWFrZT1UT1lPVEEmbW9kZWw9U1VQUkEmY2xfeT0xOTkzJmNoX3k9MjAwNiZjbF9wcmljZT0mY2hfcHJpY2U9JmNsX21pPSZjaF9taT0mY2s9Jmd1cj1hbnkmY3N6PTE1MTQ1JnZ0eXBlPWF1dG9zJm1rPVRveW90YSZtbz1TdXByYSZiPTQwJg--](http://autos.yahoo.com/usedcars/detail/index.html;_ylt=Am6ZGxA30iySdJ97fCpSaP8bTMUF?cid=automobiles-194086341&dst=2,395.97&rsr=bWFrZT1UT1lPVEEmbW9kZWw9U1VQUkEmY2xfeT0xOTkzJmNoX3k9MjAwNiZjbF9wcmljZT0mY2hfcHJpY2U9JmNsX21pPSZjaF9taT0mY2s9Jmd1cj1hbnkmY3N6PTE1MTQ1JnZ0eXBlPWF1dG9zJm1rPVRveW90YSZtbz1TdXByYSZiPTQwJg--) i read tuning but you think you cna just slap it on and call it a day and its from the manufactor, and yes saleen makes production pieces ---
**Author:** ![SmokinDiesel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/57b2e6/32.png) [@SmokinDiesel](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SmokinDiesel)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 2:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nitrous-rules/180504/76 "2006-02-28T14:37:53Z")
> [@T70\_Tsi](#): > > it doesn’t matter your’e talking about a turbo motor the cyl pressures in a diesel truck MORE than make up for the lack of revvs Actually … Your both right … The low rpms do help alot … and the increased cyl pressure ---
**Author:** ![vw16vcabby](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vw16vcabby/32/5943_2.png) [@vw16vcabby](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/vw16vcabby)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 3:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nitrous-rules/180504/77 "2006-02-28T15:35:27Z")
reasonable boost levels and resonable nitorus levels will not harm a motor. however, nitrous is still harder on parts once u start spraying higher levels. no different than running high levels of boost. clearances become important, as well as quality of the parts. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 5:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nitrous-rules/180504/78 "2006-02-28T17:21:39Z")
> [@Quik](#): > > theres more then just aturbo tho, you do know that right? and whens the last time you seen a performance turbo motor last long without having ANY issues I have daily driven the car for 3 years with boost and didn’t have an issue with stock or built block as of yet ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 5:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nitrous-rules/180504/79 "2006-02-28T17:22:59Z")
> [@ssdragon](#): > > thats exactly what im in the process of doing, should have the stage 1 turbo in the car by july you are a moron…wtf is a stage one turbo? go to GM get the book and build if from there. at least GM figures that there are morons like this dude and they have to write an idiot proof manual on how to make power ---
**Author:** ![Quik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/quik/32/5979_2.png) [@Quik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Quik)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 5:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nitrous-rules/180504/80 "2006-02-28T17:27:54Z")
> [@BoostedITR41](#): > > you are a moron…wtf is a stage one turbo? go to GM get the book and build if from there. at least GM figures that there are morons like this dude and they have to write an idiot proof manual on how to make power yep, somewhat of a point i was trying to get across [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nitrous-rules/180504.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nitrous-rules/180504.md?page=5)