# No More Drinking & Driving For Toyota Owners (UPDATE: Now ALL Makes?) **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [January 6, 2007, 10:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-more-drinking-driving-for-toyota-owners-update-now-all-makes/22642 "2007-01-06T10:26:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![ly555is](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3bc359/32.png) [@ly555is](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ly555is)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2007, 2:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-more-drinking-driving-for-toyota-owners-update-now-all-makes/22642/41 "2007-01-06T14:16:22Z")
> [@boardjnky4](#): > > if u think this is stupid, then you are infact stupid. ah god i just can’t think of some dude saying this and sounding intelligent. you sound like the president ---
**Author:** ![jeeves744](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeeves744/32/7619_2.png) [@jeeves744](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jeeves744)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2007, 2:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-more-drinking-driving-for-toyota-owners-update-now-all-makes/22642/42 "2007-01-06T14:32:46Z")
> [@NA-KING](#): > > A lot of people made valid points about the system though. What if your playing the role of the designated driver and your driving a friend thats blitzed! > > Fuckin car shut’s down? > > Gay! > > Don’t get wrong, I don’t agree with drunk driving. > > I just think if that was the case, it would suck to be the Designated driver! or how much “abnormal steering” it takes for it to turn the car off. Because that could become very dangerous depending on the situation. Such as trying to avoid a deer, or other accident, and then your car turns off. plus i want to know how long the car stays shut down for. ---
**Author:** ![4x4jimmy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/51bf81/32.png) [@4x4jimmy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/4x4jimmy)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2007, 3:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-more-drinking-driving-for-toyota-owners-update-now-all-makes/22642/43 "2007-01-06T15:37:51Z")
worst idea ever. ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2007, 3:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-more-drinking-driving-for-toyota-owners-update-now-all-makes/22642/44 "2007-01-06T15:44:29Z")
They should put this in an option package with Jump to Conclusions floor mats ---
**Author:** ![JEG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeg/32/7246_2.png) [@JEG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JEG)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2007, 5:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-more-drinking-driving-for-toyota-owners-update-now-all-makes/22642/45 "2007-01-06T17:06:47Z")
> [@Onyx Z32](#): > > Actually, GM has that with OnStar. I remember magazines doing tests of cars equipped with OnStar and as they would slalom and test the brakes, an OnStar person would call and say _“Sir are you OK? We detected some unusual driving patterns.”_ > > :lol: lol… I can just imagine the response “I’m fine ocifer, how are yous?” “Sir, Have you been drinking?” “Fuck yeah wooooooooo, this shit is fuuun”" ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2007, 5:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-more-drinking-driving-for-toyota-owners-update-now-all-makes/22642/46 "2007-01-06T17:36:06Z")
anyone who thinks that putting a speed governor on a car, is comparable to stopping drunk drivers is a fucking moron speeding does not kill nearly as many ppl as drunk driving. so according to ur theories we should just let ppl drink and drive and they should take responsibility for their actions?? what if they fucking kill someone guys?? what if they kill one of ur relatives. if i told you that ur parents were killed by drunk drivers, and that the driver lived, but hes going to jail for a few years, would u feel thats justice? i sure as shit wouldnt. now if ur parents go out for a nice night on the town, and dont get struck by a drunk driver because that driver wasnt able to get his car out of the lot. u wouldnt think anything of it, you would never know that maybe some shit could have gone down. all because toyota decided to do something nice for innocent ppl’s safety i understand that how u guys feel, ppl suing over spilt coffee is dumb. ppl SHOULD take responsibility for their actions. but even if they do take responsibility, it doesnt change the fact they may have killed someone. ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2007, 5:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-more-drinking-driving-for-toyota-owners-update-now-all-makes/22642/47 "2007-01-06T17:43:22Z")
Pretty soon (with technology) no one will be able to do anything wrong and the world will be perfect. Right? ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2007, 5:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-more-drinking-driving-for-toyota-owners-update-now-all-makes/22642/48 "2007-01-06T17:52:39Z")
ppl will always find things to do wrong and someone else will always have to try and find a way to stop it ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2007, 5:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-more-drinking-driving-for-toyota-owners-update-now-all-makes/22642/49 "2007-01-06T17:55:48Z")
It will probably only take one more generation before no one cares about privacy or freedom although it seems we are almost there already. The plan is working. ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2007, 5:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-more-drinking-driving-for-toyota-owners-update-now-all-makes/22642/50 "2007-01-06T17:58:35Z")
yeah, freedom is nice. i think everyone wishes that we could have all the freedom in the world sucks that the majority of ppl in the world fuck it up. the amount of ppl in this world that are honest and good-hearted isnt nearly as large as the amount that are ignorant doucshebags. it all gets me so heated ---
**Author:** ![NA-KING](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/na-king/32/7515_2.png) [@NA-KING](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/NA-KING)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2007, 6:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-more-drinking-driving-for-toyota-owners-update-now-all-makes/22642/51 "2007-01-06T18:05:16Z")
> [@jeeves744](#): > > or how much “abnormal steering” it takes for it to turn the car off. Because that could become very dangerous depending on the situation. Such as trying to avoid a deer, or other accident, and then your car turns off. > > plus i want to know how long the car stays shut down for. :word: ---
**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2007, 6:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-more-drinking-driving-for-toyota-owners-update-now-all-makes/22642/52 "2007-01-06T18:19:46Z")
Boardjnky, please stop calling people “fucking morons” until you learn how to type. ---
**Author:** ![LiveRound](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4491bb/32.png) [@LiveRound](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LiveRound)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2007, 6:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-more-drinking-driving-for-toyota-owners-update-now-all-makes/22642/53 "2007-01-06T18:24:36Z")
> [@brent\_strong](#): > > Fuck this. People need to take responsibility for their actions, not have some car manufacturer try to nanny them into making intelligent decisions. If you can’t handle driving sober, you can’t have a license. shut the fuck up… no one is perfect and sometimes ppl make bad choices… it’s part of being human, just cause your fuckin perfect doesnt mean everyone else has to be. I personally think this is a good idea, i lost a friend that ment more to me than anything due to drunk driving… i wish that more car makers do this so that stupid drunks like my friend dont die. Yes drunk driving is stupid, but when your friend is the one that dies and you go everyday wishing you could see them again you’ll apreciat a device like this. Edit… i know i cant spell so fuck you… and im gonna say this again to aviod flaming… DRUNK DRIVING IS THE STUPIDEST THING ANYONE CAN EVER DO… BUT WHEN YOUR AT A FRIENDS FUNERAL LOOKIN AT HIS DEAD LIFELESS BODY BECAUSE HE THOUGHT HE WAS OK TO DRIVE BECAUSE HE WAS A STUPID FUCKING DRUNK YOU’LL APPRECIATE THIS… SAY WHAT YOU WANT … I MISS MY FRIEND AND WOULD GIVE ANYTHING TO GET HIM BACK AND IF THAT MEANS HAVING A CAR MANUFACTURER THINK FOR HIM SO BE IT… ---
**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2007, 6:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-more-drinking-driving-for-toyota-owners-update-now-all-makes/22642/54 "2007-01-06T18:25:58Z")
So you wish car makers would over-ride stupidity? They better stop making cars then, hell just being automotive enthusiasts we’re bound to make more than a few. ---
**Author:** ![Shockwave179](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shockwave179/32/7496_2.png) [@Shockwave179](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shockwave179)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2007, 7:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-more-drinking-driving-for-toyota-owners-update-now-all-makes/22642/55 "2007-01-06T19:13:03Z")
> [@AWDrifter](#): > > Pretty soon (with technology) no one will be able to do anything wrong and the world will be perfect. > Right? Exactly. Kind of reminds me of the book “1984” where every aspect of your life is monitored. I don’t agree with this technology as a car enthusiast even though I’m avidly against drunk driving. I agree with harsher consequences for it, hell you say people will never learn, I bet they’d learn damn quick if the penalty was death or life in prison. [font=Verdana]Also for my own curiosity if you buy a newer car that is on-star capable do you have the option to not use it?[/font] ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2007, 7:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-more-drinking-driving-for-toyota-owners-update-now-all-makes/22642/56 "2007-01-06T19:16:01Z")
yes, you have to activate onstar on your own, you can just not do it, and after the first year if you dont pay for the service then they shut it off. ---
**Author:** ![66impalass](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/66impalass/32/7429_2.png) [@66impalass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/66impalass)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2007, 7:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-more-drinking-driving-for-toyota-owners-update-now-all-makes/22642/57 "2007-01-06T19:21:22Z")
> [@boardjnky4](#): > > anyone who thinks that putting a speed governor on a car, is comparable to stopping drunk drivers is a fucking moron > > speeding does not kill nearly as many ppl as drunk driving. so according to ur theories we should just let ppl drink and drive and they should take responsibility for their actions?? > > what if they fucking kill someone guys?? what if they kill one of ur relatives. > > if i told you that ur parents were killed by drunk drivers, and that the driver lived, but hes going to jail for a few years, would u feel thats justice? i sure as shit wouldnt. > > now if ur parents go out for a nice night on the town, and dont get struck by a drunk driver because that driver wasnt able to get his car out of the lot. u wouldnt think anything of it, you would never know that maybe some shit could have gone down. all because toyota decided to do something nice for innocent ppl’s safety > > i understand that how u guys feel, ppl suing over spilt coffee is dumb. ppl SHOULD take responsibility for their actions. but even if they do take responsibility, it doesnt change the fact they may have killed someone. 41% of deaths in a car is directly attributed towards speeding [http://www.rta.nsw.gov/roadsafety/speedandspeedcameras/index.html](http://www.rta.nsw.gov/roadsafety/speedandspeedcameras/index.html) 39% of deaths in a car is directly attributed towards drunk driving > **[Drunk driving statistics](https://www.alcoholalert.com/drunk-driving-statistics.html)** > > Most recent drunk driving statistics compiled from various sources Your a fucking moron because you do not actually know facts, according to this more lives would be saved by putting speed limiters than by what toyota is doing. ---
**Author:** ![vq30de](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/9dc877/32.png) [@vq30de](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/vq30de)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2007, 7:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-more-drinking-driving-for-toyota-owners-update-now-all-makes/22642/58 "2007-01-06T19:46:49Z")
The intention is great, the method proposed is somewhat lacking though. If it eventually gets worked out so as not to in any way inhibit “normal driving”, I’d be all about it. ---
**Author:** ![Boomin99GT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boomin99gt/32/7306_2.png) [@Boomin99GT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boomin99GT)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2007, 8:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-more-drinking-driving-for-toyota-owners-update-now-all-makes/22642/59 "2007-01-06T20:07:03Z")
Those of you arguing that its a bad idea because you want to make your own decisions, its an impaired decision you’re making that they’re trying to stop. If you decide while completely sober that you’re going to drive drunk tonight and kill someone there’d be a difference. For the most part people that cause accidents while speeding are sober. The argument you’re making is between a sober decision and an impaired decision. You’re saying you want the choice to make an impaired decision. I don’t agree but thats just me. If your friend is so drunk he can barely stand but he decides he wants to get into his car and drive and you’re standing there stone sober are you going to let him? If you say no then you’re contradicting yourself by saying that you want to make your own decisions. Thats what the government and Toyota are trying to do, just may need some refinement on their way of doing it. ---
**Author:** ![MikeRi24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@MikeRi24](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MikeRi24)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2007, 9:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-more-drinking-driving-for-toyota-owners-update-now-all-makes/22642/60 "2007-01-06T21:49:14Z")
i remember when i worked at Stereo Advantage, some guy had a system put in his car, and he had like 5 DWI and somehow the state made him have a Breathalyzer (sp?) installed in his car so that the car wouldn’t start unless u ‘blew’ first. i cant remember the exact details of it though. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-more-drinking-driving-for-toyota-owners-update-now-all-makes/22642.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-more-drinking-driving-for-toyota-owners-update-now-all-makes/22642.md?page=4)