# No fair DAMNIT(USDM blows)
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-fair-damnit-usdm-blows/235144
**Category:** Shift518 Automotive
**Created:** [November 26, 2007, 8:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-fair-damnit-usdm-blows/235144 "2007-11-26T08:16:38Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 1
### Author:  [@votblindub](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/votblindub)
#### Post date: [November 26, 2007, 8:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-fair-damnit-usdm-blows/235144/1 "2007-11-26T08:16:38Z")
Why is the USDM so stupid? Even Australia is getting the new Audi S3’s ahead of us. We havent seen 75% of the market that Audi sells to the rest of the world. Whats wrong with this backwards ass place? We dont even have UTE’s here. Closest thing to one was the El Camino, but thats from decades ago. I think ppl in US would totally buy something like this
Now, im not a truck fan, but shit, its a nice looking vehicle(sans the steering wheel, center section on the seats and the headlights).
Heres the article on the Holdens if anyone is interested [http://www.webwombat.com.au/motoring/news\_reports/holden-ve-ute-review.htm](http://www.webwombat.com.au/motoring/news_reports/holden-ve-ute-review.htm)
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### Author:  [@silverandslow](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/silverandslow)
#### Post date: [November 26, 2007, 8:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-fair-damnit-usdm-blows/235144/2 "2007-11-26T08:23:25Z")
its pretty ugly
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### Author:  [@votblindub](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/votblindub)
#### Post date: [November 26, 2007, 8:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-fair-damnit-usdm-blows/235144/3 "2007-11-26T08:46:13Z")
that front looks like a nissan sentra to me, but i think its hellas better than an el camino or the like
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### Author:  [@GranMassaX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GranMassaX)
#### Post date: [November 26, 2007, 8:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-fair-damnit-usdm-blows/235144/4 "2007-11-26T08:48:53Z")
I would never even consider buying that… gross
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### Author:  [@K20power](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/K20power)
#### Post date: [November 26, 2007, 9:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-fair-damnit-usdm-blows/235144/5 "2007-11-26T09:33:44Z")
that thing is so gay, srsly…its basically a european El Camino :nono :wtf
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### Author:  [@jtviggen](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jtviggen)
#### Post date: [November 26, 2007, 10:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-fair-damnit-usdm-blows/235144/6 "2007-11-26T10:06:08Z")
hey gang
well u do see alot of those down here in the south pacific but as ford and they call them falcon’s and they come as p/u’s and sedans
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### Author:  [@votblindub](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/votblindub)
#### Post date: [November 26, 2007, 10:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-fair-damnit-usdm-blows/235144/7 "2007-11-26T10:14:33Z")
you guys look at the motor choices on that? its actually pretty nice
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### Author:  [@91teg](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/91teg)
#### Post date: [November 26, 2007, 10:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-fair-damnit-usdm-blows/235144/8 "2007-11-26T10:18:09Z")
> [@K-20power](#):
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> that thing is so gay, srsly…its basically a european El Camino :nono :wtf
hit the nail on the head
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### Author:  [@GranMassaX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GranMassaX)
#### Post date: [November 26, 2007, 10:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-fair-damnit-usdm-blows/235144/9 "2007-11-26T10:25:43Z")
> [@votblindub](#):
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> you guys look at the motor choices on that? its actually pretty nice
motor choices, performance numbers, HP ratings… doesn’t take away from the fact that it’s ugly.
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### Author:  [@K20power](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/K20power)
#### Post date: [November 26, 2007, 7:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-fair-damnit-usdm-blows/235144/10 "2007-11-26T19:20:46Z")
you know, they did come out with something like this in the US…the Chevy SSR…anyone remember that and how gay it was…hence why they stopped making it
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### Author:  [@Code\_Blue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Code_Blue)
#### Post date: [November 26, 2007, 7:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-fair-damnit-usdm-blows/235144/11 "2007-11-26T19:31:03Z")
the subaru baja is way closer to the el camino than the SSR is
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### Author:  [@91teg](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/91teg)
#### Post date: [November 26, 2007, 7:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-fair-damnit-usdm-blows/235144/12 "2007-11-26T19:45:03Z")
I like the subaru way better they have a much better apeal to them
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### Author:  [@K20power](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/K20power)
#### Post date: [November 27, 2007, 4:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-fair-damnit-usdm-blows/235144/13 "2007-11-27T04:22:24Z")
well the SSR was more of the route theyre going with with this Holden…Sport and somewhat performance, whereas the subaru was more offroad/rugged purpose
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### Author:  [@votblindub](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/votblindub)
#### Post date: [November 27, 2007, 8:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-fair-damnit-usdm-blows/235144/14 "2007-11-27T08:16:51Z")
what about that whole “i dont care what it looks like as long as its light and has a large motor” thing? i thought u racer guys didnt give a crap about looks? i thought v8=good? whered all that go all of a sudden?
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### Author:  [@K20power](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/K20power)
#### Post date: [November 27, 2007, 8:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-fair-damnit-usdm-blows/235144/15 "2007-11-27T08:46:32Z")
It needs to look somewhat presentable
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### Author:  [@GranMassaX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GranMassaX)
#### Post date: [November 27, 2007, 9:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-fair-damnit-usdm-blows/235144/16 "2007-11-27T09:55:49Z")
> [@votblindub](#):
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> what about that whole “i dont care what it looks like as long as its light and has a large motor” thing? i thought u racer guys didnt give a crap about looks? i thought v8=good? whered all that go all of a sudden?
370hp/390ft-lbs @ 4000lbs is not fast or light
if that were true then we would all be driving around in 95 neons with a big block
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### Author:  [@K20power](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/K20power)
#### Post date: [November 28, 2007, 7:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-fair-damnit-usdm-blows/235144/17 "2007-11-28T07:05:36Z")
> [@GranMassaX](#):
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> 370hp/390ft-lbs @ 4000lbs is not fast or light
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> if that were true then we would all be driving around in 95 neons with a big block
:crackup or that big block CRX that someone built :nuts
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### Author:  [@franknut](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/franknut)
#### Post date: [August 7, 2008, 8:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-fair-damnit-usdm-blows/235144/18 "2008-08-07T08:11:18Z")
alfa romeo brera & spider
i would definitely want to get my hands on one of these if i could in the US
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### Author:  [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)
#### Post date: [August 7, 2008, 8:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-fair-damnit-usdm-blows/235144/19 "2008-08-07T08:30:42Z")
There’s a reason they longer make the El Camino…
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### Author:  [@Shady](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shady)
#### Post date: [August 7, 2008, 8:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-fair-damnit-usdm-blows/235144/20 "2008-08-07T08:36:17Z")
> [@franknut](#):
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> alfa romeo brera & spider
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> i would definitely want to get my hands on one of these if i could in the US
+1
and id rock the other one, new age camino ftw!
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